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Whelo79 · 19-07-2020 5:55pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Does anyone know much about rhys mckee? How do people think he'll do in the UFC?

I've followed Rhys for a good while now, he's an excellent fighter. Very capable with his boxing and good on the ground. He was always going to get to the UFC.

This will be a very tough debut for him though. 6 days notice, coming out of lockdown, and against a lad who looked excellent a few days ago. Not ideal circumstances at all.

19-07-2020 7:27pm

Whelo79 wrote: »

I've followed Rhys for a good while now, he's an excellent fighter. Very capable with his boxing and good on the ground. He was always going to get to the UFC.

This will be a very tough debut for him though. 6 days notice, coming out of lockdown, and against a lad who looked excellent a few days ago. Not ideal circumstances at all.

If he does lose this short notice fight, hopefully the UFC will be thankful to him for taking this fight on short notice and give him another fight with a full training camp.

ASOT · 19-07-2020 7:40pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If he does lose this short notice fight, hopefully the UFC will be thankful to him for taking this fight on short notice and give him another fight with a full training camp.

He signed a 4 fight deal!

I'm chuffed for him, I know a couple of his friends and have met him before. he's a gent.

Beersmith · 19-07-2020 9:13pm

ASOT wrote: »

He signed a 4 fight deal!

I'm chuffed for him, I know a couple of his friends and have met him before. he's a gent.

4 fight deal means nothing. If he loses they can cut him. If he wins they have him locked into a low pay (probably) contract. Having said that you would think they will give him a 2nd fight but 2 losses and they will just cut the contract. Harsh world.

ASOT · 19-07-2020 9:21pm

Beersmith wrote: »

4 fight deal means nothing. If he loses they can cut him. If he wins they have him locked into a low pay (probably) contract. Having said that you would think they will give him a 2nd fight but 2 losses and they will just cut the contract. Harsh world.

Ah I know I'm just saying it how it is, alot of last minute fighters sign one fight deals. This is a 4 fight deal that he was going to get regardless of the late notice.

Beersmith · 19-07-2020 10:12pm

Mckee only just gone up to WW and his opponent just after winning at MW is a very tough ask!

ASOT · 19-07-2020 10:21pm

Yep stacked against him, hope he puts on a good show but I'd be backing against him if I was putting money on it.

D.Q · 20-07-2020 12:03am

Whelo79 wrote: »

That was brilliant!

I'd love to know what was happening at the airport were Bisping was going nuts!

He spoke about it on the podcast, I think one of the staff had taken his suitcase or something. He was saying it was chaos when they first got there in terms of organisation. People obviously very tired too.

Mellor · 20-07-2020 2:04am

Whelo79 wrote: »

I've followed Rhys for a good while now, he's an excellent fighter. Very capable with his boxing and good on the ground. He was always going to get to the UFC.

This will be a very tough debut for him though. 6 days notice, coming out of lockdown, and against a lad who looked excellent a few days ago. Not ideal circumstances at all.

I seen on IG he's looked to be wearing a purple belt. Assume his jiu jitsu is decent.
How is his wrestling though?

ASOT wrote: »

Ah I know I'm just saying it how it is, alot of last minute fighters sign one fight deals. This is a 4 fight deal that he was going to get regardless of the late notice. .

I think the 1 fight deal is only for last minute replacements. Say a fight in Europe, someone gets injured and a local teammate steps in.

This is short notice, but it's not replacement AFAIK. So fair enough to assume they had they eye on him and this is just happens to be short notice. He should get at least a follow up fight.

DrPhilG · 20-07-2020 7:53am

Yeah it was the same with Paul Redmond. He fought Bektic on a week's notice and lost but still got a second chance with a full camp against Whiteford.

Pulling the UFC out at short notice will more often than not earn you a second fight regardless.

Lose the second fight though and you're out on your ear.

yourdeadwright · 20-07-2020 10:03am

I think McKee will be taken to the ground and stopped,
Good fighter but I think he will struggle in this one but whish him the best and hope he wins

ricero · 20-07-2020 2:50pm

Mckee will be mauled and out of there within one or two rounds.

