Nightclubs - Why?

ArtSmart

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Too many regulations and conformity.

Continental clubs are usually only getting going at about 2am, when the Irish ones are required to start closing. They also tend to have quieter areas where you can actually have a bit of a break and talk to someone. Kitkat club in Berlin has a sauna. I also found that the clubs in Dublin (when I went) all seemed to have the same kind of DJs, music, decor, clientele, drinks and so on.

Yes, England and Ireland have a different, em, approach.

The aul Ceili - ha? God be with the days....

Personally I blame the Beatles. For everything.

Esel

"Are yeh coming into the field?"

Anesthetize

Mister Vain wrote: »

Or having to claw your way through a cloud of smoke to reach the bar. And then the smell of smoke off your clothes afterwards.

Ah bliss, the good old days.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

ArtSmart wrote: »

Yes, England and Ireland have a different, em, approach.

The aul Ceili - ha? God be with the days....

Personally I blame the Beatles. For everything.

Honestly not sure what you're trying to say here: either you disagree with my point (in which case, fine - but please elaborate: what clubs in Ireland would you regard as being in contrast to my points? And how so?); you're being blindly loyal to nationality (in which case, why do you need to automatically defend something?); or you agree with me but have a strange way of saying it (beatles?? )

chrissb8

Night clubs in Ireland are pure s**t. Dublin has some which are excellent but they're usually filled with people who want to be somewhere for a certain type of music and vibe. Outside of that they're all very bog standard. Throw on a selection of bad chart music. Throw in the usual get drunk until you nearly can't stand crowd. Coupled with of course with more and more people who are mostly cretins and don't know how to function in a shared space without breaking into a fight or stumbling into people on the dance floor or as they're passing you with their round of shots they most certainly don't need at 2:20AM already beyond plastered. There is no fun to be had in these places.

I find it funny as well people talking about the OP not getting the ride. Whatever to anyone who does but in my one or two experiences I found it terrible. Concoction of drink, desperation and in general just a messy affair. Generic Irish nightclubs are not the place to find someone, good conversation, good music and in general a place where you can just be a bloody normal person in a reasonable civilised setting to socialise in. No thanks.

job seeker

This thread is really give me the urge to headout over the weekend.

I love heading out at night to night clubs. There'll be some much time to act like an OAP when you become one.

I never really understand people who give out about night clubs. If you don't like them, stay at home on a Friday night and watch the late late show or something..

Purple Mountain

It's because you chose to go out on possibly one of the messiest nights of the year!

dartboardio

In Waterford it's getting busier and busier. If you go to Shortts on a Wednesday or a Monday night during college months you literally can not move: there's drink being spilled everywhere, everyone's pushing eachother trying to get through. And the place is huge (including the nightclub upstairs) I'm a student and even I much prefer going there on a Saturday night when it's even a little bit quieter or you can actually walk through

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Too many regulations and conformity.

Continental clubs are usually only getting going at about 2am, when the Irish ones are required to start closing. They also tend to have quieter areas where you can actually have a bit of a break and talk to someone. Kitkat club in Berlin has a sauna. I also found that the clubs in Dublin (when I went) all seemed to have the same kind of DJs, music, decor, clientele, drinks and so on.

job seeker wrote: »

This thread is really give me the urge to headout over the weekend.

I love heading out at night to night clubs. There'll be some much time to act like an OAP when you become one.

I never really understand people who give out about night clubs. If you don't like them, stay at home on a Friday night and watch the late late show or something..

See post above.

I go to clubs occasionally and I've guessing I'm a good bit older than you. I just don't go to them when I'm back in Ireland for reasons I've outlined.

This isn't an anti-nightclub thread, it's an anti-****-nightclub thread.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

See post above.

I go to clubs occasionally and I've guessing I'm a good bit older than you. I just don't go to them when I'm back in Ireland for reasons I've outlined.

This isn't an anti-nightclub thread, it's an anti-****-nightclub thread.

I'd be similar to yourself. I still go to nightclubs abroad (I'm in my early 40s), but any time I've tried going to nightclubs here, I end up leaving in disgust. They're just not comparable to the better clubs you find in Europe's major cities or outside of Europe. My personal favorite nightclubs are in China, Japan, and the US.

