Berlin "safe zone" for women on NYE

Grayson

The vast majority of crimes against women, in the west, are committed by white men. It's just that they're ignored. Rape and sexual assault has the lowest conviction ate of any crime. And because of that it's one of the most under reported.

Strangely people like you don't give a fcuk about that.

Ulysses Gaze

Grayson wrote: »

The vast majority of crimes against women, in the west, are committed by white men. It's just that they're ignored. Rape and sexual assault has the lowest conviction ate of any crime. And because of that it's one of the most under reported.

Strangely people like you don't give a fcuk about that.

Here is your strawman argument right here.



The vast majority of mass sexual assaults on women in Western Europe are not being committed by white men though, are they?

That is what we are talking about here.

Should we not highlight it at all? Or does the inconvenient truth undermine this myth of a "One World Cohesive Rainbow Nation" peddled by the Left

SEPT 23 1989

I am embarrassed for the German men letting this happen to their women

RobbieTheRobber

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I am embarrassed for the German men letting this happen to their women

What exactly are they "letting" happen that is embarrassing?

Let
1. not prevent or forbid; allow.

The Backwards Man

Good old whitey, he might be more rapey, but at least he does it on his own.

MayoSalmon

Ulysses Gaze wrote:

Should we not highlight it at all? Or does the inconvenient truth undermine this myth of a "One World Cohesive Rainbow Nation" peddled by the Left

What are you on about?! The most multicultural country in the world is the US and it has been the greatest success on this planet.

Captain Obvious

Yes, up until three years ago no women in Europe, particularly Germany, were subject to sexual assault or harassment and there were no women only clubs, events, deals or organisations.

By the way, that was sarcasm.

Yamanoto

Assuaging their collective holocaust guilt, by laying out the red carpet for the most anti-semitic, homophobic, culturally & religiously intolerant people on the planet (and then applying pressure on the rest of the EU to follow suit) is a recipe for pure success.

PeterParker957

MayoSalmon wrote: »

Ulysses Gaze wrote:

Should we not highlight it at all? Or does the inconvenient truth undermine this myth of a "One World Cohesive Rainbow Nation" peddled by the Left

What are you on about?! The most multicultural country in the world is the US and it has been the greatest success on this planet.

Yeah. Right.

The Backwards Man

There's no rape like a mass rape, isn't that right me old friend?

Omackeral

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I was in Germany once, got my hand chopped off for flushing a toilet after 10pm. The new normal.

Damn them allowing the invaders come over here and objectify, demean and violate our woman. That's a white man's job.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Good old whitey, he might be more rapey, but at least he does it on his own.

Is this you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilCmywMin8I

4068ac1elhodqr

Grayson wrote: »

The vast majority of crimes against women, in the west, are committed by white men...

Difficult to make such conclusions in terms of proper proportional representation (obviously white men in the West are perhaps 40% of the total population).

E.g. In the US, the highest (proportional to population) group banged up in the jail system probably aren't all white dudes.

The Backwards Man

Yeah it's absolutely hilarious isn't it? It only matters when the perpetrator is someone brown from a big evil far away country, sure where else would you get a great crime like it?

Outlaw Pete

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I was in Germany once, got my hand chopped off for flushing a toilet after 10pm. The new normal.

Damn them allowing the invaders come over here and objectify, demean and violate our woman. That's a white man's job.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Good old whitey, he might be more rapey, but at least he does it on his own.

Oh, edgy sarcasm. You're so woke.

Do you have an actual point to make? Make it.

enricoh

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I was in Germany once, got my hand chopped off for flushing a toilet after 10pm. The new normal.

Damn them allowing the invaders come over here and objectify, demean and violate our woman. That's a white man's job.

Is that the very best u can come up with to deflect attention that Germany has to do stuff like this nowadays?. And Sweden with it's women only festivals.
Come back to us with what u had for breakfast as well or something equally interesting!

tomwaterford

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Troll.

To quote the smirnoff ad.......labels are for bottles, not people

The Backwards Man

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Oh, edgy sarcasm. You're so woke.

Do you have an actual point to make? Make it.