The Wolf looks the real deal. He is like a taller and bigger version of the goat Khabib. He looked amazing at middleweight and I heard his natural weight is at Welterweight.

Its a fantastic fight card next Saturday.

Whelo79 · 20-07-2020 3:06pm

Here's a fight on Bamma which Rhys lost to Terry Brazier which was wrestling heavy.

https://youtu.be/yGADaHM3kzU

Starlord_01 · 20-07-2020 3:23pm

Chimaev went straight for the takedown against Phillips and absolutely mauled him on the ground.

Early night for McKee.

US2 · 20-07-2020 9:00pm

Khabib could be out for a long time, possibly next year suprised justin doesn't want red panty night

https://twitter.com/Chisanga_Malata/status/1285250058091483136?s=19

US2 · 20-07-2020 9:01pm

Hwres the interview

https://youtu.be/Mr8ABrfI_mA

AlmightyCushion · 20-07-2020 11:05pm

US2 wrote: »

Khabib could be out for a long time, possibly next year suprised justin doesn't want red panty night

https://twitter.com/Chisanga_Malata/status/1285250058091483136?s=19

He could be playing hard ball to more money maybe. It worked for Diaz for the rematch.

Beersmith · 21-07-2020 6:09am

You would think its more likely his father dying would be the reason

Starlord_01 · 21-07-2020 8:31am

Beersmith wrote: »

You would think its more likely his father dying would be the reason

I think he was talking about Gaethje.

MidlanderMan · 21-07-2020 4:07pm

I see the UFC have dug Little Nog out of retirement for their next card.

How desperate are they for fighters people have heard of at this stage?

Axwell · 21-07-2020 4:21pm

MidlanderMan wrote: »

I see the UFC have dug Little Nog out of retirement for their next card.

How desperate are they for fighters people have heard of at this stage?

Little Nog hasn't retired..he was scheduled to have his trilogy fight with Shogun in May and was expected to retire after that, this is that fight rescheduled.

Mellor · 21-07-2020 4:25pm

MidlanderMan wrote: »

I see the UFC have dug Little Nog out of retirement for their next card.

How desperate are they for fighters people have heard of at this stage?

Little Nog was never retired. He fought last year, and has one fight left on his contract.
Will probably continue to fight past this in Japan.

Beersmith · 23-07-2020 8:06pm

The more I'm thinking about it Mckee is going to be completed smashed in there. I think it would have been reasonable for his management to have declined this opportunity for something to prepare a bit more for. I really don't understand this last minute step in for guy that only fought 3 weeks ago. Fans aren't clamouring to see chimaev fight or he is a headliner etc. Just seems a bit mad to rush into this hard of an opponent.

Fromvert · 23-07-2020 8:22pm

Beersmith wrote: »

The more I'm thinking about it Mckee is going to be completed smashed in there. I think it would have been reasonable for his management to have declined this opportunity for something to prepare a bit more for. I really don't understand this last minute step in for guy that only fought 3 weeks ago. Fans aren't clamouring to see chimaev fight or he is a headliner etc. Just seems a bit mad to rush into this hard of an opponent.

The one thing we know about the UFC is that they're a vindictive bastards. When they will treat top level pros like **** and put them on the shelf for months/years for not saying yes to them, the guy on the local level saying no is giving them a chance to scrub you from their list of potential fighters they could sign.

Also take into a account of the pandemic we're going through, when will the next time a local show will even be on for him to make some money and stay active or is he even working outside of fighting right now? Getting 8k to show looks very inviting when you're on the low rung of the MMA ladder.

Hopefully he can pull off the upset or put on a solid showing with the late notice and get another crack at it.

Beersmith · 23-07-2020 8:26pm

^ yeah agreed. This is a super weird case as chimaev just fought a few weeks ago so what is the rush in getting him to fight again

Zero-Cool · 23-07-2020 8:32pm

Speaking of Nog, i miss the Big Nog days.

Still Ill · 23-07-2020 10:10pm

I think they're just scrambling to get anyone who's willing to fight to fill up the cards at the moment. They're coming thick and fast and there's probably a lot of guys out of action.