Irish/UK clubs are too small, badly designed, dirty, and with rather limited choices in music (Djs). TBH I don't particularly enjoy the crowd that goes out to clubs in Ireland either. Too much focus on getting drunk, and general hostility.

dr.fuzzenstein

Ah nighclubs. I still remember the 90's when I was in my 20's.
Many's the time my then GF would drag me out every weekend, I had to drive so had to stay sober.
As someone who enjoys Beatles, Queen, Led Zep, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath and Marillion, I still fondly remember such great tunes as:

UNGF UNGF UNGF UNGF UNGF UNGF UNGF UNGF UNGF UNGF UNGF UNGF

and

BANZ BANZ BANZ BANZ BANZ BANZ BANZ BANZ BANZ BANZ BANZ

or who could ever forget

BOOMTSHH BOOMTSHH BOOMTSHH BOOMTSHH BOOMTSHH BOOMTSHH BOOMTSHH

And such great conversations as

Me: "IT'S SO LOUD IN HERE!!!"
Other: "WHAAAT?!"
Me: "I SAID IT'S SO LOUD IN HERE!!!"
Other: "SORRY, CAN'T HEAR YOU, IT'S TOO LOUD IN HERE!"

Ah yes, the memories...
Then I moved to Ireland, where there was the added pleasure of massive, heaving crowds, nowhere to sit, nowhere to stand for that matter, every toilet cubicle door kicked in, toilets covered in vomit, queuing half an hour to get in, queuing half an hour to get a drink and in some instances they closed the bar as soon as I got in when all I wanted was another drink cause I wasn't driving that night. Those were the best nights of all.
At least there were always a few amusing fights.

JupiterKid

Nightclubs in Ireland are generally complete sh*t for the reasons other posters outlined. Crappy pop music, far too loud, no imagination in terms of decor/layout, sweaty and claustrophobic, extremely drunk punters, rip off prices, scrum at the bar, aggression and fights and they all close too early. Around 2000 I stopped bothering with nightclubs and went to late bars instead.

Don't go at all now as my drinking days are behind me and don't miss it whatsoever.

snotboogie

Deleted User wrote: »

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

See post above.

I go to clubs occasionally and I've guessing I'm a good bit older than you. I just don't go to them when I'm back in Ireland for reasons I've outlined.

This isn't an anti-nightclub thread, it's an anti-****-nightclub thread.

I'd be similar to yourself. I still go to nightclubs abroad (I'm in my early 40s), but any time I've tried going to nightclubs here, I end up leaving in disgust. They're just not comparable to the better clubs you find in Europe's major cities or outside of Europe. My personal favorite nightclubs are in China, Japan, and the US.

Irish/UK clubs are too small, badly designed, dirty, and with rather limited choices in music (Djs). TBH I don't particularly enjoy the crowd that goes out to clubs in Ireland either. Too much focus on getting drunk, and general hostility.

Really? Haha Which ones? 
The old Vics in Beijing was a sight to behold but not always for the right reasons, same goes for Propaganda. Shelter in Shanghai has some great novelty value and some good DJ's. Richbaby and the other Louhu clubs in Shenzhen were also, an experience.... Other than that you just have the worst generic Chinese clubs with overpriced Chivas and ubiquitous bottle service tables with little or no space to stand around or dance.

Sir Henry's, Cork, early 90s. When people went clubbing, to enjoy the music, and don't think anyone really thought about the women, how often they could get to the bar, or whether they'd turn down the music so people could chat.

As Princess Consuela said, th problem is with **** nightclubs.

Mister Vain

I think the problem is more to do with our drinking culture more so than the nightclubs. I've had much better nights out in places like Holland, Spain and Czech Republic where people are generally not just drinking to get drunk. Even Irish bars abroad tend to be better than the ones we have here.

dr.fuzzenstein

It all depends on the type of nightclub, I detest the standard ones (UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ) and would prefer a more grungy type of establishment.
I remember being in Pilsen in a downstairs club/pub/disco sort of thing, it was dark, smoky and the music was just fabulous and so was the beer. At some stage they played Kashmir by Led Zeppelin. That beats Heineken and One Direction at 2000 db any day.
One day I found a place called Steinzeit (stone age) in Vienna in an area known as the Bermuda Triangle (because people go in and get lost for a few days), the barstools where beercrates piled on top of each other with a sheet of plywood as a seat.
Or try the Ritterkeller in Kempten.

badboyblast

The fact that you are all speaking about nightclubs in a capacity of people going there intoxicated and that being the sole priority is the reason why Ireland is backwards.

The Irish nightlife system needs an overhaul and Ireland needs more alternative venues with different licenses applied to them as at the moment everything is revolving around alcohol and this is wrong.

