Official Conor McGregor thread (part 5) *Read Mod Note in Post 1*

rob316

Don't even think it will be close, McGregor will light him up fast and early I reckon.

how.gareth

If I was Khabib I’d be getting Conor down ASAP and twisting the crap out of his left arm like he did to Johnson and take away his best weapon, easier said than done though!

ASOT

Paulys gone full crazy.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/8/15/17690972/paulie-malignaggi-no-balls-conor-mcgregor-will-look-for-a-way-out-of-khabib-nurmagomedov-fight

ricero

Khabib will fight smart and will not trade with Mcgregor. Reckon he gets a quick takedown and mauls Mcgregor. Mcgregor gases and its rinse and repeat for 5 rounds.

Perhaps maybe Khabib wins earlier from a submisson.

All Khabib needs is one takedown and its over i feel.

Auroras_encore

won't even be a contest khabib is that slow hell be put to sleep in the first and Im no mcgregor fan by any means

BigMo1

ricero wrote: »

Khabib will fight smart and will not trade with Mcgregor. Reckon he gets a quick takedown and mauls Mcgregor. Mcgregor gases and its rinse and repeat for 5 rounds.

Perhaps maybe Khabib wins earlier from a submisson.

All Khabib needs is one takedown and its over i feel.

Khabib rarely finishes people on the ground. I think that will be pivotal unless Conor arms go dead from trying to get up. I can see Khabib taking Conor down in Round 1 and being stiffed in the 2nd when Conor has his distanced figured. If he fights the way he did against Al, he gets flatlined in the first.

rob316

ricero wrote: »

Khabib will fight smart and will not trade with Mcgregor. Reckon he gets a quick takedown and mauls Mcgregor. Mcgregor gases and its rinse and repeat for 5 rounds.

Perhaps maybe Khabib wins earlier from a submisson.

All Khabib needs is one takedown and its over i feel.

To do a take down if you need to come into McGregors range, Khabib won't have faced a striker with his timing and accuracy yet.

If Khabib had fought and beaten Tony, I'd say ya Conor has got a tough match up but Khabib hasn't really beat anyone close to McGregor level so its a bit of an unkown.

ricero

BigMo1 wrote: »

Khabib rarely finishes people on the ground. I think that will be pivotal unless Conor arms go dead from trying to get up. I can see Khabib taking Conor down in Round 1 and being stiffed in the 2nd when Conor has his distanced figured. If he fights the way he did against Al, he gets flatlined in the first.

I see people using this a lot when criticizing Khabib.

He ****ing played with Al for 5 rounds :pac: That was not Khabib at 100 or even 80 per cent i feel against Iaquinta

Inviere

ASOT wrote: »

Paulys gone full crazy.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/8/15/17690972/paulie-malignaggi-no-balls-conor-mcgregor-will-look-for-a-way-out-of-khabib-nurmagomedov-fight

That guy is a pure knob, painful stuff to listen to. That whole Mayweather/McGregor circus needs to be erased from history

Alf Veedersane

rob316 wrote: »

To do a take down if you need to come into McGregors range, Khabib won't have faced a striker with his timing and accuracy yet.

If Khabib had fought and beaten Tony, I'd say ya Conor has got a tough match up but Khabib hasn't really beat anyone close to McGregor level so its a bit of an unkown.

And similarly, McGregor hasn't fought anyone like Khabib.

Both Mendez and Nate went inside his range and didn't get dropped doing it.
People are painting it to be as binary as if Khabib gets inside, it's game over or if Khabib tries to get in, he'll be starched.

BigMo1

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

And similarly, McGregor hasn't fought anyone like Khabib.

Both Mendez and Nate went inside his range and didn't get dropped doing it.
People are painting it to be as binary as if Khabib gets inside, it's game over or if Khabib tries to get in, he'll be starched.

Yes they did. Multiple times for Nate and fight-ending for Chad.

Alf Veedersane

BigMo1 wrote: »

Yes they did. Multiple times for Nate and fight-ending for Chad.

You're forgetting the bit about Chad having him on the ground before that.

Point is, they got in for takedown attempts without being KO'd. It's not a given that Khabib gets KO'd if he goes for it. It's a risk and McGregor could also stuff the attempt.

So it's not a 1 or 0.

