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AlmightyCushion

monty_python wrote: »

What do people think of Tony/gaethje for the belt?
Will Dana go for it? Surely he must be pissed with khabib and he could punish him that way

Another Interim belt. You can never have too many of them. Would Tony be the first person to win 2 interim belts? The interim champ champ.

Tazzimus

monty_python wrote: »

Seriously??

Messing up Dana's 5 attempt of making the khaby/Tony fight
Im not saying he should be punished, I'm asking will dana look at it that way and strip him

Yes seriously. The world is in the middle of a pandemic, which is a bit more important than a fight that can be postponed..

monty_python

Tazzimus wrote: »

Yes seriously. The world is in the middle of a pandemic, which is a bit more important than a fight that can be postponed..

Dana isn't looking at it that way, hence my question

Tazzimus

monty_python wrote: »

Dana isn't looking at it that way, hence my question

I don't think even Dana could blame Khabib for this one.
Neither him or Tony are to blame, this one is just down to organise a fight in the middle of all the **** that's going on now.

Beersmith

Its just beyond stupid they didn't cancel it outright a a week ago anyway.

EagererBeaver

Beersmith wrote: »

Its just beyond stupid they didn't cancel it outright a a week ago anyway.

MMA gonna MMA though, innit. So many cretins involved in the de facto administration of the sport.

Mehaffey1

EagererBeaver wrote: »

MMA gonna MMA though, innit. So many cretins involved in the de facto administration of the sport.

I'll never get over my disbelief that they changed the venue on for UFC 232 after Jones couldn't get licensed after testing hot. I was near screaming it's Christmas, it's six days notice, the fighter's are going to be up in arms!

They did it anyway!!!

ricero

Listen and respect the goat

https://twitter.com/espnmma/status/1245856849611669505

eagle eye

ricero wrote:

Listen and respect the goat

You linked the wrong thing. That's not Jon Jones or Amanda Nunes.

Tazzimus

eagle eye wrote: »

You linked the wrong thing. That's not Jon Jones or Amanda Nunes.

You spelled Lord Artem wrong.

US2

Even if he stayed active after his illness, how do you think hed rank today? Cant see any current heavyweight beating him to be honest?

Could and would have been the best heavy of all time if he stayed at it in my opinion

https://twitter.com/MMAHistoryToday/status/1246563909324222464?s=19

Mellor

US2 wrote: »

Even if he stayed active after his illness, how do you think hed rank today? Cant see any current heavyweight beating him to be honest?

His striking was terrible and he couldn’t take a punch. Any lost to every striker he faced. He lost to any top striker HW today.

If he went straight to MME instead of WWE he might has learnt to strike, we’ll never know.

The Floyd p

Mellor wrote: »

His striking was terrible and he couldn’t take a punch. Any lost to every striker he faced. He lost to any top striker HW today.

If he went straight to MME instead of WWE he might has learnt to strike, we’ll never know.

Wasn't there talk that when he was working in Team Deathclutch that he wouldn't allow strikes to the face, and you could see when Carwin and later Cain hit him that he just couldn't take a punch? Madness!

He was a great athlete but I don't think he'd have the determination to refine his skills to the level needed to be a dominant champion. Ego got in the way.

US2

Didnt he completely dominate one of the heaviest hitters in his last fight? Dont think Stipe or DC can beat him

PyreOfHellfire

US2 wrote: »

Didnt he completely dominate one of the heaviest hitters in his last fight? Dont think Stipe or DC can beat him

Both would beat him handily.

Mellor

US2 wrote: »

Didnt he completely dominate one of the heaviest hitters in his last fight? Dont think Stipe or DC can beat him

Hunt was in his 40’s. And was never described as having any sort of grappling game.

Lesnar matches well with HW who can’t grapple at all, or smaller HW grapplers that have bad striking (like Mir). Nether of those types of fighters will be top tier in this day and age.

MidlanderMan

US2 wrote: »

Didnt he completely dominate one of the heaviest hitters in his last fight? Dont think Stipe or DC can beat him

He lay on top of him and did nothing for the duration of the fight. It was a throw back to the most boring of early 90s wrestlers doing a wet blanket impersonation in early UFC events. Any other fighter would have been stood up repeatedly.

DrPhilG

I thoroughly enjoyed Brock, and was lucky enough to be at 2 of his UFC fights. Both were electric.

If he had gone straight to MMA after high school, and had good coaches, then yes his wrestling ability and brute size could have made him one of the best.

But the Brock that we got, late in the game, was fortunate to arrive at a time when the division was shallow and old. The era of Cain, JDS, Overeem etc arrived and Brock's limitations were suddenly very apparent.

I still enjoyed him though!

EagererBeaver

US2 wrote: »

Didnt he completely dominate one of the heaviest hitters in his last fight? Dont think Stipe or DC can beat him

They would both demolish him. MMA is light years past what it was when was the top dog.

He was also juiced to the gills his entire career don't forget.

An incredible natural athlete though.

EagererBeaver

Also, we now know why Dana is so keen to be reckless with the health of Khabib, Tony and many others involved in the production of a UFC event. He's the victim of a sex tape extortion case!

https://www.reviewjournal.com/investigations/ufcs-dana-white-named-as-extortion-victim-in-sex-tape-case-1999477/

Zero-Cool

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Also, we now know why Dana is so keen to be reckless with the health of Khabib, Tony and many others involved in the production of a UFC event. He's the victim of a sex tape extortion case!

https://www.reviewjournal.com/investigations/ufcs-dana-white-named-as-extortion-victim-in-sex-tape-case-1999477/

Who the **** would want to watch that. Ah, the better question, who was it with?

EagererBeaver

I guess it was so his wife wouldn't find out. Then again, there's an absolute army of fanboys out there who would probably love to see it.

Sofiztikated

You lads are acting like it's the first time we saw Dana **** someone over.

Tazzimus

US2 wrote: »

Even if he stayed active after his illness, how do you think hed rank today? Cant see any current heavyweight beating him to be honest?

Could and would have been the best heavy of all time if he stayed at it in my opinion

https://twitter.com/MMAHistoryToday/status/1246563909324222464?s=19

Several of today's heavyweights would murder him

mrm

Tazzimus wrote: »

Several of today's heavyweights would murder him

Of course several would murder him, totally unfair fightðŸ˜. Knocking Heath Herring across the octagon looked impressive but he was not top tier ready, especially when that consisted of Cain and JDS. Still gotta admire him as there were so many easier ways available to him to make money or spend your time.

mailburner

US2 wrote: »

Didnt he completely dominate one of the heaviest hitters in his last fight? Dont think Stipe or DC can beat him

mmm not sure if serious

weemcd

Lesnar was a freak. But he's the epitome of the bully fighter. He didn't deal well with pressure or being hit.

Cain, JDS, DC, Stipe etc all have him for breakfast.

Also, massive question marks around PED's.

eagle eye

weemcd wrote:

Also, massive question marks around PED's.

This applies to nearly every elite professional athlete.

weemcd

eagle eye wrote: »

This applies to nearly every elite professional athlete.

True. Very true.

Mehaffey1

UFC running 25 Greatest Fights of All Time on the FightPass24/7 section, makes for good watching especially the odd one or two I haven't seen and in the absence of new events.