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WW XXI: Christmas Chaos!

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  • #1602
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Derry WW wrote: »
    Do we have any sort of precedent for how many Gifts the Mogwai might expect to acquire over the festive period? Would there typically be a limit to their usefulness, potentially culminating in a chance to earn a Village bonus if they sacrifice themselves midway through the game (which they might opt for if it's clear they're not going to make it past the next set of lynches and munches?)

    Id guess 3.

    The Mogwai appears to me like a rouge shaman like charcater.

    He has to complete taskes to gain his powers on each day


  • #1603
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Jake WW wrote: »
    I would rather take the opportunity to kill Mogwai from the wolves, if indeed Riona is Mogwai.

    If its not Riona, its Angus though.

    It's Holly


  • #1604
    Derry WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,722 ✭✭✭Derry WW


    Holly WW wrote: »

    In a previous christmas, a Q character had a similar role

    And how did that go down?
    'Cause if the rules stated a village goal, and I achieved that goal and was told "you lose" I think I'd go live in the city and leave the villages to the wolves :D


  • #1605
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Riona WW wrote: »
    It's Holly

    Go on, this should be good.....


  • #1606
    Jake WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,202 ✭✭✭Jake WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    Lats not deal in certaintys, its possible yes, not certain that either are thsoe just the most likely at this time perhaps

    Fair point.


  • #1607
    Orla WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Riona WW wrote: »
    Can I point out I am not mogwai! Have no tasks, and am a nrv!

    I'm posting aggressively because it seems people here are swanning about with a funny sherlock holmes hat on and a pipe evaluating ridiculous details when clearly there is nothing to go on.

    It now seems the rules dont mean anything.

    And after being asked to re-read half the thread because I was so confused as to the life status of mogwai, doing that, stating my case of confusion and quoting points I thought were relevant to explain myself - Orla then says "what's your point"

    If I wasnt voting holly i'd be voting orla for pure ignorance!

    I'm not allowed to not understand the point you're trying to make?


  • #1608
    Desmond WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭Desmond WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    It may be harsh but it has happened before, no reason why it couldnt happen again. Its an extreme consequence but a realistic one Im afraid

    I dont imagine that it would be a game ending alteration. I was thinking more so they might get a convert or a peek. To suggest it would be game winning is a bit much


  • #1609
    Isla WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,479 ✭✭✭Isla WW


    I really don't think we know much with regards Mogwai. All the OP really gives us is that he is an entertainer and as far as the mod update it just suggests that he was active.this is all right?


  • #1610
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    Id guess 3.

    The Mogwai appears to me like a rouge shaman like charcater.

    He has to complete taskes to gain his powers on each day

    Holly

    Can you please explain - after all I have outlined, how you think Mogwai is still alive.

    I have quoted the original rules, which state if M is killed a new g is created, I have quoted trit saying "a new g has been created"

    Please - With all your powers of explaing something as if it were to a 3 yr old - Tell me how and why moggy could still be alive.

    I also put this to you jake!


  • #1611
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Derry WW wrote: »
    And how did that go down?
    'Cause if the rules stated a village goal, and I achieved that goal and was told "you lose" I think I'd go live in the city and leave the villages to the wolves :D

    The character was rouge to themselves and playing to win themselves yes,

    The rules stated in that christmas that they character was playing to win themselves for their own gain, not the village


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  • #1612
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Orla WW wrote: »
    I'm not allowed to not understand the point you're trying to make?

    Your just thick then yeah?


  • #1613
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Riona WW wrote: »
    Holly

    Can you please explain - after all I have outlined, how you think Mogwai is still alive.

    I have quoted the original rules, which state if M is killed a new g is created, I have quoted trit saying "a new g has been created"

    Please - With all your powers of explaing something as if it were to a 3 yr old - Tell me how and why moggy could still be alive.

    I also put this to you jake!

    I have no real reason to belive they are dead either way. Im assuming they are still alive.

    yes a convert happened, but I dont know why for sure yet.


  • #1614
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Desmond WW wrote: »
    I dont imagine that it would be a game ending alteration. I was thinking more so they might get a convert or a peek. To suggest it would be game winning is a bit much

    True, I was dealing in an extreme situation, planning for the worst possible scenario.

    But yes I agree, your theory above is more likely


  • #1615
    Jake WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,202 ✭✭✭Jake WW


    The lynch riona/dont thing is actually quite straightforward.

    We lynch her, either we get our prize, or there are dire consequences. Its a dice roll for each person. If you believe the former will happen, vote for her, if you believe the latter will happen, dont.