The Nal

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

And similarly, McGregor hasn't fought anyone like Khabib.

And he probably won't. Will believe this fight is happening when I see Khabib in the Octagon.

Boom_Bap

This fight is pretty much impossible to call.


People say the fight starts standing up, by that can change very quickly.
What happens on the ground can happen or change very quickly as well.


This will be down to one of the 2 making a mistake or not being properly prepared.


It's an interesting match up.

Whelo79

Boom_Bap wrote: »

This will be down to one of the 2 making a mistake or not being properly prepared.

And let's not forget talent, hard work, skill, being better on the night, a perfectly timed reaction or just getting the read on your opponents timing first.

I hear this a lot (particularly in team sports) X team just didn't turn up, X team were awful tonight. People are always quick to jump on the negative when maybe Y team just out-thought their opponents and nullified their game plan.

Most fights are not won by the opponent making a mistake or being unprepared.

Lukker-

ricero wrote: »

I see people using this a lot when criticizing Khabib.

He ****ing played with Al for 5 rounds :pac: That was not Khabib at 100 or even 80 per cent i feel against Iaquinta

I also see this opinion posted a lot.

IMO, Khabib's a professional fighter. They want to be in and out as quickly as possible. One big shot from Iaquinta and it's over. Khabib fought like that because he had to. He couldn't land the takedown and would have gassed out shooting.

He pieced him up with his jab, but Iaquinta was willing to eat shots to avoid the takedown.

Bunny Colvin

Whelo79 wrote: »

And let's not forget talent, hard work, skill, being better on the night, a perfectly timed reaction or just getting the read on your opponents timing first.

I hear this a lot (particularly in team sports) X team just didn't turn up, X team were awful tonight. People are always quick to jump on the negative when maybe Y team just out-thought their opponents and nullified their game plan.

Most fights are not won by the opponent making a mistake or being unprepared.

The pressure of the occasion is also a factor related to what you've said. McGregor has an advantage there, he's faced Floyd in a huge fight, not to mention Aldo, Nate, Eddie etc. I don't think Khabib has faced that kind of intensity before in The Octagon. We'll see how he handles it.

dulux99

A lot of people are taking confidence from Khabib’s last performance and right so, as he didn’t exactly tear through Iaquinta. But don’t forget he was scheduled to fight Ferguson, then a week before the fight it was Max, and then about 20 hours before the fight it changed a third time.
 
If you contrast his performance in that fight to his performance vs Barboza, someone he trained for throughout the camp, it’s night and day. There’s the obvious caveat that Barboza fight was 3 rounds, but he was genuinely terrifying in that fight.

Either way I give the edge to McGregor but it’s something to bare in mind, imo.

Tazzimus

dulux99 wrote: »

A lot of people are taking confidence from Khabib’s last performance and right so, as he didn’t exactly tear through Iaquinta. But don’t forget he was scheduled to fight Ferguson, then a week before the fight it was Max, and then about 20 hours before the fight it changed a third time.
 
If you contrast his performance in that fight to his performance vs Barboza, someone he trained for throughout the camp, it’s night and day. There’s the obvious caveat that Barboza fight was 3 rounds, but he was genuinely terrifying in that fight.

Either way I give the edge to McGregor but it’s something to bare in mind, imo.

Each of those got easier though.
Tony was the worst fight for him out of those three

dulux99

Tazzimus wrote: »

dulux99 wrote: »

A lot of people are taking confidence from Khabib’s last performance and right so, as he didn’t exactly tear through Iaquinta. But don’t forget he was scheduled to fight Ferguson, then a week before the fight it was Max, and then about 20 hours before the fight it changed a third time.
 
If you contrast his performance in that fight to his performance vs Barboza, someone he trained for throughout the camp, it’s night and day. There’s the obvious caveat that Barboza fight was 3 rounds, but he was genuinely terrifying in that fight.

Either way I give the edge to McGregor but it’s something to bare in mind, imo.

Each of those got easier though.
Tony was the worst fight for him out of those three

I don't disagree but I don't see what bearing that has on my point. The constant shift of opponent will have messed with him, no doubt about it.

XsApollo

What Conor did to Alvarez was Unvelievable.
I remember reading people complaining hat Rogan only goes mad on some fighters or something, but he was Gobsmacked at what he saw and was just a bit speechless.
Alavarez is a hell of a better fighter than Khabib on his feet and How Conor took him apart was unreal.
Khabib has to get him to the ground but he is going to get walloped trying to get him there.
Conor is going to Connect and Connect easy.
How Khabib tales it will decide the outcome of the fight.

AlmightyCushion

XsApollo wrote: »

What Conor did to Alvarez was Unvelievable.
I remember reading people complaining hat Rogan only goes mad on some fighters or something, but he was Gobsmacked at what he saw and was just a bit speechless.
Alavarez is a hell of a better fighter than Khabib on his feet and How Conor took him apart was unreal.
Khabib has to get him to the ground but he is going to get walloped trying to get him there.
Conor is going to Connect and Connect easy.
How Khabib tales it will decide the outcome of the fight.

I didn't expect Alvarez to have much for McGregor on the feet, I know he bet RDA but his striking after he rocked RDA was poor. I was still expecting Alvarez to cause him trouble though. I couldn't believe it when I watched it. For such a high level fight, it was as one sided as you could get. McGregor made Alvarez look like a nobody. Crazy stuff.

Inviere

Eddie bottled it. He's a better fighter than what he showed that night.

Tazzimus

Inviere wrote: »

Eddie bottled it. He's a better fighter than what he showed that night.

He said himself that he had a plan, which went out the window as soon as McGregor hit him

hewhoscares

Inviere wrote: »

Eddie bottled it. He's a better fighter than what he showed that night.

He didn't bottle it.

He got rocked by the very first shot that landed and it threw him completely. He was circling into McGregors left hand after that first shot.

The kicks to Conors lead leg are something that could be used to debilitate him, don't see Khabib doing that though.

Its such an intriguing fight and all the theatrics before will be fantastic.

Khabib lands a takedown and he'll beat Conor up badly I'd expect - even the next round starting on the feet, he'll be so drained his punches has less power. But Khabibs chin is gonna need to be top end and we haven't really seen him face adversity either.

The Conor two years off with fine living inbetween does have me concerned. Even after the fight announced he was drinking alcohol. It's not like Khabib will beat him because of that one corona Conor had, but all little 1% factors

dulux99

Inviere wrote: »

Eddie bottled it. He's a better fighter than what he showed that night.

Is he though?
 
He’s a winging brawler who throws looping shots and doesn’t chain his striking and wrestling together with any smoothness. He’s good in a firefight against  the likes of Gaethje and Poirier. He was never going to stand a chance against McGregor. The disparity in the fight articulated the disparity between them as fighters, they’re on different levels.

Lukker-

dulux99 wrote: »

Is he though?
 
He’s a winging brawler who throws looping shots and doesn’t chain his striking and wrestling together with any smoothness. He’s good in a firefight against  the likes of Gaethje and Poirier. He was never going to stand a chance against McGregor. The disparity in the fight articulated the disparity between them as fighters, they’re on different levels.

He's got pretty good head movement for a wrestle-boxer, and while he takes shots in the pocket, he usually can mitigate it damage with rolling.

He also has the ability to wrestle**** opponents when needs be.

His problem is durability, although I think he's a technical fighter, he does like to give the fans what they want, and has gotten into his fair share of brawls. He had the chin to survive before, but I think it's caught up with him. Still no one has dismantled him like McGregor did.

ASOT

Eddie was kod with the first knockdown, but when he banged his head it looked like he woke back up. It was all downhill from there.

Fromvert

Khabib doesn't kick anyway good enough that it's something to worry about, his hands, head movement and feet are sloppy when he tries to box and he doesn't shoot from the outside. This is how Conor beats him, he's faster, got better movement and has far better hands. Conor doesn't need to kick in this, when it's standing making it a boxing match at range and make Khabib chase him.

Khabib doesn't have much of a shot from the outside he gets inside and when he can grabs a hold of his opponent, from here he strings take down attempt after take down attempt constantly changing what he's going for until he gets it because he does get it. His opponents can stop the first few (why his take down success rate is lowish) but his variety of take downs is what gets people. It's not just bam first time he grabs you he gets you down it's a grind and a constant battle as he keeps changing. He comes forward all the time, Conor needs to move, move and move some more and when Khabib gets in range he pays and you move.

