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dulux99

D'Agger wrote: »

Good, I fúcking hate Cowboy

Why?

D'Agger

dulux99 wrote: »

Why?

Multiple things really - I think the man is about as fake as it gets, I didn't mind him before but his last stint on Rogan where he was discussing how he almost died scuba diving, he essentially put the blame on another person, despite him breaking diving rules and turning back to try help this guy. Then it's that guys fault Cowboy got into difficulty, which makes me think this guy doesn't accept responsibility for his own shortcomings and the only thing bigger than his Budweiser sponsored ranch is his ego. In general any time he's been on Rogan I've ended up disliking his character more and more, he makes stupid comments trying to be cool like 'If I wasn't in the UFC I'd be that guy in a bar hitting on your girl'

Then there's the fight side of things where he's bottled most big fights that he's gotten and is still there calling out McGregor after beating Mike Perry who isn't even in the top 10 WW, despite being a fairly well regarded fighter. If you look at his record, he's beaten average guys and has pretty much never won against top level opposition.

Fair play to him on being a gamey fighter, and I get that he's a fan favourite, I just struggle to see what all the fuss is about when it comes to him.

xtal191

I couldn't agree more about Cerrone, cant stand him

dulux99

D'Agger wrote: »

Multiple things really - I think the man is about as fake as it gets, I didn't mind him before but his last stint on Rogan where he was discussing how he almost died scuba diving, he essentially put the blame on another person, despite him breaking diving rules and turning back to try help this guy. Then it's that guys fault Cowboy got into difficulty, which makes me think this guy doesn't accept responsibility for his own shortcomings and the only thing bigger than his Budweiser sponsored ranch is his ego. In general any time he's been on Rogan I've ended up disliking his character more and more, he makes stupid comments trying to be cool like 'If I wasn't in the UFC I'd be that guy in a bar hitting on your girl'

Then there's the fight side of things where he's bottled most big fights that he's gotten and is still there calling out McGregor after beating Mike Perry who isn't even in the top 10 WW, despite being a fairly well regarded fighter. If you look at his record, he's beaten average guys and has pretty much never won against top level opposition.

Fair play to him on being a gamey fighter, and I get that he's a fan favourite, I just struggle to see what all the fuss is about when it comes to him.

Fair enough. Atleast you have your reasons!

Autecher

:rolleyes::rolleyes:
https://twitter.com/dimspace/status/1071523739660115968?s=21

EagererBeaver

He's not even a real cowboy ffs.

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mailburner

dulux99 wrote: »

Cerrone vs Hernandez in January. No McGregor fight next for Cowboy

Very excited about Alex hernandez and been wondering for ages who his next victim will be
Now I know ðŸ˜. There'll be a few quid of mine going on him

mailburner

D'Agger wrote: »

Multiple things really - I think the man is about as fake as it gets, I didn't mind him before but his last stint on Rogan where he was discussing how he almost died scuba diving, he essentially put the blame on another person, despite him breaking diving rules and turning back to try help this guy. Then it's that guys fault Cowboy got into difficulty, which makes me think this guy doesn't accept responsibility for his own shortcomings and the only thing bigger than his Budweiser sponsored ranch is his ego. In general any time he's been on Rogan I've ended up disliking his character more and more, he makes stupid comments trying to be cool like 'If I wasn't in the UFC I'd be that guy in a bar hitting on your girl'

Then there's the fight side of things where he's bottled most big fights that he's gotten and is still there calling out McGregor after beating Mike Perry who isn't even in the top 10 WW, despite being a fairly well regarded fighter. If you look at his record, he's beaten average guys and has pretty much never won against top level opposition.

Fair play to him on being a gamey fighter, and I get that he's a fan favourite, I just struggle to see what all the fuss is about when it comes to him.

Agree with you but I actually thought he had a chance of getting the Conor fight for the simple reason of Conor thinking it would be a handy fight and it would be imo.

He's painful to listen to but I love watching him fight.

ASOT

Just watching Jones commission hearing, there after suggesting that he signs up to VADA testing, looked like he was caught on the hop had to take a few minutes to talk to his council.

ASOT

ASOT wrote: »

Just watching Jones commission hearing, there after suggesting that he signs up to VADA testing, looked like he was caught on the hop had to take a few minutes to talk to his council.

So he's agreed to it in principle once his people "look over the programme".

ASOT

Temporary license granted so the fights on anyway.

Autecher

Dominick Cruz injured again and is out of the Lineker fight.

dulux99

cliggg wrote: »

Dominick Cruz injured again and is out of the Lineker fight.

233 really looking like it could be cancelled altogether. Wouldn't be the first time they cancelled a card in Anaheim!

Useful.Idiot

Poor Dom will never make it to a fight

ASOT

cliggg wrote: »

:rolleyes::rolleyes:
https://twitter.com/dimspace/status/1071523739660115968?s=21

Just a technical glitch nothing to see here :pac:

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/12/11/18136964/usada-says-technical-issue-caused-online-brock-lesnar-drug-test-number-discrepancy

ASOT

Bisping on JRE is very interesting.

