Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018

BorneTobyWilde

Aubameyang would be great with Firmino dropping deeper, as he tends to do anyway.

BorneTobyWilde

Mahrez ? It's like someone at Liverpool is looking at forums like this and think ''hmmm Mahrez, good idea''

FixitFelix

SlickRic wrote: »

Joyce has said Mahrez's medical is tomorrow.

£49m.

I actually hadn't seen that.

Great signing for Liverpool, would have loved him at Arsenal but was too obvious for us!

Fromvert

I like Mahrez and although he's not what we need to replace Coutinho at £50m I'd take him. I'm a big believer that you can never have too many attackers

SlickRic

FixitFelix wrote: »

Great signing for Liverpool, would have loved him at Arsenal but was too obvious for us!

It's not happened. Arsenal might still. The info i posted was from a fake account.

Sono

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Mahrez ? It's like someone at Liverpool is looking at forums like this and think ''hmmm Mahrez, good idea''

Or else they see he is a quality player which he is and having a great season and is looking for another club, but you could be right also.

DVDM93

I just can't see us getting back from this tbh, it's almost impossible.

At this point, no one is giving us a chance and it's hard to blame them.

We're 3-0 down against arguably the best team in the world. Kaka & Crespo are absolutely cutting through us and we've to hit a MINIMUM of 3 goals without reply to be even in with a chance and even at that, we'd need more in the tank to actually go and win the thing.

Let's face it lads, we need a miracle here.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Add ons to the Coutinho deal

£4.4mil every 25 games up to 100 games; £4.4mil next two champions league qualifications and another £4.4mil if they win it.

That's a lot better than i though - you'd imagine most of that could come in the next year / 18 months

(source - Guardian)

BorneTobyWilde

Sono wrote: »

Or else they see he is a quality player which he is and having a great season and is looking for another club, but you could be right also.

It's so obvious, it comes across as a impulse buy. It's like we are walking out of a supermarket with 105m and seeing Mahrez at the checkout .

Charlie19

DVDM93 wrote: »

I just can't see us getting back from this tbh, it's almost impossible.

At this point, no one is giving us a chance and it's hard to blame them.

We're 3-0 down against arguably the best team in the world. Kaka & Crespo are absolutely cutting through us and we've to hit a MINIMUM of 3 goals without reply to be even in with a chance and even at that, we'd need more in the tank to actually go and win the thing.

Let's face it lads, we need a miracle here.

NukaCola

Mahrez is quality, versatile, dynamic and has all the tools to play well in our team, no doubt about it. Get him for the rumoured fee and I'll be happy enough.

BorneTobyWilde

Coutinho had 12 goals this season,and was on course for his best goal return yet. I can't see Milner, Can, or Henderson giving us 12 goals between them in second half of season.
Our midfield has 3 Mr Sideways now. No use buying a front 3 type player when Coutinho was in midfield this season, we need a midfielder before this window closes.

Osmosis Jones

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Coutinho had 12 goals this season,and was on course for his best goal return yet. I can't see Milner, Can, or Henderson giving us 12 goals between them in second half of season.
Our midfield has 3 Mr Sideways now. No use buying a front 3 type player when Coutinho was in midfield this season, we need a midfielder before this window closes.

I'm really confused as to where people think Coutinho has played this season, because he has most definitely not played in positions that would otherwise be occupied by Milner, Can, or Henderson.

HandsomeBob

Can Mahrez play in the centre similar to Coutinho? I'd be nervous if Klopp wasn't looking at a CM in this window.

Fromvert

Firmino with Salah/Mane/Mahrez behind could work in plenty of games. Or in games where we have one or even two of those four coming off the bench in the last 30 minutes are great options.

Fowler87

Mahrez will be a good addition. However has anyone wtf we'll do when the African Cup comes around again:eek:

Edit: Unless the schedule for that has been changed to a summer tournament?

Agent Coulson

Mahrez PL proven and PL winner and African player of the year last season for £50m I'm ok with that.


Do any of the African Countries do defenders or Keepers??

Agent Coulson

Fowler87 wrote: »

Mahrez will be a good addition. However has anyone wtf we'll do when the African Cup comes around again:eek:

It's been moved to the summer from now on.

BorneTobyWilde

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

I'm really confused as to where people think Coutinho has played this season, because he has most definitely not played in positions that would otherwise be occupied by Milner, Can, or Henderson.

He started and one of them was on bench typically, yes now with Lallana and Ox stepping up we have options, but I do recall games starting with Milner Can and Henderson when Coutinho was out.

