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War on Christmas?

  • 14-12-2017 1:47pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭


    So I was driving by the Cadburys factory in Coolock and they have a big sign there for passing motorists... "Seasons Greetings" and some such.

    Seeing a lot of "Happy Holidays" etc also. Is this simply a case of Businesses being overly PC at this time of year? Are they afraid they are going to offend someone by saying "Merry Christmas". If so, who are they offending :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    It's a case of businesses wanting to market their products to as many people as possible. There is no war on C****tmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    Christ some people are so f'in sensitive.

    There are numerous religious holidays around December, they are trying to get money out of as many people as possible. Cadbury's is an international brand... get over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    I don’t really see what the big deal is with saying Seasons Greetings v Happy Holidays v Merry Christmas? It basically all means the same thing Happy “period when your bank account is empty and liver is screaming for mercy”.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,079 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Seasons greetings goes back as far as Charles Dickens era, if not before.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭optogirl


    Don't see why Cadbury's should only recognise christians?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,996 ✭✭✭BailMeOut


    this time of year was celebrated long before it was Christmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    never_mind wrote: »
    Christ some people are so f'in sensitive.

    How DARE you! :mad:

    🤪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Any time I see Happy Holidays I read it in an insufferable American accent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Cadburys is awful since Krafts took over anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    ****ing Christians, always telling me I should be merry. Don't force your moods on me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    Santa is a tyrant, it's about time we stopped his influence on the world. I will gladly fight in this war


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    RayM wrote: »
    There is no war on C****tmas.

    Ok, who censored my post???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭Den14


    Happy Xmas everybody! Everyone get shopping and eating and drinking to excess till your money is spent for January. Aww isn't it just lovely!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    Den14 wrote: »
    Happy Xmas everybody! Everyone get shopping and eating and drinking to excess till your money is spent for January. Aww isn't it just lovely!?

    I can't wait to be broke in January


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    RayM wrote: »
    It's a case of businesses wanting to market their products to as many people as possible. There is no war on C****tmas.

    I like to think you meant c*ntmass.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Merry Christmas!

    it's offensive to say 'Happy Holidays', sure what about about the people who are only just 'merry' due the drink and pies, but not actually 'happy'.
    And all those who void their 'holidays' this time of year, through choice or demand on their services, they're technically holiday-less.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    They should just cut the BS and call it Happy Merry Consumerism!

    I know.... I'm, like, SO edgy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Of all the sad tropes from righties, the whole war on Christmas thing has to be the most hilarious. Christmas has never been bigger. It is literally eating half the year, insane amounts of decorations, work does, socialising etc.

    If you want to talk about a war, lets talk about the real war, the war on Halloween. Resist Christmas! Defend Halloween!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭BeardySi


    People have said happy holidays and seasons greetings for decades, and probably even longer. It's nothing new. Nobody gave a toss until right wing snowflakes began looking for reasons to be offended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Because of the Donald we can say Happy Xmas again.

    Remember that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,645 ✭✭✭✭namenotavailablE


    If we're declaring war on Christmas, we could probably try have an arrest warrant issued for all the breaking & entering done by Santa Claus too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    This is nothing new. 10 years ago, the company I worked for, we were only allowed to say Happy Christmas if the customer said it first, other wise it was Happy Holidays, just incase it was a none Christian and it caused offence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Because of the Donald we can say Happy Xmas again.

    Remember that.

    I actually didn't believe in Santa until Donald's daring commando mission to save him from the Muslim grinches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    A lot of multicultural countries use the slogan..I guess ireland is one of those countries now, I don't think its a big deal, I seriously doubt any non christians are offended by it but its polite. Or more likely a gimmick to increase sales

    But I know a lot of normal americans and canadians who say happy holidays out of habit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭server down


    RayM wrote: »
    It's a case of businesses wanting to market their products to as many people as possible. There is no war on C****tmas.

    There’s a Christmas war on November.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭server down


    BailMeOut wrote: »
    this time of year was celebrated long before it was Christmas.

    Not really in Ireland. Midwinter wasn’t big.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Of all the sad tropes from righties, the whole war on Christmas thing has to be the most hilarious. Christmas has never been bigger. It is literally eating half the year, insane amounts of decorations, work does, socialising etc.

    If you want to talk about a war, lets talk about the real war, the war on Halloween. Resist Christmas! Defend Halloween!

    Halloween really is dying I feel like I see less and less decorations up each year:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,556 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Didn't/don't Cadbury's have a box of sweets called Season's Greetings?

    That's just advertising ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Didn't/don't Cadbury's have a box of sweets called Season's Greetings?

    That's just advertising ;)
    When I was growing in the 70s and 80s, Lemon's Sweets always had 'Seasons Greetings' on them. It was the main thing I remember about them, apart from the fact that there are only so many boiled sweets you should eat.

    Essentials5.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,849 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I think the also dropped the word Easter!


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm all for a War On Christmas if it means an end to the Gender War, or even Robot Wars.

    We could just give peace a chance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    So I was driving by the Cadburys factory in Coolock and they have a big sign there for passing motorists... "Seasons Greetings" and some such.

