Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018

Talisman

fyfe79 wrote: »

Karius was absolute garbage. He's been given chance after chance and shows nothing. Saves less than Mig. Everton had one shot on target and he just looked at it sail past him. A world class keeper MAY have saved it, but a good keeper WOULD have at least dived at it. Karius is neither. Terrified to command his box too, VVD had to ball him out twice for the same slugishness. Can't understand how he received such accolades in Germany... he must have really gone backwards.

Totally overblown reaction - He has 5 clean sheets in 8 appearances this season. There are bigger problems than Karius to be resolved with the defence - Virgil's commanding presence may go a long way to resolving some of them.

If Virgil is given a decent centre back partner to work with then the goalkeeper may not prove to be the big issue to resolve.

Osmosis Jones

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/949395316633227266

Breaking | AS Monaco "could be tempted" to sell Thomas Lemar this month, according to tomorrow's L'uipe. Claims Arsenal will look to Lemar to replace Alexis Sanchez if the latter leaves.

Well that's a slightly different tone to "no major sales in January"

martyos121

Really hope these Mahrez rumours go away quickly, and that’s coming from someone who rates him very highly. He oozes quality and would improve the attack of nearly any team on the planet but he just isn’t quite right for us from a defensive standpoint. I’d echo what others have said about Demarai Gray, he’s the Leicester winger I’d have at the club any day of the week, but he’s better off spending another couple of seasons there to fully develop.

Ryan Sessegnon is the one I’d really hope we go all out for though, doesn’t fancy a move away from London apparently but you can only hope Sheyi Ojo is doing his best to convince him to come up north. Every big club that misses out on him will regret it the same way they did with Dele Alli, I’m sure of it. His talent at such a young age is absolutely frightening, and he can play anywhere on the left side of the pitch.

Osmosis Jones

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/949395316633227266



Well that's a slightly different tone to "no major sales in January"

It's August all over again :pac:

ERG89

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/949408196455796741


https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/949419270596890625


All speculation obviously but rather put it here than the transfer thread which is a bit petty atm

Is Mahrez a Klopp type player? Wouldn't have thought so.

Agent Coulson

Fcuk it buy both of them.

BorneTobyWilde

gafferino wrote: »

Meh totally disagree - Lallana has never looked World class. I like him, he’s a good player but no chance is he world class and won’t ever be.

He was world class for a period of time under Klopp. Average always under Rodgers, he had an amazing spell under Klopp where is was praised game in game out for his brilliance. It was a short lived spell of being world class.

martyos121

ERG89 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/949408196455796741


https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/949419270596890625


All speculation obviously but rather put it here than the transfer thread which is a bit petty atm

I’ll cry if we go for Mahrez when Lemar is there for the taking. Both class players but one is much younger, more versatile and seemingly wants to play for us. Monaco are a selling club anyway, that’s their business model, it makes sense to go for him and not be held to ransom by yet another Premier League club. £90m is actually reasonable value for Lemar to be fair, in this market.

Harry Palmr

Hey I borked that news first, even included the source and a slightly wonky translation :mad:

I'm coming around to Mahrez if only to get another player Man Utd could actually make good use of.

HandsomeBob

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/949395316633227266



Well that's a slightly different tone to "no major sales in January"

Translation: they'll be holding us to ransome because they know what might be coming our way. The apparent price is generous as is for a player that wouldn't be a direct replacement for Coutinho.

Should be giving this one a wide berth.

ricero

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Fcuk it buy both of them.

Why not ? One now and one in the summer. Money is there.

Talisman

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Well that's a slightly different tone to "no major sales in January"

It was reported that Liverpool had an offer for Lemar accepted in August before being gazumped by Arsenal. Monaco could be stalling until the Sanchez situation at Arsenal is resolved in the hope that they also renew their interest in the player.

fyfe79

Talisman wrote: »

Totally overblown reaction - He has 5 clean sheets in 8 appearances this season. There are bigger problems than Karius to be resolved with the defence - Virgil's commanding presence may go a long way to resolving some of them.

If Virgil is given a decent centre back partner to work with then the goalkeeper may not prove to be the big issue to resolve.

Fair enough, but has Karius contributed majorly to those 5 clean sheets? How many saves did he make?