His eye is still ****ed the poor fella. Hopefully he never fights again even if he can get cleared because it's a ticking time bomb according to the doctors. Clinically blind in the eye, but still within limits to be licensed apparently.

Autecher

ASOT wrote: »

Bisping on JRE is very interesting.

His eye is still ****ed the poor fella. Hopefully he never fights again even if he can get cleared because it's a ticking time bomb according to the doctors. Clinically blind in the eye, but still within limits to be licensed apparently.

I understand why he did it but he did himself no favours health-wise taking that Gastelum fight. He will soon be commentating on UFC events though so at least they have kept him employed with that and punditry.

ASOT

cliggg wrote: »

I understand why he did it but he did himself no favours health-wise taking that Gastelum fight. He will soon be commentating on UFC events though so at least they have kept him employed with that and punditry.

100%, the fact he now has a prosthetic in his eye is mental.

Hopefully that's him done now anyway , keep up the fox work etc he's a great analyst.

xckjoo

ASOT wrote: »

Bisping on JRE is very interesting.

His eye is still ****ed the poor fella. Hopefully he never fights again even if he can get cleared because it's a ticking time bomb according to the doctors. Clinically blind in the eye, but still within limits to be licensed apparently.

Didn't that happen to Rocky after his first fight with Apollo Creed? Didn't stop him becoming heavyweight champ either

dulux99

cliggg wrote: »

I understand why he did it but he did himself no favours health-wise taking that Gastelum fight. He will soon be commentating on UFC events though so at least they have kept him employed with that and punditry.

I still remember watching that fight and couldn't believe what I was seeing as Bisping was walking out. He was all smiles, strolling, giving the thumbs up to the camera. Very different from his usual intense aura. At that point I think everyone knew he was f*cked and was not right mentally for it.

A lot of soundbites from that Kavanagh interview are being picked up in the MMA media and wider media. Even Chael has a video about the potential strained relationship between McGregor and Kavanagh.

Obviously a lot of the headlines are being taken out of context (deliberately) but will still be interesting to see how this plays out.

I think it was a very good interview by Kimmage, most MMA media goes very easy on fighters and coaches because MMA is all they report on and getting shut out of even one camp has huge repercussions on their reporting. Kimmage doesn't care and asked some tough but fair questions. Kavanagh to his credit gave the kind of answers that he should have given years ago.

dulux99

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A lot of soundbites from that Kavanagh interview are being picked up in the MMA media and wider media. Even Chael has a video about the potential strained relationship between McGregor and Kavanagh.

Obviously a lot of the headlines are being taken out of context (deliberately) but will still be interesting to see how this plays out.

I think it was a very good interview by Kimmage, most MMA media goes very easy on fighters and coaches because MMA is all they report on and getting shut out of even one camp has huge repercussions on their reporting. Kimmage doesn't care and asked some tough but fair questions. Kavanagh to his credit gave the kind of answers that he should have given years ago.

Kimmage is the best. The biggest cynic in Ireland but he makes for a great journalist because of it.

Johns not trying to hide the strained relationship and neither is McGregor really with all his sbg Naas pics. I doubt CMG appreciated the little media tour John went on just after the fight.

VW 1

Possibly not the correct place, but has there been any clarification on where the rights for UFC are going once BT loses them in the new year? I know eleven sports were holding the rights, but has it been announced whether they will be doing a deal with one of the TV companies?

I'm in the process of (probably) leaving Sky due to a 30% increase in price of 3 years and going to Virgin, but the lack of BT there for football annoys me, and if Sky were to be able to show UFC it might sway me.

EagererBeaver

Eleven has the rights.

They are talking about working with the TV providers to get onto the platforms but nothing confirmed yet.

xckjoo

Deleted User wrote: »

A lot of soundbites from that Kavanagh interview are being picked up in the MMA media and wider media. Even Chael has a video about the potential strained relationship between McGregor and Kavanagh.

Obviously a lot of the headlines are being taken out of context (deliberately) but will still be interesting to see how this plays out.

I think it was a very good interview by Kimmage, most MMA media goes very easy on fighters and coaches because MMA is all they report on and getting shut out of even one camp has huge repercussions on their reporting. Kimmage doesn't care and asked some tough but fair questions. Kavanagh to his credit gave the kind of answers that he should have given years ago.

What interview is this? Might be missing it but can't see the source in the last few pages. I like me some Kimmage.

xckjoo

xckjoo wrote: »

What interview is this? Might be missing it but can't see the source in the last few pages. I like me some Kimmage.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/mma/paul-kimmage-meets-renowned-mma-coach-john-kavanagh-who-gives-a-passionate-defence-of-his-sport-and-most-notorious-pupil-37607552.html

fermanagh_man

Looks like UFC is staying with BT Sports

Can confirm that the UFC is staying on BT from 2019 onward. The UFC triggered an exit clause in their contract with @ElevenSports_UK as they have not agreed a carriage deal with any operators. They had to have at least one deal by the beginning of December, and they don't.