Living in Dublin on Minimum Wage ???

SuperSean11

GypsyByName wrote: »

Do you just come on here to POO-POO peoples suggestions?

They can’t just be thrown out even if it’s sold the new landlord would have to honor the lease

737max

If I had done it for my friend they would have been in a better position now. I'm doing the OP a favour. The rest of you are leading them down a merry path.
I started out on a wage before minimum wage and it was a slog but it looks so much harder now than it was even then. I was on a cheap secondhand motorbike in house shares but the outlook now is so much worse.

I point out a house that is clearly being lined up for sale because I found myself in a house that was lined up for sale.
I didn't even mention that the other house is owner occupied and they'll be confined to their 6x6 room.

My advice is that if the OP can get some financial help and the job has got tangible "great" prospects or helps to flesh out a CV then go for it otherwise skip.

737max

SuperSean11 wrote: »

They can’t just be thrown out even if it’s sold the new landlord would have to honor the lease

They'll have no lease. They'll be told they are licensees. They are looking for naive lodgers here, not people au fait with their rights.

GypsyByName

737max wrote: »

If I had done it for my friend they would have been in a better position now. I'm doing the OP a favour. The rest of you are leading them down a merry path.
I started out on a wage before minimum wage and it was a slog but it looks so much harder now than it was even then. I was on a cheap secondhand motorbike in house shares but the outlook now is so much worse.

I point out a house that is clearly being lined up for sale because I found myself in a house that was lined up for sale.
I didn't even mention that the other house is owner occupied and they'll be confined to their 6x6 room.

My advice is that if the OP can get some financial help and the job has got tangible "great" prospects or helps to flesh out a CV then go for it otherwise skip.

OK, I will bow out of this now. All I did was point out there are much cheaper places to rent than originally suggested by the OP.

mariaalice

It is doable but very tight money wise as well as rent they will have pay bills and get a weekly commute ticket, feed themselves at the very minimum. If they did not need to buy much clothes or socialise much they will be grand.

SuperSean11

737max wrote: »

They'll have no lease. They'll be told they are licensees. They are looking for naive lodgers here, not people au fait with their rights.

Thats why I would suggest they sign a lease

woodsc3

I'm studying in Dublin and working about 27 hours a week at minimum wage. You can definitely live just fine as long as you find an apartment you can share. I'm living in Smithfield and walk to work/college in Dublin 2 so I have no travel expenses. It's not extremely easy but it definitely is not difficult to live Dublin on minimum wage, especially if you can work 40 hours a week
***edit***
You probably would not be able to save very much at minimum wage anywhere in the city, I live month to month essentially

MayoSalmon

737max wrote:

That is my idea of hell. It speaks volumes that people think that when you are living in an expensive apartment in a run down part of the inner city of a paroachial town that you have "arrived".

Ah yes real run down with a LUAS, convention center, Irish Rail station, reems of global multinationals among other things in that god awful kip!

737max

3 year contract.
what is a contract?
I can see it from their side. It guarantees a source of labour for 3 years at minimum wage levels with a signed contract that will hopefully excuse their obligations to their full time employee at the end of the three years.
What does it offer the employee? minimum wage which is what every other job is offering and a vague promise of relevant work experience but the catch is that they are tied working at minimum wage for three years with no reference forthcoming if they breach the contract.
This contract is offered at a time of near full employment in Ireland.

At the very least I would recommend that the OP look at Glassdoor and see if there is any positive feedback about their prospective employer. I held my tongue when my friend took their position despite seeing what Glasdoor reviews had to say about the company all because I didn't want to be seen as Mr Negativity.

737max

MayoSalmon wrote: »

Ah yes real run down with a LUAS, convention center, Irish Rail station, reems of global multinationals among other things in that god awful kip!

Wouldn't swap it for where I am.

MayoSalmon

737max wrote:

Wouldn't swap it for where I am.

Nobody asked you to and good luck to ya

J Mysterio

EggShellSkull wrote: »

Yes, the prospects are very good and this is a position I want. However, the initial salary is quite low in comparison to potential future earnings. My main concern is handing over a huge percentage of my monthly salary for rent and not being able to get by adequately on what's left over.

My net income after tax would be €1,500 per month, but looking at rental options I could end up being left with somewhere in the region of €180 per week (if rent is €750 per month). Could I actually get by on this?

