Morning traffic build up on Aghards Rd, Celbridge

ZV Yoda

mloc123 wrote: »

Somewhat related... WTF is up with the main st works? I thought theses were to take a week or two, we must be almost 2 months in now?

It's a very complicated job. They're laying sensors that detect cars that contain secondary school students. Anytime one of these cars passes over a sensor during rush hour, the ground opens up and swallows the car & occupants.

Apparently, parents who drop their teenage kids to school are the source of all evil. They occupy roads that are reserved for more important motorists, so this is a novel approach to removing the offending parents from the roads.

The Mulk

mloc123 wrote: »

Somewhat related... WTF is up with the main st works? I thought theses were to take a week or two, we must be almost 2 months in now?

They're scheduled to run until September.
Remove all old lights, telephone poles. Reroute all cables. Install decorative street lights. Resurface enture main street.
Original budget of 1.5m.

Joe Public

mloc123 wrote: »

Somewhat related... WTF is up with the main st works? I thought theses were to take a week or two, we must be almost 2 months in now?

Only started last month

Scheduled to finish in time for the street fest at August Bank Holiday.

mloc123

For some reason I thought it was only meant to take a few weeks, maybe that is the resurfacing when the rest is done

paddythe goat

kildare co co would normally take about 6 months to switch off a light bulb...........and then only after about 2 years talking about it...............and numerous reports, and studies, and all other delay tactics.......................so to see workers in action on the main st,is super.......i think they are excellent workers by the way...........hats off to them......

hope they attack real problems, when they get decorating work finished on main st.....ie better and wider roads, better footpaths, wider footpaths, more roundabouts, more liffey bridges, ring road, bus lanes ,cycle lanes..................parkways, more playgrounds for young children, car parks, new schools

lordgoat

ZV Yoda wrote: »

It's a very complicated job. They're laying sensors that detect cars that contain secondary school students. Anytime one of these cars passes over a sensor during rush hour, the ground opens up and swallows the car & occupants.

Apparently, parents who drop their teenage kids to school are the source of all evil. They occupy roads that are reserved for more important motorists, so this is a novel approach to removing the offending parents from the roads.

Seems to be working well. Vast improvements in traffic and it's only been a week.

mloc123

lordgoat wrote: »

Seems to be working well. Vast improvements in traffic and it's only been a week.

Traffic has been great for the last week or so, what changed... why is it suddenly better?

Ken Tucky

mloc123 wrote: »

Traffic has been great for the last week or so, what changed... why is it suddenly better?

LOL!! I nearly fell for that:D

mloc123

Ken Tucky wrote: »

LOL!! I nearly fell for that:D

Ken Tucky

Bit off topic but does anybody know why hazelhatch is now backed up well before the bridge going into Celbridge. Did some genius decide to change the light sequence?

paddythe goat

yes hatch road, very bad this week, my guess is normal summer hols are over, some students making their way back to school............wait until next week, when all schools return, usual chaos will resume all along main st and narrow bridge and numerous mad junctions............................

heard there is a plan coming for bridge to help public buses.....hope its real plan and not a mickey mouse , short term plan..................need extra lanes....asap.................and well before new 3000 houses come to town under kcc lap .....................
:pac:

Riskymove

paddythe goat wrote: »

heard there is a plan coming for bridge to help public buses.....hope its real plan and not a mickey mouse , short term plan..................

only a temporary solution unfortunately

Provide a new boardwalk crossing for pedestrians and cyclists on the outside of existing bridge and remove the existing footpath which will widen road by a couple of feet

Turning up Hazelhatch road to be stopped also which is a bigger change to traffic

only a new bridge will really help

paddythe goat

agree word coming tro of short term solution for some pedestrians.... bit of a wee start........... was hoping for something more substantial.....like real progress, widen bridge to four lanes as in rps report 2015........and also get new footpaths on both sides, cycle paths on both sides, real modern style width, while keeping old narrow bridge but making it one way out of the town, while new bridge would be incoming only.............all in plan , that came out in 2015..... rps report feasibility study, may 2015.......

will still require outer ring road, and new outer bridge when massive building starts of 3000 new houses under local area plan........what will celbridge be like when they start??? how will schools cope??

zl1whqvjs75cdy

paddythe goat wrote: »

agree word coming tro of short term solution for some pedestrians.... bit of a wee start........... was hoping for something more substantial.....like real progress, widen bridge to four lanes as in rps report 2015........and also get new footpaths on both sides, cycle paths on both sides, real modern style width, while keeping old narrow bridge but making it one way out of the town, while new bridge would be incoming only.............all in plan , that came out in 2015..... rps report feasibility study, may 2015.......

will still require outer ring road, and new outer bridge when massive building starts of 3000 new houses under local area plan........what will celbridge be like when they start??? how will schools cope??