Some people want to hear a band , a DJ , etc etc and some people want to dance , everyone has different reasons to be in a club and not just get smashed but unfortunately we all have to pay the price for Ireland's love affair with alcohol and trying to stop people killing themselves on our governments watch .

badboyblast

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sir Henry's, Cork, early 90s. When people went clubbing, to enjoy the music, and don't think anyone really thought about the women, how often they could get to the bar, or whether they'd turn down the music so people could chat.

As Princess Consuela said, th problem is with **** nightclubs.

Very true , an alternative like Henry's is gone now , gone are the characters that used to go to clubs like this , everything is sterile now and generic , a shame really

FionnK86

I go to nightclubs to dance and enjoy myself. I've never been to a nightclub abroad, though I can imagine they would be better than Irish nightclubs.

job seeker

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

See post above.

I go to clubs occasionally and I've guessing I'm a good bit older than you. I just don't go to them when I'm back in Ireland for reasons I've outlined.

This isn't an anti-nightclub thread, it's an anti-****-nightclub thread.

That's fair enough. Although I was referring to the op's post.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Small town niteclubs can be very bleak places.

zmgakt7uw2dvfs

Great analysis here.

snotboogie

snotboogie wrote: »

Really? Haha Which ones? 
The old Vics in Beijing was a sight to behold but not always for the right reasons, same goes for Propaganda. Shelter in Shanghai has some great novelty value and some good DJ's. Richbaby and the other Louhu clubs in Shenzhen were also, an experience.... Other than that you just have the worst generic Chinese clubs with overpriced Chivas and ubiquitous bottle service tables with little or no space to stand around or dance.

True enough. I started loving clubs in China. They were so different to the Irish/UK clubs. Good looking clubs, and usually clean. Little to no fighting. No queuing at the bar. Table service and generally welcoming staff. No service charge for entry. Cloakrooms. And women that dressed up for a night out. I know... All pretty normal services/factors but often sadly lacking in Irish clubs.

I enjoyed all of the places you mentioned, although I lived mostly in Xian, which revolved around a few more somewhat generic type clubs (Salsa, Muse, and a host of others that disappeared every few years). Which were perfect for the weekly playtime, and then fly to HK or outside China for a longer weekend of fun.

But totally agree that the vast majority are generic and copycat everyone else that has even a little bit of success. China is still relatively new to the bar/nightclub scene considering the normal traditional attraction of KTV. I'd expect to see them develop into something far better in the main cities. And they did in the ten years I was there. They did improve (although get worse in other regards).

Still far better than the majority of clubs in UK/Ireland.

Herb Powell

Urindanger wrote: »

I much prefer drinking craft beer that's just been invented last week out of a hand crafted glass, blast chilled with vegan hydrogen molecules while sitting on the outskirts of a late bar listening to the latest underground indie band which are fabulous. Amongst our entourage are similar minded people who have been blessed with the finest quality of taste both palette and auditory. The party does not exist without our presence we jest.

Perhaps I'll have a bag of peanuts if they have the dry roast kind in stock and they were picked by cinnamon and nutmeg scented hands. If not, I'll avoid temptation and save myself for the hummus that I made from scratch with the finest imported tahini. I'll escort a woman of highest quality and demand back to my luxury apartment where I will seduce her with my collection of fine art which was made with vegan paint and hemp canvas.

This, but unironically

Deleted User wrote: »

Some people want the clubs wedged with people. Been there done that. Some people want the clubs with drugs being sold corridors, and people shooting up in the toilets. Grand. Or people want to 'freedom' of fights erupting in the club or outside. Good for you if you do. I don't. I've outgrown all that rubbish. I far prefer something with a bit of class, and some real money behind it.

Sounds boring. Then again I'm only a youngfella. Never understood the whole dress up to go out crowd, give me black jeans, a dark ****hole with cheap beer and progressive music any day!

Langston Wailing Sampler wrote: »

Great analysis here.

That man is a complete fuccking bean

Herb Powell

Herb Powell wrote: »

Sounds boring. Then again I'm only a youngfella. Never understood the whole dress up to go out crowd, give me black jeans, a dark ****hole with cheap beer and progressive music any day!

Just different interests. When I was in my 20's I did the outdoor raves in Europe and the UK. Good fun back then but the appeal wore off completely by the time I reached my 30s. Now that I'm in my 40s, I go to clubs to dance somewhat, meet people, and find women for general dating outside the clubs. I barely drink at all anymore. Priorities have shifted.