Irishmale0399

Anyone who thinks the deal or better said talking started between Liverpool and Barca last week should waken up. You can be sure the deal was 85% agreed during the summer and Klopp told Couts....get your finger out and play your heart out until Xmas or they wont want you anymore.

That gave the club a few months to get a replacment line up or to look at options and make it look like they fought to keep the player.

Just the same as it gave the club the chance to announce the VVD deal very early, let him make his debut and only then announce the sale. That deal was also agreed a long time ago.....welcome to the wonderful world of Klopp and FSG. They are running the club as a business and seen an unhappy asset, who maybe could cause problems in the background and took a profit of 130 odd million. How they invest it or work with it we will have to see, but its all about making the club self suffient

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Fowler87 wrote: »

Mahrez will be a good addition. However has anyone wtf we'll do when the African Cup comes around again:eek: Edit: Unless the schedule for that has been changed to a summer tournament?

Enjoy our summer??

Talisman

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Coutinho had 12 goals this season,and was on course for his best goal return yet. I can't see Milner, Can, or Henderson giving us 12 goals between them in second half of season.
Our midfield has 3 Mr Sideways now. No use buying a front 3 type player when Coutinho was in midfield this season, we need a midfielder before this window closes.

He played most of his games on the left wing and the others behind the forward player. Definitely not a midfield player.

Osmosis Jones

HandsomeBob wrote: »

Can Mahrez play in the centre similar to Coutinho? I'd be nervous if Klopp wasn't looking at a CM in this window.

Klopp's spoken about Salah being able to play the 10 a few times, also wouldn't be surprised to see Salah up top with Firmino behind and Mahrez and Mane on the wings.

Agent Coulson

If I wasn't in work I'd be drinking a few sangria's.

No time to grieve for @LFC let's be positive as the team look strong and players could arrive soon !! #YNWA

https://twitter.com/luchogarcia14/status/949742884336603136

Fitz*

Fowler87 wrote: »

Mahrez will be a good addition. However has anyone wtf we'll do when the African Cup comes around again:eek:

Edit: Unless the schedule for that has been changed to a summer tournament?

Agent Coulson wrote: »

It's been moved to the summer from now on.

There is actually 2 now as far as I know.

One in the summer for the 'better' players like your Mane, Keita, Mahrez, Salah's etc, and one in the normal January timeframe for domestic-based players.

DVDM93

Keeping Suarez will be the best bit of business Rodgers has done since arriving at the club, imo.

citytillidie

lol at the thread they try to start so bad it was funny out of the League up and outside the top 4 even though they are in the top 4

Ardent

Probably on my own here but I'm not that upset about losing Coutinho. The guy improved a lot in the last couple of seasons but always blew hot and cold. This is not a Suarez-level loss and the fee we get is fantastic.

Confident Klopp and the club will invest the money wisely, as they have done recently.

Fitz*

Also going to go out on a limb and say that Liverpool have no interest in Mahrez.... before the 10.30 twitter news

j8wk2feszrnpao

citytillidie wrote: »

lol at the thread they try to start so bad it was funny out of the League up and outside the top 4 even though they are in the top 4

Yip, blinded by hatred

garra

SlickRic wrote: »

I've seen a lot of Barca journos salivating, calling Coutinho the long term successor to Iniesta.

Coutinho is brilliant, but he's nothing like Iniesta.

Coutinho has never controlled a game in his life. Coutinho is a player of magic moments, pieces of play that change games.

That's what they're buying.

Basically (and he's not nearly as good as either of these players)...he's more Neymar than he is Xavi.

You have it the wrong way round. He is leaving to a club where he can control the game, his role at LFC lately did not stipulate trying to control games but I do recall him taking on that role under Rodgers for a spell and doing well.

j8wk2feszrnpao

garra wrote: »

You have it the wrong way round. He is leaving to a club where he can control the game, his role at LFC lately did not stipulate trying to control games but I do recall him taking on that role under Rodgers for a spell and doing well.

Don’t remember him every dominate a game from the middle. Barca might be disappointed if they play him in that role.

Osmosis Jones

Even the "reliable" journalists have been in the dark on everything since the tapping up scandal, nothing was really out before we signed Keita or van Dijk and I'd imagine that'll be the same with whoever we sign next.

Fitz*

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Don’t remember him every dominate a game from the middle. Barca might be disappointed if they play him in that role.

West Ham away last year when we had to win to get top 4.

j8wk2feszrnpao

FitzShane wrote: »

West Ham away last year when we had to win to get top 4.

