Chris Froome tests positive for Salbutamol

Hurrache

MPFGLB wrote: »

Chris Boardman on ITV says he has gone from villan to victim

Means nothing, he's very much in the minority, he and Kirby.

Off the Ball saying the course today was littered with Froome out signs, and there was cheers at the finish area when Froome went down. But at least they were cheers, not boos like he got at the team reveal day.

Brian?

MPFGLB wrote: »

Chris Boardman on ITV says he has gone from villan to victim

Then Chris Boardman is a bigger gob****e than I realised.

Je suis Charlie Froome

MPFGLB

Morto helpturn the tide in favour of Froome...

https://twitter.com/TelegraphSport/status/1015531367868792832

magicbastarder

David Walsh says he now regrets ever doubting Chris Froome
http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/david-walsh-doubting-chris-froome/

Pa8301

magicbastarder wrote: »

David Walsh says he now regrets ever doubting Chris Froome
http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/david-walsh-doubting-chris-froome/

I'd hate to go for dinner with David. How much time would he spend dithering over what to order?!

Dr. Bre

Mmm he had faith in lance and also Froome. He’s a believer

not sane

Think there is a brewing storm coming, lot of journos have been very quiet. Could be wrong.

recedite

magicbastarder wrote: »

David Walsh says he now regrets ever doubting Chris Froome
http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/david-walsh-doubting-chris-froome/

I'm sure if "our respective villas are just 500 metres apart in Portugal" that in itself is proof enough that he must be the right sort of chap, and not at all the type to cheat.

magicbastarder

david walsh can smell performance enhancing drugs from 1km away, so knows well that anyone who lives closer than that would be detecting if they were on the juice.

recedite

magicbastarder wrote: »

david walsh can smell performance enhancing drugs from 1km away, so knows well that anyone who lives closer than that would be detecting if they were on the juice.

Either that, or Froome has proved to be a great source of insider information and gossip, and Walsh does not want to isolate himself from such a valuable source.

CramCycle

recedite wrote: »

Either that, or Froome has proved to be a great source of insider information and gossip, and Walsh does not want to isolate himself from such a valuable source.

All that means is that Walsh is a Gossip columnist rather than a journalist. It really is shocking that supposed journalists are presenting such emotive views as if it was in someway important to the story.

Lusk_Doyle

recedite wrote: »

I'm sure if "our respective villas are just 500 metres apart in Portugal" that in itself is proof enough that he must be the right sort of chap, and not at all the type to cheat.

Dry sh1te in shock revelation - he's actually not a dry sh1te and is able to laugh and joke with people.

WTF has his charisma or otherwise got to do with the situation? This is a more a story about how I love my great mate Chris, by David Walsh.

terrydel

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

Dry sh1te in shock revelation - he's actually not a dry sh1te and is able to laugh and joke with people.

WTF has his charisma or otherwise got to do with the situation? This is a more a story about how I love my great mate Chris, by David Walsh.

Has anyone ever crawled up their own arse to the extent Walsh has? The man is narcissistic to the nth degree. He thinks hes part of the story now rather than merely telling it. Hes nearly as repugnant as Brailsford. Nearly, matching that snake for repugnance would be impossible.

Choochtown

recedite wrote: »

Either that, or Froome has proved to be a great source of insider information and gossip, and Walsh does not want to isolate himself from such a valuable source.

He basically admits it in the article.

He says he was asked if he'd miss being at the Tour this year.

His answer "This is complicated because it involves my relationship with Chris Froome"

He then goes on to say "I doubted him. That was a judgement call I regret"

Contrary to what Walsh claims on Twitter he did not print an apology. The words "sorry" or "apologise" are noticeably absent from the article.
He hints that Froome may be innocent (to get back in with him??) but falls short of saying it (he doesn't want to look an idiot if/when the truth comes out)

Lumen

terrydel wrote: »

Has anyone ever crawled up their own arse to the extent Walsh has? The man is narcissistic to the nth degree. He thinks hes part of the story now rather than merely telling it. Hes nearly as repugnant as Brailsford. Nearly, matching that snake for repugnance would be impossible.