Dr Brown

The thing about nightclubs in Ireland is that most of them are just late bars pretending to be "nightclubs".

Dr Brown

Langston Wailing Sampler wrote: »

Great analysis here.

He makes alot of good points but you don't think logically at 1am in the morning after you have had 8 to 10 pints and are looking to get in somewhere else.

Mister Vain

Dr Brown wrote: »

He makes alot of good points but you don't think logically at 1am in the morning after you have had 8 to 10 pints and are looking to get in somewhere into someone else.

FYP.

But yeah most of what he says in that video is true.

danko82

For me it is just the main way to meet women as I am single..
I am in my middle 30s, I don't really like nightclub, but not sure where to meet women.

The sad thing is when I meet someone, usually she is drunk, then the day after she doesn't remember or she has boyfriend, etc...
sad story...

I would like to meet women during the day..not easy though

Schwanz

For me I went to nightclubs to dance & get wasted.

Loved & still love dance music & been to some of the best clubs in the world to hear the finest Djs.

Godskitchen Birmingham
Space Ibiza
Red Box/Tripod Dublin
Temple Theater Dublin


You'll always get the smaller kips that people go to just to pull. Wasn't me.

Cee-Jay-Cee

OP I feel the exact same way, the thought of going to a nightclub horrifies me but when I was young (from about 17 to 32) I was out several nights a week and in a nightclub at least 2 nights every weekend. The same shīt happened back then as does now, the only difference was that I was part of it back then.

21Savage

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

OP I feel the exact same way, the thought of going to a nightclub horrifies me but when I was young (from about 17 to 32) I was out several nights a week and in a nightclub at least 2 nights every weekend. The same shīt happened back then as does now, the only difference was that I was part of it back then.

Do you look 60? How did you sustain that?

As you were 21 S

Mutant z

Ive never set foot in a nightclub and i really couldnt care less its just not my thing never has been and never will be.

cbreeze

danko82 wrote: »

For me it is just the main way to meet women as I am single..
I am in my middle 30s, I don't really like nightclub, but not sure where to meet women.

The sad thing is when I meet someone, usually she is drunk, then the day after she doesn't remember or she has boyfriend, etc...
sad story...

I would like to meet women during the day..not easy though

Join a club: book, hill walking, film, any kind of sports club, volunteer for charity work, anywhere there are sober ladies with a positive outlook on life.

21Savage

danko82 wrote: »

For me it is just the main way to meet women as I am single..
I am in my middle 30s, I don't really like nightclub, but not sure where to meet women.

The sad thing is when I meet someone, usually she is drunk, then the day after she doesn't remember or she has boyfriend, etc...
sad story...

I would like to meet women during the day..not easy though

2018 boyo. Read it and weep. This is the dating game right now.

As you were, 21S. x

worded

Deleted User wrote: »

Nightclubs in Ireland tend to be an extension of the bar scene. TBh I always felt that nightclubs in Ireland were still one step away from a school organized dance or such. Struggles to get to the bar, no table service, etc. Too much focus on getting drunk, being an asshole (for both genders) and puking/fighting at the end.

OP. Don't judge all nightclubs by your experiences in Ireland. There are incredibly good nightclubs in other countries, and honestly, the attitudes of the people you meet are often far better. Personally, I disliked nightclubs in Ireland/Europe but got to love them in Asia and the bigger cities in the US. Nightclubs in Eastern Europe are also heaps of fun if you don't behave like an idiot foreigner. I also preferred the nightclubs that cost a bit more, had professional staff and 'encouraged' people not to make trouble. Good music, quality alcohol, and people dress up to go out (rather than arriving in a tracksuit)

Lastly, there are nightclubs that cater to different kinds of people/music. Play around and find something that suits. I tend to still go to the nightclubs with the more trance/electronic/disco feel, or the more expensive jazz fusion house clubs. Older crowd for the most part and no trouble. I'm in my early 40s and I still enjoy it. It's not just a scene for 20 somethings.

Can you name your fav clubs ?

bodhrandude

OP shop around, don't just go to Coppers or commercial dance clubs, I remember a superb nightclub in Glasgow called Radio City, it suited my taste in music psychedelic sixties and indie rock club, you could hear Syd Barrett, the Velvet Underground, Jesus and the Mary Chain, Nick Cave and the like. The Victoria hotel in Galway used to have a great night where you could hear DnB and Jungle music and like another poster mentioned of the Cork club Sir Henry's, Galway also had their Sir Henry's in the nineties, The Castle, there was a superb night called the Reggae Room which predated Electric Picnic's Trenchtown, aaaah the memories. I also find that you should check out some of the music festivals in the summer such as Body & Soul and Electric Picnic, its better to look at the live DJs and mad electronica, the dance floors or grounds less restricted and the music wilder and more interesting. Twisted Pepper (Although I think thats closed now) and Button Factory always had more eclectic dance music acts. Even Dublin festivals like Beatyard and Forbidden Fruit are worth checking out not to mention their after parties too.