    Seasons Greetings has been in use in Ireland for decades (edit: I see as far back as Dickens according to someone else) . It's the Happy Holidays thing that gets me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    I think the also dropped the word Easter!

    Nope.

    https://easter.cadbury.ie/closed


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    When I was growing in the 70s and 80s, Lemon's Sweets always had 'Seasons Greetings' on them. It was the main thing I remember about them, apart from the fact that there are only so many boiled sweets you should eat.

    Essentials5.jpg

    God they bring back memories, do they still exist?

    Anyway, who cares what they say? It's an exercise in consumerism.
    Wouldn't it be nice if people could come together as a group and just say no, and stop buying useless crap, even just for one Christmas? It should be about family and friends and kindness, not buying things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    God they bring back memories, do they still exist?

    Anyway, who cares what they say? It's an exercise in consumerism.
    Wouldn't it be nice if people could come together as a group and just say no, and stop buying useless crap, even just for one Christmas? It should be about family and friends and kindness, not buying things.

    Maybe some Bond villain could torpedo a bunch of the cargo ships making their way over from the Pearl River Delta. That would put a stop to a lot of the messing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    God they bring back memories, do they still exist?

    Anyway, who cares what they say? It's an exercise in consumerism.
    Wouldn't it be nice if people could come together as a group and just say no, and stop buying useless crap, even just for one Christmas? It should be about family and friends and kindness, not buying things.

    +1

    No more presents would not change Christmas for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    wakka12 wrote: »
    A lot of multicultural countries use the slogan..I guess ireland is one of those countries now, I don't think its a big deal, I seriously doubt any non christians are offended by it but its polite. Or more likely a gimmick to increase sales

    But I know a lot of normal americans and canadians who say happy holidays out of habit.

    Does this multicult thing demand though that majority natives bend over on everything?
    Because you have places like Dubai that can have a star treky feel with diversity on their streets etc., but they don't feel any need to move furniture around for newcomers.
    Nor should they in my book. Calling Christmas, well Christmas, doesn't actually negatively impact on anybody's life, no matter who they are so I wouldn't even say it is anything to do with politeness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Seasons Greetings has been in use in Ireland for decades (edit: I see as far back as Dickens according to someone else) . It's the Happy Holidays thing that gets me.

    I have a Christmas Card here from the 1890's that says 'Season's Greetings'. So not a PC issue at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    I shall remind ye olde gentlemen, that there has always been war on Christmas. Why one of the most popular festive tunes around is 'Stop the Calvary'. Hand in hand they go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭tom_k


    I have a Christmas Card here from the 1890's that says 'Season's Greetings'. So not a PC issue at all.

    And I'd heard An Post had improved their delivery times :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    So I was driving by the Cadburys factory in Coolock and they have a big sign there for passing motorists... "Seasons Greetings" and some such.

    Seeing a lot of "Happy Holidays" etc also. Is this simply a case of Businesses being overly PC at this time of year? Are they afraid they are going to offend someone by saying "Merry Christmas". If so, who are they offending :confused:

    As long as I can still not go to work and stuff my face with Celebrations and cans on the big day, it doesn't effect my life what they call it one way or another.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Of all the sad tropes from righties, the whole war on Christmas thing has to be the most hilarious. Christmas has never been bigger. It is literally eating half the year, insane amounts of decorations, work does, socialising etc.

    If you want to talk about a war, lets talk about the real war, the war on Halloween. Resist Christmas! Defend Halloween!

    Surely the righties are the ones waging the war on Christmas.

    Big bad capitalists hijacking a religious holiday and turning it into a spendathon.

    Come January the poor plebs they fleece are up to their eyeballs in debt.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tom_k wrote: »
    And I'd heard An Post had improved their delivery times :D

    Well. That's my day made :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,191 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Not really in Ireland. Midwinter wasn’t big.

    So insignificant they built Newgrange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I like the term Happy Christmas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 415 ✭✭falinn merking


    So I was driving by the Cadburys factory in Coolock and they have a big sign there for passing motorists... "Seasons Greetings" and some such.

    Seeing a lot of "Happy Holidays" etc also. Is this simply a case of Businesses being overly PC at this time of year? Are they afraid they are going to offend someone by saying "Merry Christmas". If so, who are they offending :confused:

    Here is another reason these firms don't like Christmas it is the idea of giving that kills them.

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    I guess the most offensive thing about the Christian message to sweet manufactures is the story about Jesus with the fish and the loafs.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Since Cadbury are responsible for vast majority of most revolting chocolate available around Christmas (and Easter) their greetings are the least offensive part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I happen to like Cadburys chocolate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    topper75 wrote: »
    Does this multicult thing demand though that majority natives bend over on everything?
    Because you have places like Dubai that can have a star treky feel with diversity on their streets etc., but they don't feel any need to move furniture around for newcomers.
    Nor should they in my book. Calling Christmas, well Christmas, doesn't actually negatively impact on anybody's life, no matter who they are so I wouldn't even say it is anything to do with politeness.

    A lot of natives aren’t linked to the foreign cult of Christianity.

    Plenty of Chrimbo trees in Dubai so relax there.

    Anyway fck Christmas. It declared war on our native midwinter celebrations.

    Revenge is a dish best served cold!! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman




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