    If you do not however, you have to account for the wolves possibly doing so in the morning and gaining an advantage. Or them doing it, she isnt the mogwai and they get no advantage.

    We cant know if there is a game ender in play, so everyone decide on Riona based on whether you think there could be or not.

    Id have to err on the side of killing her. Id prefer we ended the game that way (based off a harsh hidden mechanic) rather than just handing it to the wolves through potentially giving them Mogwai.


  • #1616
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    I have no real reason to belive they are dead either way.

    Really? No real reason? At all? Like the reason I just gave you in the post your answering???? Really???


  • #1617
    Orla WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Riona WW wrote: »
    Your just thick then yeah?

    Oh so you're allowed to be stroppy but noone else is

    You keep saying you read this but you clearly haven't so for THE THIRD TIME
    tritium wrote: »

    Mod clarification incoming.....

    Given the OP appears to be causing confusion, and in the interests of fairness, modsanta is clarifying a number of points:

    (I) The op hints that a number of additional gremlins are dotted around the town from the start (2 gremlins total? Pleeaassee...)

    (II) Due to unforseen circumstances Phil has had to be modkilled. We are considering if any rebalance is needed at present and will revert

    (III) Mogwai-mogwai is NOT team village. They count as village only for parity reasons. If the game reaches any end state (parity, bad teams all killed) with Mogwai in play they will win. We realise that, in some unlikely scenarios, that may lead to a slightly harsh outcome, for example perfect village guessing. However we believe this is offset by the considerable difficulty Mogwai faces in completing their role. Note also that Mogwai, as per the op, has been entertaining modsanta (on thread) to gain presents to help them in their mission. Inevitably this makes their role harder.

    This is why we think there is a possibility that Mogwai is still alive, but you know that you're just playing the fool


  • #1618
    Jake WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,202 ✭✭✭Jake WW


    Riona WW wrote: »
    I also put this to you jake!

    I already did Pal.

    See my post at 15.25.


  • #1619
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Riona WW wrote: »
    Really? No real reason? At all? Like the reason I just gave you in the post your answering???? Really???

    Yep, I deal in absolutes when I can. Until I know for sur ethat the Moggi is dead, Ill keep my mind open


  • #1620
    Derry WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,722 ✭✭✭Derry WW


    Isla WW wrote: »
    I really don't think we know much with regards Mogwai. All the OP really gives us is that he is an entertainer and as far as the mod update it just suggests that he was active.this is all right?

    A lot of the focus has been on jokes and gifs. Has anyone modded a game of WW before? What entertains the Mods? Could part of the role be to cast suspicion on a particular person or turn two people against eachother? I know if I were on the outside looking in I would piss myself watching someone who was good at it twist the village back on itself. I mean, obviously you have the wolf team for that anyway but still, entertainment isn't always about giggles.


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  • #1621
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Jake WW wrote: »
    The lynch riona/dont thing is actually quite straightforward.

    Snot really

    We lynch her, either we get our prize, or there are dire consequences. Its a dice roll for each person. If you believe the former will happen, vote for her, if you believe the latter will happen, dont.

    Or im a nrv and nothing happens bar you lose an over aggressive newb who enjoys winding people up and being a general pain

    If you do not however, you have to account for the wolves possibly doing so in the morning and gaining an advantage. Or them doing it, she isnt the mogwai and they get no advantage.

    I have exhausted myself with the mogwai talk and no-one seems to want to listen - So far no-one has given me ANY reason whatsoever that Mog could possibly still be alive

    We cant know if there is a game ender in play, so everyone decide on Riona based on whether you think there could be or not.

    Posting seems to be a hazard in this game

    Id have to err on the side of killing her. Id prefer we ended the game that way (based off a harsh hidden mechanic) rather than just handing it to the wolves through potentially giving them Mogwai.

    You talk too much nonesense, blabber blabber - read into this, read into that. Your as suspect a character as anyone, You may get me lynched, but you are definitely on the dark side. Time will tell - Your a snake!


  • #1622
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Derry WW wrote: »
    A lot of the focus has been on jokes and gifs. Has anyone modded a game of WW before? What entertains the Mods? Could part of the role be to cast suspicion on a particular person or turn two people against eachother? I know if I were on the outside looking in I would piss myself watching someone who was good at it twist the village back on itself. I mean, obviously you have the wolf team for that anyway but still, entertainment isn't always about giggles.

    Chaos..... its the best part for me.


  • #1623
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Riona - Why is everyone suspect?

    Please give reasons....... dont just say people are dodgy, let us know why?