I'll agree that we have bigger concerns elsewhere - a top defensively minded midfielder should be top of the wanted list. But, imo, a top keeper is next on the list.

j8wk2feszrnpao

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Some fans are idiots. Why attack Shearer about his opinion, who cares.

Well, attacking his family is bang out of order.

But Shearer will attract criticism when he is two faced.
Tonight, "not a pen", "it's a physical game", "you can use your hands on someone", etc....
Yet, he said a clear pen for the Lovern one.

As inconsistent as the refs he criticizes.

emo72

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

He was world class for a period of time under Klopp. Average always under Rodgers, he had an amazing spell under Klopp where is was praised game in game out for his brilliance. It was a short lived spell of being world class.

hes only back after been out for a couple of months. he can get good again.

Harry Palmr

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Hey I borked that news first, even included the source and a slightly wonky translation :mad:

I'm coming around to Mahrez if only to get another player Man Utd could actually make good use of.

Mourinho would hardly play to his strengths. Negative dour football.

Arsenal might be a good fit if Sanchez leaves.

ricero

Seems like some of mr holgates homophobic tweets have come to light tonight after the derby. He has since deleted his twitter account.

Osmosis Jones

It's Twitter, if you've got a big name you'll get abuse for saying anything, the fans acting up on there are idiots, but everyone knows that, it's not new or exclusive to any one group. Shearer's trying to make a far bigger deal out of it than there seems to be.

Mr.H

Brady Freezing Guru wrote:

As inconsistent as the refs he criticizes.

He is a tool but there is no need to even try to engage with him. People need to not be so quick to attack Muppet's like shearer

HandsomeBob

ricero wrote: »

Seems like some of mr holgates homophobic tweets have come to light tonight after the derby. He has since deleted his twitter account.

Wow. Wasn't expecting that. Impressed with the ruthlessness.

Turtyturd

ricero wrote: »

Seems like some of mr holgates homophobic tweets have come to light tonight after the derby. He has since deleted his twitter account.

It’ll be twisted to say he did it because of Liverpool fans.

Harry Palmr

The squad are flying out to Dubai for a quickie - Coutinho is not on the plane

Osmosis Jones

The tweets from Holgate don't really matter, not exactly saying nice things but he was 15, kids are idiots.

j8wk2feszrnpao

Mr.H wrote: »

He is a tool but there is no need to even try to engage with him. People need to not be so quick to attack Muppet's like shearer

It's Twitter. There are people that are total scum bags (criminally); and it allows a method for them to message you. I don't know why anyone in the celeb world would have it open for anyone to post towards them.

j8wk2feszrnpao

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Shearer's trying to make a far bigger deal out of it than there seems to be.

The people attacking his family are only too delighted that he read it and it riled him up.
Block and move on.

Talisman

Turtyturd wrote: »

It’ll be twisted to say he did it because of Liverpool fans.

Liverpool's army of "internet terrorists" strike again! Maybe he could form a support group with Tom Hicks and George Gillett.

razorblunt

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Well, attacking his family is bang out of order.

But Shearer will attract criticism when he is two faced.
Tonight, "not a pen", "it's a physical game", "you can use your hands on someone", etc....
Yet, he said a clear pen for the Lovern one.

As inconsistent as the refs he criticizes.

The personal attacks are unwarranted of course but Shearer is a pundit who needs to ensure there’s talking points for tv and radio at the BBC so is only happy to stir the pot when needed.
He’s flip flopped on the penalties and he’s also said there shouldn’t be TMOs while he himself waits for multi angle slowed down relays before calling any5hing in hindsight.

What did Mason Holgate say on Twitter?

j8wk2feszrnpao

razorblunt wrote: »

The personal attacks are warranted of course but Shearer is a pundit who needs to ensure there’s talking points for tv and radio at the BBC so is only happy to stir the pot when needed.
He’s flip flopped on the penalties and he’s also said there shouldn’t be TMOs while he himself waits for multi angle slowed down relays before calling any5hing in hindsight.

I'm guessing you meant "aren't warranted"

Agent Coulson

I have a feeling the Ox and VVD are going to combine for a few move set piece goals before the end of the season.

j8wk2feszrnpao

RoboKlopp wrote: »

What did Mason Holgate say on Twitter?

https://twitter.com/IrishRED05?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Utopia Parkway

L'Equipe saying Liverpool have made contact with Leicester about Mahrez.