JohnCleary

Irish nightclubs are a joke.

Been to some amazing ones in Berlin and Bangkok

danko82

21Savage wrote: »

2018 boyo. Read it and weep. This is the dating game right now.

As you were, 21S. x

sorry I don't understand what you mean... what does boyo mean ?..

21Savage

danko82 wrote: »

sorry I don't understand what you mean... what does boyo mean ?..

Like buddy, pal, mate, chap, lad, brah, bruv, homie, homes.

As you were, 21S x

Mister Vain

I love dance music but hate dancing. It just feels really awkward regardless of how drunk I am. It's also hard to strike up a conversation with someone because of the noise.

I managed to get the shift once in a nightclub but that was part of a dare. A group of women were out on a hen night. One of them said to the other, "I dare you to shift the next lad that walks in the door" which just happened to be me. Then there was another time where a group of women handcuffed me to the table and grabbed my balls. That's about as good as it got for me in nightclubs.

Steve F

danko82 wrote: »

sorry I don't understand what you mean... what does boyo mean ?..

Think it's a Welsh saying?
Correct me if wrong

Cee-Jay-Cee

21Savage wrote: »

Do you look 60? How did you sustain that?

As you were 21 S

No thankfully not. I really don’t know how I managed it to be honest, there was a period of about 8 years from my mid 20’s to early 30’s where it was incessant drinking during the week and night clubs at the weekend. There was always someone looking to head out at night and I had nothing else to do so accepted every invitation to go out drinking. Near the end of that period I was burned out and didn’t go out for nearly a year choosing to lie on the sofa and watch tv all night instead but I gradually started going out sgain at weekends and going to clubs but limited to weekends and didn’t drink during the week. When I was 35 I stopped going out nearly completely, I’d had enough and I started going out with my wife to be and she didn’t drink and wasn’t a huge fan of nightclubs. Now I go out once or maybe twice a year and if I were told I could never go out again I don’t think I’d be that bothered.

the purple tin

Out of curiosity. What would be the most widely used drug in Irish niteclubs, apart from alcohol?

21Savage

the purple tin wrote: »

Out of curiosity. What would be the most widely used drug in Irish niteclubs, apart from alcohol?

Molly.

As you were, 21S x

the purple tin

21Savage wrote: »

Molly.

As you were, 21S x

That's a new one on me

FTA69

the purple tin wrote: »

That's a new one on me

Ecstasy.

I’d disagree with the above too by the way, unless you were in a club geared toward dance music then in all probability the drug of choice across the country would be cocaine.

brainfreeze

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

Alcohol is a depressant and I really feel it. I’m more anxious and stressed than I’ve been in quite some time and it’s due to overpriced alcohol.

Both stimulants and depressants can make you feel down when over indulged. However alcohol is not a called a depressant because it makes you feel depressed. A depressant is a chemical that slows down neurotransmission levels - it depresses your neurotransmitters. A stimulant speeds up neurotransmission levels - it stimulates your neurotransmitters. This is why someone on cocaine can talk a million miles a second, hop from topic to topic and do complex mental arithmetic better than his sober self, because his brain is literally running faster. Whereas too much alcohol (a depressant) you get the opposite effect, with parts of the brain seem to be shutting down (speech, motor skills etc, mental abilities).

Over indulging in either will give you anxiety the following day. However given your age, and I am assuming from your post you don't binge drink a lot in nightclubs, I don't think alcohol is causing you your stress and anxiety.

worded

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Small town niteclubs can be very bleak places.

You mean bleak and not in a good way right ....

the purple tin

FTA69 wrote: »

Ecstasy.

I’d disagree with the above too by the way, unless you were in a club geared toward dance music then in all probability the drug of choice across the country would be cocaine.

Yes seems like I haven't heard much about e over the last few years and the scandal of the head shops and legal highs has seemed to disappear too.
I remember when the onlt thing the bouncers had to watch out for was a sly naggin smuggled in to the disco or maybe an extremely rare joint.