It's great that no-one has lost their sense of perspective in this debate.

RobFowl

I like Walsh, think he writes well. Lost his sense of perspective with cycling but was always a fan. In many ways we expect journo's to have higher standards and principles than we have, Kimmage stood up for his and lost his job and his home, how many of us would do that ? I certainly would not.

C3PO

To my mind, Paul Kimmage became obsessed and totally lost his perspective and as a consequence his writing became one dimensional!

1bryan

C3PO wrote: »

To my mind, Paul Kimmage became obsessed and totally lost his perspective and as a consequence his writing became one dimensional!

everything he writes? Like, absolutely everything he writes?

I'd agree that he loses the run of himself when he gets a bee in his bonnet about certain things (or more specifically, certain people), but he's one of the only journalists left out there willing to fight the good fight for the sport.

CramCycle

I would go the other way, I think he is a good journalist, constructs a story, asks questions. He does get a bee in his bonnet but good journalists do.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't like him as a person having talked to people who knew him growing up, and hopefully he has changed. Some of the stories of his youth do not paint him as a nice person at all but then I am sure there are stories about me that don't paint me in a good light either.

The key thing is though, I don't let my personal view of Kimmage take away from some of the genuinely great work he does. He seems driven and single minded, and despite his tone, if the evidence shows something else, he will go somewhere else.

Paully D

https://twitter.com/johnbrewin_/status/1020651168865890306?s=21

Jesus wept :pac:

Sal Butamol

Paully D wrote: »

https://twitter.com/johnbrewin_/status/1020651168865890306?s=21

Jesus wept :pac:

Team Sky disease.

CramCycle

Anyone have ant idea why Froome won't sit on someone's wheel on a climb, it is incredibly weird to watch. There is no reason, bar one or two out there theories, why a pro rider would sit that far back from someone they are following up a climb.

Only caught the end of what Wiggins said on ITV earlier which led me to believe there might have been something interesting said before hand. Cycling news had a piece on it

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bradley-wiggins-were-still-not-at-the-bottom-of-it/

Brian?

CramCycle wrote: »

Anyone have ant idea why Froome won't sit on someone's wheel on a climb, it is incredibly weird to watch. There is no reason, bar one or two out there theories, why a pro rider would sit that far back from someone they are following up a climb.

He can't see them. He's staring down so much he needs to leave enough space not to rear end the rider in front.

Burkie1203

https://twitter.com/robertdineen/status/963189684452122625?s=19

mloc123

CramCycle wrote: »

Anyone have ant idea why Froome won't sit on someone's wheel on a climb, it is incredibly weird to watch. There is no reason, bar one or two out there theories, why a pro rider would sit that far back from someone they are following up a climb.

care to share..? or does it fall under "speculation"?

Lusk_Doyle

mloc123 wrote: »

care to share..? or does it fall under "speculation"?

He doesn't like being close enough to sniff the sweaty butts of other men?

CramCycle

Brian? wrote: »

He can't see them. He's staring down so much he needs to leave enough space not to rear end the rider in front.

This actually fits quite well

mloc123 wrote: »

care to share..? or does it fall under "speculation"?

One of them isn't, and that is similar to the above point, he really is a very poor or very nervous bike handler. This also means that while he is getting some draft, he is using more energy than needed, and still being in the top 10 in the world. Its unprofessional and between incredible and unbelievable. The other theories are wild speculation and would not be OK here, and I am not sure if they are correct. They may be true but I am not convinced they explain his positioning.

Water John

Team Sky getting a lot of abuse on the road.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jul/23/team-sky-abuse-tour-de-france-sir-dave-brailsford

TV viewers hitting a 10 yr low. A big turnoff of TV and sponsorship may be the only cure for professional cycling.

Pedal Pusher

Well if anything will hit home it will be the withdrawal or reduction in sponsorships. Might be no harm!