Khabib has to get inside and I think he'll get hurt enough on the first few attempts that he'll get wild and get stopped end of the first/second.

Zero-Cool

Some jump for the high end seats. I always thought those high end ones would be given as freebies to celebs.

https://twitter.com/shaunalshatti/status/1029476626554179584?s=19

BigMo1

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Some jump for the high end seats. I always thought those high end ones would be given as freebies to celebs.

https://twitter.com/shaunalshatti/status/1029476626554179584?s=19

Hoping to get something $405 and down. Live in hope!

robwen

Khabib sounds like another Ronda Rousey 😉

dulux99

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Some jump for the high end seats. I always thought those high end ones would be given as freebies to celebs.

https://twitter.com/shaunalshatti/status/1029476626554179584?s=19

It's pretty frustrating how we're paying UFC 205 prices but the rest of the card is like something from a Sunday night in South Dakota on FS1

Lukker-

dulux99 wrote: »

It's pretty frustrating how we're paying UFC 205 prices but the rest of the card is like something from a Sunday night in South Dakota on FS1

The card is still being put together. The co-main is disappointing enough alright. But fights like Kevin Lee v Pettis should help fill out the main card with some good fights.

WanderlustIre

Hopefully Khabib shoots early locks in and closes it out early. I can't see Conor surviving a round. Although if Khabib goes trading he will be slept.

I hope emotion doesn't allow him stand.

dulux99

WanderlustIre wrote: »

Hopefully Khabib shoots early locks in and closes it out early. I can't see Conor surviving a round. Although if Khabib goes trading he will be slept.

I hope emotion doesn't allow him stand.

Iaquinta can last 5 but Conor cant last 1.

What's your rationale there?

WanderlustIre

dulux99 wrote: »

Iaquinta can last 5 but Conor cant last 1.

What's your rationale there?

Do you think Khabib approached fight night with Al same as he will with Conor?

Khabib will have one plan and that is to disable or restrict Conor's striking. No other fighter has the threat Conor does. So to roll with that plan he needs to maul him and tie him up I believe within 2 minutes he will of scored a takedown.

dulux99

WanderlustIre wrote: »

dulux99 wrote: »

Iaquinta can last 5 but Conor cant last 1.

What's your rationale there?

Do you think Khabib approached fight night with Al same as he will with Conor?

Khabib will have one plan and that is to disable or restrict Conor's striking. No other fighter has the threat Conor does. So to roll with that plan he needs to maul him and tie him up I believe within 2 minutes he will of scored a takedown.

WanderlustIre wrote: »

dulux99 wrote: »

Iaquinta can last 5 but Conor cant last 1.

What's your rationale there?

Do you think Khabib approached fight night with Al same as he will with Conor?

Khabib will have one plan and that is to disable or restrict Conor's striking. No other fighter has the threat Conor does. So to roll with that plan he needs to maul him and tie him up I believe within 2 minutes he will of scored a takedown.

Doesn’t really answer my question. His gameplan against Iaquinta in the first round was the same as it’ll be against McGregor – get him down and f*ck him up.
 
Khabib has had 10 fights in the UFC and has only finished someone in the first round once. Darrel Horcher got into the second round against him. But no, you’re right – McGregor hasn’t a hope of getting out of the first round.

WanderlustIre

dulux99 wrote: »

Doesn’t really answer my question. His gameplan against Iaquinta in the first round was the same as it’ll be against McGregor – get him down and f*ck him up.
 
Khabib has had 10 fights in the UFC and has only finished someone in the first round once. Darrel Horcher got into the second round against him. But no, you’re right – McGregor hasn’t a hope of getting out of the first round.

Ok relax yourself and stop being a petulant child. I said I can't see, not that he hasn't a hope. Cop yourself on.

EagererBeaver

dulux99 wrote: »

But no, you’re right – McGregor hasn’t a hope of getting out of the first round.

Guy expresses opinion. Next poster misconstrues it, deliberately or otherwise, and decides to get snarky about it.

Are you allowed to be of the opinion that Conor McGregor isn't invincible and the greatest thing since sliced bread on this forum?!

Whelo79

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Guy expresses opinion. Next poster misconstrues it, deliberately or otherwise, and decides to get snarky about it.

Are you allowed to be of the opinion that Conor McGregor isn't invincible and the greatest thing since sliced bread on this forum?!

The person wanders into the MMA forum and gave an opinion, was questioned on said opinion and given facts as to why they are likely wrong. What's the issue?

EagererBeaver

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Are you allowed to be of the opinion that Conor McGregor isn't invincible and the greatest thing since sliced bread on this forum?!

Bit of a grey area..

WanderlustIre

Whelo79 wrote: »

The person wanders into the MMA forum and gave an opinion, was questioned on said opinion and given facts as to why they are likely wrong. What's the issue?

Why they are wrong hahaha? How the heck can you say they are likely wrong.

EagererBeaver

Whelo79 wrote: »

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Guy expresses opinion. Next poster misconstrues it, deliberately or otherwise, and decides to get snarky about it.

Are you allowed to be of the opinion that Conor McGregor isn't invincible and the greatest thing since sliced bread on this forum?!

The person wanders into the MMA forum and gave an opinion, was questioned on said opinion and given facts as to why they are likely wrong. What's the issue?

It's an opinion on how he believes the fight will go. You can engage them in debate and show them why you think they are wrong, sure. You can't misquote their opinion and shout at them simply because they happen to believe something different to you, whether you think it's misinformed or not.

EagererBeaver

Whelo79 wrote: »

The person wanders into the MMA forum

Oh and as for this sly bit of inexplicable wankery, it's an open forum, people can come and go as they please (or should be able to) without condescending arseholes coming along and sneering at them because they're not regular posters. It's an absolutely enormous fight. Perfectly natural that the appeal and interest would extend to those who aren't regular posters in the MMA forum.

dulux99

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Guy expresses opinion. Next poster misconstrues it, deliberately or otherwise, and decides to get snarky about it.

Are you allowed to be of the opinion that Conor McGregor isn't invincible and the greatest thing since sliced bread on this forum?!

I posed counter arguments to the guy who said conor hasn't a chance of surviving one round, and that equates to me saying conor mcgregor is invincible? Lol.

WanderlustIre

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Oh and as for this sly bit of inexplicable wankery, it's an open forum, people can come and go as they please (or should be able to) without condescending arseholes coming along and sneering at them because they're not regular posters. It's an absolutely enormous fight. Perfectly natural that the appeal and interest would extend to those who aren't regular posters in the MMA forum.

I follow here regurlarly I don't post usually outside GAA , but I am a member of Fantom MMA I am not a blow in and have been around these circles for the best part of my life.

WanderlustIre

dulux99 wrote: »

I posed counter arguments to the guy who said conor hasn't a chance of surviving one round, and that equates to me saying conor mcgregor is invincible? Lol.

Show me where I have said Conor hasn't a chance of surviving one round? Verbatim please.

Fromvert

Khabib is not much of a finisher since he's been in the UFC, if he's to get a finish it would be late in fight from what we've seen of him. It's the accumulation of grappling and ground strikes that grind his opponents down that eventually he gets a finish/decision he's not some monster ground and pounder who'll do serious damage with a few shots.

Look at the guys he's finished Kamal Shalorus, Thiago Tavares, Darrell Horcher and Michael Johnson. Shalorus and Horcher just not high level fighters and Horcher was a late replacement. Tavares a solid fighter who's been around a long time but spent most of his career outside the top 15. Johnson the best guy he finished, had been in and around the top 15 a while and has some very good wins. Not a lot points to him blowing McGregor out of the water early.

Whelo79

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Oh and as for this sly bit of inexplicable wankery, it's an open forum, people can come and go as they please (or should be able to) without condescending arseholes coming along and sneering at them because they're not regular posters. It's an absolutely enormous fight. Perfectly natural that the appeal and interest would extend to those who aren't regular posters in the MMA forum.

Don't pretend like people with little to no interest don't 'wander' into the MMA forum every time McGregor has a fight on the horizon to share their 2c and then disappear for another 6 months. The guy gave an opinion, got a counter argument and then accused the responder of being a 'petulant child'.

As for the rest of your post, you are the biggest snide and pompous poster on this forum so you may want to take a step back and self evaluate your own posting history before you accuse someone else of 'wankery'.