Don’t think he dominated the game, not like the way Iniesta has done for more than a decade.
But maybe they want him as a front 3, and drop into mid at times. Won’t know until we see it.

ThunbergsAreGo

munstermagic11 wrote: »

FitzShane wrote: »

West Ham away last year when we had to win to get top 4.

Don’t think he dominated the game, not like the way Iniesta has done for more than a decade.
But maybe they want him as a front 3, and drop into mid at times. Won’t know until we see it.

He is better than Iniesta ever was in my opinion

Talisman

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Do any of the African Countries do defenders or Keepers??

Andre Onana (Cameroon) plays for Ajax is probably the best of the current generation but that's not saying much.

PhuckHugh

SlickRic wrote: »

I've seen a lot of Barca journos salivating, calling Coutinho the long term successor to Iniesta.

Coutinho is brilliant, but he's nothing like Iniesta.

Coutinho has never controlled a game in his life. Coutinho is a player of magic moments, pieces of play that change games.

That's what they're buying.

Basically (and he's not nearly as good as either of these players)...he's more Neymar than he is Xavi.

This.

Said the same earlier myself -- He's not a massive loss in the grand scheme of things and that's an a phenomenal deal for a player that has as many average games as he does good games. The physical nature of the league doesnt really suit him tbh but he's no where near a loss such as Suarez was or if we had lost Gerrard in his pomp - He's a good player, not a great player.

BorneTobyWilde

Goals since August 2015:
R. Mahrez (30)
P. Coutinho (28)
E. Hazard (26)

Assists since August 2015:
R. Mahrez (21)
P. Coutinho (18)
E. Hazard (10)

Osmosis Jones

naughtb4 wrote: »

He is better than Iniesta ever was in my opinion

Ah now.

Talisman

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Throw Leicester another £50m for Demarai Gray.

£30M - He's cup tied for the FA Cup which is our best opportunity of a trophy this season.

Osmosis Jones

He's certainly got a Liverpool haircut.

Fromvert

naughtb4 wrote: »

He is better than Iniesta ever was in my opinion

Let's not be crazy here!

Iused2likebusts

Sad day with coutinho going. I didn't think there was a chance it would happen till the summer. Losing our best player but not our most important player. I feel firmino or salah would be a bigger loss to klopp. We have had some great attacking performances without coutinho this year . Personally I think we generally looked better when only 3 of the so called fab 4 played. The biggest problem I see now is if any of salah,mane,firmino get injured. Mahrez would be a signing I think could work. He would be highly motivated getting a move to Liverpool would be huge for him and I think he could play anywhere across the front 4 and could step in for any of the other 3. He also has goals/assists in his game unlike the likes of llalana/ox. His ability to run at players like coutinho would help open up space.

BorneTobyWilde

Wasn't there info earlier in day that Liverpool had contacted Leicester directly to tell them they
had no interest in Mahrez and to ignore media.

Agent Coulson

I was more upset when Souness, Rush ,Aldridge, Beardsley, Houghton, McManaman, & Torres left.

j8wk2feszrnpao

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Wasn't there info earlier in day that Liverpool had contacted Leicester directly to tell them they
had no interest in Mahrez and to ignore media.

There was speculation.
Now it’s he’s signing for £49m.
Tomorrow it’ll be something else.

~Rebel~

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

We need to insist on crazy 400m buyout clause like Barca do. That is the world we live in now. Buy a young classy player and give him a 250m buyout clause. We need to spend now.

I don't think we include buyout clauses anymore anyway. No buyout clause is obviously preferably to even a huge buyout clause.


Disappointed about Coutinho, shame we don't get to see him in red again. Salah and Mane and Firmino are amazing players, but Coutinho was the best. And I think his loss will impact us more that some people think. So often it's his quick transition of play that sets Salah and Mane off into space. Or his stunning linkups with Firmino. Or even just how much attention he demands from the opposition, freeing up our other attackers. We'll miss him a lot.

But Klopp has done well with signings so far. I've been annoyed at his lack of action in the market sometimes, but to e fair to him, when he acts, he's usually proven right. So i'll have faith in whoever he brings in.

Fromvert

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Wasn't there info earlier in day that Liverpool had contacted Leicester directly to tell them they
had no interest in Mahrez and to ignore media.

That made no sense. Why contact them to say you're not interested. Then the guy on Twitter said it was because they didn't want a VVD incident again.

The VVD stuff only happened because we were persuing him and got caught! If we're not after him we can't get caught doing something.

5starpool

This mahrez stuff doesn't seem true to me.