  • #1624
    Orla WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Derry WW wrote: »
    A lot of the focus has been on jokes and gifs. Has anyone modded a game of WW before? What entertains the Mods? Could part of the role be to cast suspicion on a particular person or turn two people against eachother? I know if I were on the outside looking in I would piss myself watching someone who was good at it twist the village back on itself. I mean, obviously you have the wolf team for that anyway but still, entertainment isn't always about giggles.

    TBH I bet modsanta is pissing himself at all this Riona stuff


  • #1625
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Jake WW wrote: »
    Holly i suggested going after Abi earlier as our placeholder decision and you disagreed with me rather firmly. Can you tell us why please?

    Ive had plenty of interactions since then with Holly, please read back.


  • #1626
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Orla WW wrote: »
    TBH I bet modsanta is pissing himself at all this Riona stuff

    Very likely


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  • #1627
    Nigel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    So ive caught up on everything since this morning, tbh out of everyone i find Rionas and Abis posts the most entertaining by a fair distance. Make of that what ya will.

    Focus on low posters is fine and good but i gotta say if there is tasks being done thenit is nore likely somewhere in with the high posters (or whats left)


  • #1628
    Orla WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    Very likely

    either that or he has bad bladder control from all the booze and mince pies


  • #1629
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Riona WW wrote: »
    How can you win the game if your lynched?

    Ah here.....

    I encouarge you to research previous games sugar


  • #1630
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Orla WW wrote: »
    Oh so you're allowed to be stroppy but noone else is

    You keep saying you read this but you clearly haven't so for THE THIRD TIME

    This is why we think there is a possibility that Mogwai is still alive, but you know that you're just playing the fool

    Why on earth would they change the rules halfway through?
    Jake WW wrote: »
    I already did Pal.

    See my post at 15.25.

    So you did. Pal!
    Holly WW wrote: »
    Yep, I deal in absolutes when I can. Until I know for sur ethat the Moggi is dead, Ill keep my mind open

    I deal in black and whites - mods said something would happen when moggy was dead - thing happened - Black and white
    Holly WW wrote: »
    Riona - Why is everyone suspect?

    Please give reasons....... dont just say people are dodgy, let us know why?

    Of course everyone is suspect - its the whole point - just you and jake are terribly unlikable and leading the forums like a pair of aristocratic bad guys who you can just smell the dirt off! I have no real reasoning - But I have a good gut!


  • #1631
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    My gut is telling me not to lynch Riona. I just cant risk it personally.

    She has to be seer checked first IMO.

    Lynch someone else first.


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  • #1632
    Barbara WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭Barbara WW


    Desmond WW wrote: »
    Holly WW wrote: »
    It may be harsh but it has happened before, no reason why it couldnt happen again. Its an extreme consequence but a realistic one Im afraid

    I dont imagine that it would be a game ending alteration. I was thinking more so they might get a convert or a peek. To suggest it would be game winning is a bit much

    If we lynch her and she is converted, we would kniw and what good would a peek be if they are dead?

    What if Riona is beig mind controled today? Not the best player to pick though.


  • #1633
    Jake WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,202 ✭✭✭Jake WW


    Have we not exhausted discussion of Riona. Can we discuss someone else please. I feel we need to have discussed someone else to make an informed decision, and not just vote Abi/Riona owed to not discussing others.


  • #1634
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    I encouarge you to research previous games sugar

    Sugar?

    Really!!


  • #1635
    Jake WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,202 ✭✭✭Jake WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    My gut is telling me not to lynch Riona. I just cant risk it personally.

    She has to be seer checked first IMO.

    Lynch someone else first.

    Potentially leaving Riona to the wolves. If the wolves get her and in that instance if she is Mogwai and we see a gremlin activated - you are in trouble, i think.


  • #1636
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    My gut is telling me not to lynch Riona. I just cant risk it personally.

    She has to be seer checked first IMO.

    Lynch someone else first.

    Im still voting for you!


  • #1637
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Riona WW wrote: »

    I deal in black and whites - mods said something would happen when moggy was dead - thing happened - Black and white

    You need to re read things
    Of course everyone is suspect - its the whole point - just you and jake are terribly unlikable and leading the forums like a pair of aristocratic bad guys who you can just smell the dirt off! I have no real reasoning - But I have a good gut!

    No reasoning, so your gut is feeling comes from what exactly?

    If I was a teacher Id be marking you "MUST TRY HARDER"


  • #1638
    Orla WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Riona WW wrote: »
    Why on earth would they change the rules halfway through?