Basically, no. Rent will be around €1k p/m most places. That leaves you with €500 p/m or €120 a week which is less than the dole at €188. You will have bills, food to buy, nights out, clothing needs etc.

737max

MayoSalmon wrote: »

Nobody asked you to and good luck to ya

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought the sole purpose of your post was to convince me that it's a great place.

Alkers

You should get back to the employer and explain that while the position sounds great etc and you'd love to accept their offer, that you genuinely don't think you could afford to make ends meet and see if they can make you a better offer.

I took up a position for the same money in June 13, my money has since doubled but I managed at the time. Shared accommodation is the only way of doing it.

737max

3 year contract is unreasonable.
minimum wage is unreasonable in a country with full employment. I'm assuming the position requires certain skills and qualifications otherwise they would have filled it with Joe Bloggs who was sent to them from the FAS Office around the corner.

dudara

SuperSean11 wrote: »

Thats why I would suggest they sign a lease

If they are sharing with the owner, then they’ll still be a licensee. A lease won’t really matter.

positron

Curious to know what job is this that requires a three year contract offering 20k. Sounds bad, unless you stand to benefit from on job training, I am thinking like airlines recruiting folks to train up as pilots etc (I know that doesn't happen anymore, but as an example). Otherwise it sounds wrong, especially the three year contract part.

brick tamland

Not going to get details of houses and jobs like others but.......Yep it's do-able.

Might not be a whole lot of craic but you should get by. Get a cheapish house share. Bring your on lunch to work. Stick with public transport ect. If it's a job you really want to go for. Give it a bash.

gctest50

737max wrote: »

That is my idea of hell. It speaks volumes that people think that when you are living in an expensive apartment in a run down part of the inner city of a paroachial town that you have "arrived".

For sure - the whole thing is upside-down

Costs about €100,000 per year to keep a prisoner in Mountjoy

You could release most of them and pay them €100,000 to stay out of any trouble

If they offend, they get sent here :

- at a call centre desk, listening to kids whine about their internet all day

Then just give the cells a bit of a refurb and rent them out at 500/mo


Rooms @ The Mount

GerardKeating

SuperSean11 wrote: »

They can’t just be thrown out even if it’s sold the new landlord would have to honor the lease

Not if they are renting a room, with the landlord living in the place.

J Mysterio

brick tamland wrote: »

Not going to get details of houses and jobs like others but.......Yep it's do-able.

Might not be a whole lot of craic but you should get by. Get a cheapish house share. Bring your on lunch to work. Stick with public transport ect. If it's a job you really want to go for. Give it a bash.

Like looking for a needle in a haystack in Dublin.

tayto lover

20K a year even for an apprentice is slave labour with the cost of living in this country.

J Mysterio

Starting salary for a graduate should be about 24k

Wanderer78

I certainly wouldn't like to be trying it, best of luck op

SuperSean11

GerardKeating wrote: »

Not if they are renting a room, with the landlord living in the place.

I had a lease with the landlord living there ??

Dr Brown

737max wrote: »

3 year contract is unreasonable.
minimum wage is unreasonable in a country with full employment. I'm assuming the position requires certain skills and qualifications otherwise they would have filled it with Joe Bloggs who was sent to them from the FAS Office around the corner.

There is no "full employment" thats just government propaganda.

Choc Chip

I could be totally off here, but accountancy training contracts are 3 years. If that's what you're doing OP, suck it up for the first year and I assume money will get better. Speak to someone in their second or third year at the same firm and see whether you can expect a yearly rise. It's doable if you find reasonable shared accommodation.

If it's not a job where you're getting ongoing training towards a qualification, I'd look elsewhere. It doesn't seem worth it unless you're getting something (exam support/study leave/work experience) towards a better position.

MayoSalmon

J Mysterio wrote: »

Starting salary for a graduate should be about 24k

Starting salary should be whatever the market conditions dictate it should be for that particular job type

737max

Dr Brown wrote: »

There is no "full employment" thats just government propaganda.

There is full employment for people with in demand skills hence inward immigration. It might not be built on sound fundamentals but at the moment the labour market is tight.

Dr Brown

737max wrote: »

There is full employment for people with in demand skills hence inward immigration. It might not be built on sound fundamentals but at the moment the labour market is tight.

As long as we are a "rich" country we will have immigration regardless of the employment situation.