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    #2042
    ricero
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    So Mcgregor beat a number 5 ranked guy Poirier and was given a title shot.

    Till has beaten a number 1 ranked guy and has been given a title shot and Colby is out injured. I dont understand why people have their knickers in a twist with Till getting the shot.


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    #2043
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,337 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Posted this in the other thread, but might get more coverage here.

    OneFC live stream on YouTube.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ3eGchBJqc

    Garry Tonon up now.
    Renzo Gracie and Shinya Aoki up afterwards


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    #2044
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Mellor wrote: »
    Posted this in the other thread, but might get more coverage here.

    OneFC live stream on YouTube.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ3eGchBJqc

    Garry Tonon up now.
    Renzo Gracie and Shinya Aoki up afterwards

    How did Gary get on? Can't watch. For a bjj guy he looked excellent with his hands an footwork last time out.


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    #2045
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,337 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    How did Gary get on? Can't watch. For a bjj guy he looked excellent with his hands an footwork last time out.
    Garry won by RNC in rd 3. He did ok with the hands, clipped a few times, takedowns were good, attacked with subs constantly. The other guy did incredibly well to escape inverted heelhooks, omoplata, mounted triangle, a darce and guillotine attempt. He endured a facecranking RNC and got out, but Garry switched and caught the other side under the chin

    Renzo up next.


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    #2046
    yourdeadwright
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    ricero wrote: »
    So Mcgregor beat a number 5 ranked guy Poirier and was given a title shot.

    Till has beaten a number 1 ranked guy and has been given a title shot and Colby is out injured. I dont understand why people have their knickers in a twist with Till getting the shot.
    Cause he was miles overweight in that fight not even close to weight,


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    #2047
    ricero
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    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Cause he was miles overweight in that fight not even close to weight,

    I dont remember the same outrage when Romero got the shot after missing weight and beating Rockhold.

    Till vs Woodley should be a very interesting fight.


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    #2048
    yourdeadwright
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    ricero wrote: »
    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Cause he was miles overweight in that fight not even close to weight,

    I dont remember the same outrage when Romero got the shot after missing weight and beating Rockhold.

    Till vs Woodley should be a very interesting fight.
    On was 2 lbs over which is bad,  But 4 and a half is taking the piss .


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    #2049
    Fall_Guy
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    ricero wrote: »
    So Mcgregor beat a number 5 ranked guy Poirier and was given a title shot.

    Till has beaten a number 1 ranked guy and has been given a title shot and Colby is out injured. I dont understand why people have their knickers in a twist with Till getting the shot.

    Ah Jaysus, McGregor wiped Poirier out, and made weight. Till just edged Wonderboy at best, could easily have been scored a draw or went the other way....he also was a mile overweight. The two things combined have left some people feeling its a bit premature for a title shot. Is it really that outlandish a stance to take?!


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    #2050
    kubjones
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    Fall_Guy wrote: »
    Ah Jaysus, McGregor wiped Poirier out, and made weight. Till just edged Wonderboy at best, could easily have been scored a draw or went the other way....he also was a mile overweight. The two things combined have left some people feeling its a bit premature for a title shot. Is it really that outlandish a stance to take?!

    But he smashed Cowboy in the first round and arguably, nobody has won "convincingly" over Wonderboy, including Woodley.

    The weight thing is a black mark on his career, but not everything that he should be judged for.

    Plus, Woodley is ready to go and there's nobody else at the top capable of fighting save Dos Anjos, who lost his last fight.

    People want to see this fight, whether he deserves it or not, there's nobody else to put forward now that Covington is out for a while.


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    #2051
    0byme75341jo28
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    There'd be some bit of merit to the McGregor argument had he not steamrolled his way up the rankings, beat the no. 1 contender on short notice after the champ pulled out, and then beaten the undisputed champ in 13 seconds at the end of the same year. Till hasn't been half as impressive, but if he wins he obviously deserved the shot.


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    #2052
    Ultimate Seduction
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    Thought there was uproar over Romero getting the shot too to be honest. I've just come to terms with it that belts mean nothing, it's the fights an styles I care about. I've a feeling till will be very conservative in another dance off.

    Fight of the year is on this weekend, and quite possibly card of the year if all the fights go as expected


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    #2053
    tommyboy26
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    ricero wrote: »
    Some people really do have short memories. For instance Conor Mcgregor beat a tin can in Dennis Siver and got a title shot.

    Till just beat the number 1 ranked guy in Wonderboy and Colby is out having surgery. Who else do the ufc give a shot to ?

    Cant wait for this fight now. Hope Till does it he seems a down to earth guy and it would be great for mma on this side of the pond.

    i personally dont think conor should get a title shot. would like to see him fight maybe winner of eddie V dustin and maybe khabib fight tony.

    conor has not had an mma fight in over 2 years as much as i would like to see him fight khabib i dont think he deserves it


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    #2054
    Ultimate Seduction
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    tommyboy26 wrote: »
    i personally dont think conor should get a title shot. would like to see him fight maybe winner of eddie V dustin and maybe khabib fight tony.

    conor has not had an mma fight in over 2 years as much as i would like to see him fight khabib i dont think he deserves it

    A Conor v Eddie fight shouldn't be sanctioned again. Conor literally played with him in there


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    #2055
    rob316
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    tommyboy26 wrote: »
    i personally dont think conor should get a title shot. would like to see him fight maybe winner of eddie V dustin and maybe khabib fight tony.

    conor has not had an mma fight in over 2 years as much as i would like to see him fight khabib i dont think he deserves it

    Eddie and McGregor? It's probably the most one sided fight you'll ever see, McGregor didn't break a sweat


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    #2056
    cletus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭cletus


    rob316 wrote: »
    Eddie and McGregor? It's probably the most one sided fight you'll ever see, McGregor didn't break a sweat

    Anderson vs Leban
    Jones vs Rua
    Nunes vs Rousey
    jedrzejczyk vs Esparza


    But yes, McGregor vs Alverez was one sided


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    #2057
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,337 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    cletus wrote: »
    rob316 wrote: »
    Eddie and McGregor? It's probably the most one sided fight you'll ever see, McGregor didn't break a sweat

    Anderson vs Leban
    Jones vs Rua
    Nunes vs Rousey
    jedrzejczyk vs Esparza


    But yes, McGregor vs Alverez was one sided
    Cain v JDS 2 & 3
    BJ v Sanchez
    Rory v BJ, Rory v Diaz
    GSP v BJ, Koschek
    Khabib v Barboza, Trujillo

    They're the matches I think of as one-sides beatdowns.


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    #2058
    tommyboy26
    Registered Users Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭tommyboy26


    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    A Conor v Eddie fight shouldn't be sanctioned again. Conor literally played with him in there
    rob316 wrote: »
    Eddie and McGregor? It's probably the most one sided fight you'll ever see, McGregor didn't break a sweat

    ok so thats a valid point that would be a stupid match up.

    My point was i still dont think he should not walk straight back into a title fight, have him fight someone in the top 10 first


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    #2059
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,337 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    tommyboy26 wrote: »
    My point was i still dont think he should not walk straight back into a title fight, have him fight someone in the top 10 first
    He never lost the belt in the cage. He's still the lineal champion. That carries a lot of weight in itself. Khabib beating McGregor validates his reign. At the moment it's a glorified interim belt (Iaquinta FFS)


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    #2060
    tommyboy26
    Registered Users Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭tommyboy26


    Mellor wrote: »
    He never lost the belt in the cage. He's still the lineal champion. That carries a lot of weight in itself. Khabib beating McGregor validates his reign. At the moment it's a glorified interim belt (Iaquinta FFS)

    he lost it because he didnt defend it. i agree khabib beating iaquinta for a belt was a joke but if anyone deserves a title shot it is tony. he was the interim champ and is on a ten fight win streak. he should fight khabib and conor fight someone else and if conor wins then he gets a title shot.

    dont get me wrong i am a big fan of conor but i just think the ufc has gone nuts lately with who gets a title shot and interim belts made when there is no reason


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    #2061
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,337 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    tommyboy26 wrote: »
    he lost it because he didnt defend it. i agree khabib beating iaquinta for a belt was a joke but if anyone deserves a title shot it is tony. he was the interim champ and is on a ten fight win streak. he should fight khabib and conor fight someone else and if conor wins then he gets a title shot.

    dont get me wrong i am a big fan of conor but i just think the ufc has gone nuts lately with who gets a title shot and interim belts made when there is no reason
    I'm aware of why he lost the title. I'm just pointing out there a difference between losing it due to inactivity and losing it in the cage.
    As an example, Cruz lost his belt due to inactivity (injury) and was offered an immediate shot on his return, but opted for a tune upright.

    Tony v Khabib is cursed. Fell through 4 times now. He's still recovering from surgery. My guess is he'll be co-main on the Khabib v McGregor card just in case somebody gets injured


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    #2062
    Zero-Cool
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    Yeah 'Dana said' he wants Tony on the same card. Tbh, you'd need a back up for both Tony and khabib, Tony Vs Nate would be a good scrap.


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    #2063
    thewheel2.0
    Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭thewheel2.0


    Mellor wrote: »
    He never lost the belt in the cage. He's still the lineal champion. That carries a lot of weight in itself. Khabib beating McGregor validates his reign. At the moment it's a glorified interim belt (Iaquinta FFS)

    He is both the lineal champ and one of the most exciting fighters ever. His lineal champ status alone is enough for me.

    Khabib surely wants and deserves a validating moment like DC got recently.


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    #2064
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Melvin Guillard knocked out again today.

    He’s now 1-9 (1 no contest) in his last 11 fights and has been knocked out in his last 4.

    He needs saving from himself but it already seems far too late.

    Sad.


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    #2065
    mailburner
    Registered Users Posts: 23,858 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    Paully D wrote: »
    Melvin Guillard knocked out again today.

    He’s now 1-9 (1 no contest) in his last 11 fights and has been knocked out in his last 4.

    He needs saving from himself but it already seems far too late.

    Sad.

    it is sad and one thing I noticed last night, think it was before the poirier fight they said melvin has the most knockouts in the lightweight div to date (7)


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    #2066
    DrPhilG
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    Missed weight in 6 of his last 10 too. So if he's only dragging on fighting because he's broke - he's losing a heck of a lot of his purses to opponents too.


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    #2067
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Nothing we didn’t know as of last week, but confirmation from the BBC now:

    https://twitter.com/sandhumma/status/1023664830513917952?s=21

    Very disappointing. That BT package was excellent value for the UFC.


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    #2068
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,839 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    UFC definitely need to change their marketing plan. Great card on paper (turned out great as well), was free and they still can't pull in views. Not sure what they need to do really, do they need to get their ranked fighters on TV more, higher visibility, are people getting so sick of the interims, weight misses, injuries that they are tuning out? Any fans of the sport would have tuned into fox (US) to watch Eddie and Dustin alone so can't explain the worst ratings in fox history.

    https://twitter.com/MMAFighting/status/1023629252531572736?s=19


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    #2069
    jimmii
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    I only went with BT because of it. Be interesting to see where it goes really hope sky don't must scoop it up!


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    #2070
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    UFC definitely need to change their marketing plan. Great card on paper (turned out great as well), was free and they still can't pull in views. Not sure what they need to do really, do they need to get their ranked fighters on TV more, higher visibility, are people getting so sick of the interims, weight misses, injuries that they are tuning out? Any fans of the sport would have tuned into fox (US) to watch Eddie and Dustin alone so can't explain the worst ratings in fox history.

    https://twitter.com/MMAFighting/status/1023629252531572736?s=19

    They need to advertise there cards more than a week in advance which seems to be the case these days. I only really remember non numbered cards when there social media start pushing them on fight week.


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    #2071
    JoeyJJ
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    Must cancel bt come november. They have a long cancelation process. 30 days after next bill period.

    Currently on a really cheap deal after treatening to leave


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