Thought that plan was stalled until the bridge issue was addressed? Surely massive grounds for planning objections.

mloc123

paddythe goat wrote: »

agree word coming tro of short term solution for some pedestrians.... bit of a wee start........... was hoping for something more substantial.....like real progress, widen bridge to four lanes as in rps report 2015........and also get new footpaths on both sides, cycle paths on both sides, real modern style width, while keeping old narrow bridge but making it one way out of the town, while new bridge would be incoming only.............all in plan , that came out in 2015..... rps report feasibility study, may 2015.......

will still require outer ring road, and new outer bridge when massive building starts of 3000 new houses under local area plan........what will celbridge be like when they start??? how will schools cope??

IIRC the planned new developments all have schools included? The one beside oldtown mill does and the one out towards Lucan (or Hazelhatch I guess).

The development on the Ardclough road is blocked until a second bridge is built (will never happen, that development was also include in the previous LDAP)

paddythe goat

according to leinster leader today, page 6.......new cantilevered boardwalk, on way for celbridge liffey bridge.......cost 3 to 4 million???no traffic allowed go up hatch road from bridge......must head out lucan road, get delayed at two sets of lights.......... plus no way to go forward from main st to clane road..one must go over bridge, turn around somewhere and come back over bridge to make your way up clane road..................not a joke..........see leinster leader.....this will lead to major rat running tro st patricks park......not right nor fair to residents there.................

time to contact your local td or all councillors or both asap..............

Riskymove

paddythe goat wrote: »

no traffic allowed go up hatch road from bridge. plus no way to go forward from main st to clane road..

I think things like this are the only way to improve traffic flow at present (i.e. until a new bridge and road ever comes along)

but I do think that it could be just implemented in morning and evening rush hour Mon-Fri

it doesn't matter the rest of the time

mloc123

paddythe goat wrote: »

according to leinster leader today, page 6.......new cantilevered boardwalk, on way for celbridge liffey bridge.......cost 3 to 4 million???no traffic allowed go up hatch road from bridge......must head out lucan road, get delayed at two sets of lights.......... plus no way to go forward from main st to clane road..one must go over bridge, turn around somewhere and come back over bridge to make your way up clane road..................not a joke..........see leinster leader.....this will lead to major rat running tro st patricks park......not right nor fair to residents there.................

time to contact your local td or all councillors or both asap..............

I have no issues with any of that. What is the use case to come down the main Street heading towards clane? Most people will head to Tesco and out that way.

Both of these turns (clane and hazelhatch) are major blocks and cause tailbacks. A single car trying to turn right blocks 20 cars behind it.

Joe Public

"no way to go forward from Main st. to Clane road" -- that sounds a bit mad

zl1whqvjs75cdy

Wish they'd get rid of right turning from the hazlehatch road onto the main road. Doesnt happen that often but when it does you'd be sitting there for 10 minutes.

L1011

Fantastic quote in the Champion about the bridge report and a local self-aggrandizing TD

mloc123

All schools back now and we are back to peak traffic. Cars stopping on the road to let kids jump out (I am too lazy to pull in to the drop points and sure I am only delaying everyone for 30-40 seconds), cars parked all along the double yellow lines on Aghards, red light jumpers... good to be back

Stealthirl

mloc123 wrote: »

I have no issues with any of that. What is the use case to come down the main Street heading towards clane? Most people will head to Tesco and out that way.

Exactly going via Tesco is a no brainier IMO

mloc123 wrote: »

Both of these turns (clane and hazelhatch) are major blocks and cause tailbacks. A single car trying to turn right blocks 20 cars behind it.

More so the Hatch rd but unless its a hard stop as apposed to just signage i can see people still chancing it.

Celbridge now needs an outer ring road not just the bridge we needed 30 years ago, at this rate we might get a bridge in the next 15 years and maybe an outer ring road in time for flying cars

paddythe goat

would love to see safety audit being carried out on old narrow bridge.....agree we needed 4 lanes on old bridge about 20 years ago...........plus now we need ring road all around the town, it will come with new outer bridge, to help old bridge and cope with extra 10,000 residents we will have in 6 years time....plus we need real wide footapths for safety of young and old.........plus we need cycle lanes proper width and bus lanes all over the gaff, to get buses running on time without massive delays.....................................help kcc and tds.......and ministers.............................town of 20,000..........infrastructure for 1950s..............................

mloc123

Like a ghost town this week... any reason there is so little traffic?

com1

mid-term break

Ken Tucky

mloc123 wrote: »

Like a ghost town this week... any reason there is so little traffic?

Stop would ya;)

mloc123

Ken Tucky wrote: »

Stop would ya;)

:pac::pac:

Joe Public

mloc123 wrote: »

Like a ghost town this week... any reason there is so little traffic?

Solution is online schools

paddythe goat

great to get a wee break from monster queues,all over the town, and on all approach roads, in and out.................mid term break in all local schools...........back to regular queues on monday........roll on christmas break.....................any developments re ring road and outer bridge??