    1. Cos they can
    2. Cos they want to
    3. maybe it's not an actual rule change at all, but it was a mechanic in place from the very beginning on a need to know basis, and sadly we're not on the list of people who need to know


  • #1639
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Barbara WW wrote: »
    If we lynch her and she is converted, we would kniw and what good would a peek be if they are dead?

    What if Riona is beig mind controled today? Not the best player to pick though.

    Firstly about my peek suggestion, I forgot if she was moggi should might reveal good on peak as per the OP which states the moggi is team village for partity reasons. So maybe not good idea.

    Its possible but Riona has been eratic since day yesterday, mind control wouldnt last longer than a day IMO


  • #1640
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Holly WW wrote: »

    No reasoning, so your gut is feeling comes from what exactly?

    My gut is feeling??

    My gut feeling comes from my gut generally!
    Holly WW wrote: »
    If I was a teacher Id be marking you "MUST TRY HARDER"

    Thats great


  • #1641
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    Firstly about my peek suggestion, I forgot if she was moggi should might reveal good on peak as per the OP which states the moggi is team village for partity reasons. So maybe not good idea.

    Its possible but Riona has been eratic since day yesterday, mind control wouldnt last longer than a day IMO

    Also how have I been erratic exactly??


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  • #1642
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Jake WW wrote: »
    Potentially leaving Riona to the wolves. If the wolves get her and in that instance if she is Mogwai and we see a gremlin activated - you are in trouble, i think.

    Good point, feck its a tough call isnt it.

    What if Riona isnt the moggi but a separate character trying to be lynched.


  • #1643
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Riona WW wrote: »
    Also how have I been erratic exactly??

    You are priceless!


  • #1644
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Riona WW wrote: »
    My gut is feeling??

    My gut feeling comes from my gut generally!



    Thats great

    What lead you to beleive Im bad.

    I think Jake may be bad for example, i say its my gut based on the things he sposted.

    What have I posted that lead your gut to me? The fact Im smelling a rat every time you post?


  • #1645
    Jake WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,202 ✭✭✭Jake WW


    If you stand back from the insults and stuff, Riona is top quality entertainment.


  • #1646
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    You are priceless!

    Genuine question - your always asking me to explain everything - Being aggressive and having a pop is not erratic!


  • #1647
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    What lead you to beleive Im bad.

    I think Jake may be bad for example, i say its my gut based on the things he sposted.

    What have I posted that lead your gut to me? The fact Im smelling a rat every time you post?

    Thats exactly it - your a rat - a sneaky squeaky little smelly rat - Thats the vibe!! Thats where the gut feeling comes from - Your just Greasy!!


  • #1648
    Angus WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,760 ✭✭✭Angus WW


    Barbara WW wrote: »
    Gonna post my ffa early as I might not have much time in the evening.

    #FFA3

    Riona - same as yesterday and nonsense today
    Doris - Still have a feeling she is SK from day0
    Abi - Posted nothing of substance.

    Voting now, placeholder Riona.

    Im pretty much, word for word, in the exact same situation in terms of FFAs.
    Jake WW wrote: »
    The lynch riona/dont thing is actually quite straightforward.

    We lynch her, either we get our prize, or there are dire consequences. Its a dice roll for each person. If you believe the former will happen, vote for her, if you believe the latter will happen, dont.

    If you do not however, you have to account for the wolves possibly doing so in the morning and gaining an advantage. Or them doing it, she isnt the mogwai and they get no advantage.

    We cant know if there is a game ender in play, so everyone decide on Riona based on whether you think there could be or not.

    Id have to err on the side of killing her. Id prefer we ended the game that way (based off a harsh hidden mechanic) rather than just handing it to the wolves through potentially giving them Mogwai.

    Despite your accusations about me all day, your logic is spot on, and why I'm voting for Riona tonight. Without anything more serious to hold againsts someone, it's the only play I see right. Ow.


  • #1649
    Isla WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,479 ✭✭✭Isla WW


    I do wonder if insulting people is a task the more it happens. Would that be something a Mogwai might have to do? not exactly festive.


  • #1650
    Orla WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Isla WW wrote: »
    I do wonder if insulting people is a task the more it happens. Would that be something a Mogwai might have to do? not exactly festive.

    I know, it's a bit mean for a task, I'd prefer if it was something like bake cookies for all your WW chums


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  • #1651
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Isla WW wrote: »
    I do wonder if insulting people is a task the more it happens. Would that be something a Mogwai might have to do? not exactly festive.

    Im genuinely just insulting people because I have a new anon account and according to the rules can get away with it -Apparently im out tonight so I shall be making the most of it over the course of the evening!


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