HandsomeBob

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

The tweets from Holgate don't really matter, not exactly saying nice things but he was 15, kids are idiots.

Holgate was out of order tonight and Firmino's reputation as a person is at stake here so for me, all's fair and all that. No time for being soft. A 15 year old is hardly a kid not understanding what he's saying.

Agent Coulson

Tweets from 6 years ago he was what 14/15 years of age.


The sh1t I said at that age I would be locked up for today but I grew up and learned not to say sh1t like that.

BorneTobyWilde

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/roberto-firmino-facing-fa-probe-11805211

Turtyturd

Mirror saying it was a ‘misunderstanding’ on Holgate’s part, and was cleared up by Everton staff at half time.

Should be some kind of ban for throwing around an accusation like that if it’s the case.

fyfe79

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

L'Equipe saying Liverpool have made contact with Leicester about Mahrez.

I'd take Schmeichel from them too, tbh. And Gray, for sure.

Let's just make Leicester our new Southampton....

j8wk2feszrnpao

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/roberto-firmino-facing-fa-probe-11805211

"Television evidence suggests however, that Holgate was mistaken, with pictures appearing to show Firmino apparently mouthing a Portuguese phrase “loco puta”, which roughly translates as ‘crazy mother******."

HandsomeBob

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Tweets from 6 years ago he was what 14/15 years of age.


The sh1t I said at that age I would be locked up for today but I grew up and learned not to say sh1t like that.

I'm not going to get into a debate about what a 13 to 17 year old is capable of (I've a 15 year old nephew with a great head on his shoulders fwiw). As I said it's ugly stuff. But fact is Firmino's reputation is at stake much like Suarez's was. All is fair here.

monkey9

https://twitter.com/thekophq/status/949427807066755072

Pulsating Star

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Tweets from 6 years ago he was what 14/15 years of age.


The sh1t I said at that age I would be locked up for today......

Say no more...:p

BorneTobyWilde

Television evidence suggests however, that Holgate was mistaken, with pictures appearing to show Firmino apparently mouthing a Portuguese phrase “loco puta”, which roughly translates as ‘Puta bit butter on the spuds Andre ''

BorneTobyWilde

''FA to investigate whether Everton's Mason Holgate was radically amused by Liverpool forward Roberto Firmino ''

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/01/05/fa-investigate-whether-evertons-mason-holgate-racially-abused/

Seems everyone is running with it.

It seems the ref went to report incident to 4th Official, that was what he was doing during match, reporting the allegation.

Agent Coulson

Any chance they can investigate Holgate for reckless endangerment for pushing Firmino into the crowd and the ref for not carding him.

Utopia Parkway

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

''FA to investigate whether Everton's Mason Holgate was radically amused by Liverpool forward Roberto Firmino ''

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/01/05/fa-investigate-whether-evertons-mason-holgate-racially-abused/

Seems everyone is running with it.

It seems the ref went to report incident to 4th Official, that was what he was doing during match, reporting the allegation.

Madeley literally had his head in between the pair of them. If anything was said he would have heard it.

Think it's fairly clear that Firmino said "puta" in some form or other.

Is Holgate going to get his card for shoving someone over the advertising hoardings and into the crowd? Which was both unprovoked and dangerous.

Osmosis Jones

Firmino's just lucky he wasn't pushed into the Everton fans or some aul lad with his infant son on his shoulder would start laying into him.

Morzadec

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

''FA to investigate whether Everton's Mason Holgate was radically amused by Liverpool forward Roberto Firmino ''

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/01/05/fa-investigate-whether-evertons-mason-holgate-racially-abused/

Seems everyone is running with it.

It seems the ref went to report incident to 4th Official, that was what he was doing during match, reporting the allegation.

It's a non story, even with my very limited Portuguese it's very very clear what firmino says.

I doubt Holgate speaks Portuguese.

A mixup.

Holgate can just come out and apologise for the accusation and everyone move on.

monkey9

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Any chance they can investigate Holgate for reckless endangerment for pushing Firmino into the crowd and the ref for not carding him.

He could have murdered him

BorneTobyWilde

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Television evidence suggests however, that Holgate was mistaken, with pictures appearing to show Firmino apparently mouthing a Portuguese phrase “loco puta”, which roughly translates as ‘Puta bit butter on the spuds Andre ''

:pac: