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General MMA Chat/News mk3 - **No Spoilers Use Event Threads**

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    #242
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,789 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    McGregor is not going to sit out till September lads ye come out with some ****.

    Ye.......that wouldn’t be like him at all


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    #243
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Ye.......that wouldn’t be like him at all

    It wouldn't be! He's proved throughout his career that he is a very active fighter. Last year being the exception due to the child and boxing match.
    The man is obsessed with fighting hell fight 3 times this year


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    #244
    dashoonage
    Registered Users Posts: 3,128 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    I'm fooking telling ye lads...he'll do nuttin...it will be him vs the gsp on the msg card in November.


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    #245
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,798 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Another one bites the dust. Hall never showed up to weigh in, can't stand him and was looking forward to seeing Vitor go crazy on him. Vitor is a gas man though, asking for 10 mil or this was gonna be his last fight.

    https://twitter.com/MMAFighting/status/952227757718634496


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    #246
    Django99
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    He's been rushed to hospital and it's very serious apparently


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    #247
    dulux99
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    Uhoh...hopefully he's alright


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    #248
    dulux99
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    Django99 wrote: »
    He's been rushed to hospital and it's very serious apparently

    Where are you reading that it's very serious ? Can't see anything about it on Twitter


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    #249
    The White Feather
    Registered Users Posts: 5,514 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    dulux99 wrote: »
    Where are you reading that it's very serious ? Can't see anything about it on Twitter


    https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/952241009605390336


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    #250
    dulux99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    Ok...no real indication from Helwanis tweet there that it's "very serious"? Helwani doesn't even know what's happened


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    #251
    Django99
    Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Django99


    Also Paige tweeted and said "it was the scariest thing I've ever seen" whatever it was .


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    #252
    The White Feather
    Registered Users Posts: 5,514 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    dulux99 wrote: »
    Ok...no real indication from Helwanis tweet there that it's "very serious"? Helwani doesn't even know what's happened

    Well this doesn't sound good. I think she is a teammate

    https://twitter.com/PaigeVanzantUFC/status/952235783733284865


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    #253
    The White Feather
    Registered Users Posts: 5,514 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    These are fairly remarkable stats in this tweet

    https://twitter.com/MikeBohnMMA/status/952239513950015488


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    #254
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Fighters weigh in while getting checked out before entering the octagon. That's the only way to stop this nonsense.


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    #255
    Django99
    Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Django99


    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Fighters weigh in while getting checked out before entering the octagon. That's the only way to stop this nonsense.

    Would this not lead to fighters competing while dehydrated?


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    #256
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Whatever One FC are bringing in to stop weight cutting should be explored.


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    #257
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Django99 wrote: »
    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Fighters weigh in while getting checked out before entering the octagon. That's the only way to stop this nonsense.

    Would this not lead to fighters competing while dehydrated?
    Of course it would. Ridiculous suggestion.


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    #258
    dulux99
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Fighters weigh in while getting checked out before entering the octagon. That's the only way to stop this nonsense.

    That would be so much worse. Fighters will always find a way to try and get an advantage by dehydrating themselves. Getting Ko'd in a weight cutting state would be fatal


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    #259
    The White Feather
    Registered Users Posts: 5,514 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Just go back to basics like UFC 1! No Weights just a jock strap,gloves and gum-shield like McGregor said! After all he took on Diaz who had 100lbs and wayyyyyy taller than him! :D


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    #260
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    The White Feather wrote: »
    Just go back to basics like UFC 1! No Weights just a jock strap,gloves and gum-shield like McGregor said! After all he took on Diaz who had 100lbs and wayyyyyy taller than him! :D

    There was one person wearing a single glove in UFC 1.


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    #261
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    dulux99 wrote: »
    That would be so much worse. Fighters will always find a way to try and get an advantage by dehydrating themselves. Getting Ko'd in a weight cutting state would be fatal

    They wouldn't have any advantage, that's the point! If the fight is at lightweight both have to be 155lbs in the octagon. Tell me why a fighter would dehydrate if there is no advantage to be gained!


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    #262
    Ultimate Seduction
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    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    Of course it would. Ridiculous suggestion.

    Bright spark why would a fighter dehydrate when he and his opponent would have to be very same weight in the octagon


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    #263
    dulux99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    No. You're wrong. It's an idiotic suggestion.


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    #264
    The White Feather
    Registered Users Posts: 5,514 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Ariel says Poor Hall suffered a seizure in the middle of it all. Poor fella


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    #265
    Beersmith
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Bright spark why would a fighter dehydrate when he and his opponent would have to be very same weight in the octagon

    Oh god. If you don't understand you really have to think it through more.


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    #266
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Beersmith wrote: »
    Oh god. If you don't understand you really have to think it through more.

    No I don't understand at all. You obviously don't either if you can't tell me why a fighter would dehydrate if there was no advantage to be gained from it


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    #267
    The White Feather
    Registered Users Posts: 5,514 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Arie gave a bit more info. Obviously he mans fainted!

    https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/952261912594657280


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    #268
    dulux99
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    No I don't understand at all. You obviously don't either if you can't tell me why a fighter would cut weight if there was no advantage to be gained from it

    A fighter will always, always, always look for an advantage. If he thinks he can be be 1lb heavier than the guy he's fighting then he will exhaust that opportunity. If you think same day weigh ins will eradicate weight cutting then youre unbelievably naive. Fighters will cut just as much weight and you're just robbing them of the 24 hour recovery window and therefore it's 10 times more dangerous. I've literally never seen anyone else ever suggesting same day weigh ins.


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    #269
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    dulux99 wrote: »
    A fighter will always, always, always look for an advantage. If he thinks he can be be 1lb heavier than the guy he's fighting then he will exhaust that opportunity. If you think same day weigh ins will eradicate weight cutting then youre unbelievably naive. Fighters will cut just as much weight and you're just robbing them of the 24 hour recovery window and therefore it's 10 times more dangerous. I've literally never seen anyone else ever suggesting same day weigh ins.

    Are you missing the point altogether or what? There would be no weight advantage. He could cut all he likes, he'd still have to weigh the same weight as his opponent.

    Joe Rogan suggested on fight night weigh ins before actually.


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    #270
    dulux99
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Are you missing the point altogether or what? There would be no weight advantage. He could cut all he likes, he'd still have to weigh the same weight as his opponent.

    Joe Rogan suggested on fight night weigh ins before actually.

    I think it's clear that only one person here is missing the point pal.

    http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/UnderGround/Munson-Death-a-case-against-same-day-weigh-ins:2385433 have a read off this

    Joe rogan also suggests holding MMA fights on American football fields and fighting without gloves. I suppose they're great ideas too.


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    #271
    Fromvert
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    A fighter who fights at say 155lbs won't walk around and maintain that weight, he'll be a few over even if he knows it's same day weigh in. He'll think his diet/nutrition and training will be perfect and he'll be 155lbs on the day.

    Fighter ends messing up his diet/training and isn't at 155lbs come fight day, he'll cut the water to avoid being fined/pulled from the card. 90% of them are not making enough to be able to deal with a fine or missing a fight altogether, they'll do whatever they can to make that weight.

    They'll start with oh I need to cut 1/2 lbs on the day to make weight. He fights and wins and thinks that wasn't so bad, maybe I can cut 3/4 lbs next time and so on.


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