Already made it and well you know it. The vast majority on this thread care not for the victims of rape, nor for the citizens of Berlin, or for very much outside the confines of their own boxrooms.

Just another example of the cesspit this place has become.

PeterParker957

tomwaterford wrote: »

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Troll.

To quote the smirnoff ad.......labels are for bottles, not people

If it posts like a troll and quacks like a troll!

Ulysses Gaze

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Already made it and well you know it. The vast majority on this thread care not for the victims of rape, nor for the citizens of Berlin, or for very much outside the confines of their own boxrooms.

Just another example of the cesspit this place has become.

Want to back that up with some facts and evidence?

Or just continue to throw out some more Straw Men, Ad-Hominem attacks and generally gob****ery to deflect from the issue being discussed?

The_Kew_Tour

Going to Berlin tonight with herself. She is not European but wants do all History stuff. I'm looking forward to it and enjoy ringing in new year indoors in nice restaurant. Feck that will be too cold:pac:

Omackeral

Ah the loser in the box room stereotype (we don't really have basements here, I suppose). Anyway, 10 of these a day will get you some tolerance points...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tEiguYmgxA

Outlaw Pete

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Yeah it's absolutely hilarious isn't it? It only matters when the perpetrator is someone brown from a big evil far away country, sure where else would you get a great crime like it?

Are you actually suggesting that western society doesn't care when white men rape??

How did being white help Larry Murphy exactly?

The_Kew_Tour

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Just another example of the cesspit this place has become.

Yep trying make fun out of rape is pretty low

weldoninhio

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I am embarrassed for the German men letting this happen to their women

If they stood up to prevent these things happening they’d be publicised and ostracised as racists and Nazis.

weldoninhio

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Already made it and well you know it. The vast majority on this thread care not for the victims of rape, nor for the citizens of Berlin, or for very much outside the confines of their own boxrooms.

Just another example of the cesspit this place has become.

So your argument is that because some scumbag natives rape people, we should ignore the importation of foreign rape gangs?? Pathetic. Really pathetic.

tomwaterford

PeterParker957 wrote: »

If it posts like a troll and quacks like a troll!

Pretty sure calling others trolls is a bannable offence??


Something about personal abuse

The Backwards Man

weldoninhio wrote: »

So your argument is that because some scumbag natives rape people, we should ignore the importation of foreign rape gangs?? Pathetic. Really pathetic.

If you could point me in the direction of all the posts highlighting your ire at native German scumbag rapists then? Or your empathy for their victims?

Yeah. Pathetic is right.

weldoninhio

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If you could point me in the direction of all the posts highlighting your ire at native German scumbag rapists then? Or your empathy for their victims?

Yeah. Pathetic is right.

Rapes happen in every country. If we were to open a thread for each one the boards servers would pack in. There are scumbags in every country.

However, mass sexual assaults do not happen in every country. Gang rapes do not happen in every country. They rarely happen in the western world, which is why, when they do, they make the news.

As someone else has already asked you, could you point out the last white male led mass sexual assault or gang rape??

You can’t. Because up until Angela opened the gates it wasn’t a feature of life in a big city. There wasn’t a risk of going into a large crowd and being seriously sexually assaulted, or having a truck plough into you.

Ulysses Gaze

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If you could point me in the direction of all the posts highlighting your ire at native German scumbag rapists then? Or your empathy for their victims?

Yeah. Pathetic is right.

As I suspected.

You got nothing.

Omackeral

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Are you actually suggesting that western society doesn't care when white men rape??

How did being white help Larry Murphy exactly?

Agreed. Rapists are despised by even the dregs of society. Look at prison life. Sex offenders have to be sent to their own sections or even their own jails because your common convict will obliterate them given half a chance if they are in general population.

The Backwards Man

weldoninhio wrote: »

Rapes happen in every country. If we were to open a thread for each one the boards servers would pack in. There are scumbags in every country.

However, mass sexual assaults do not happen in every country. Gang rapes do not happen in every country. They rarely happen in the western world, which is why, when they do, they make the news.

As someone else has already asked you, could you point out the last white male led mass sexual assault or gang rape??

You can’t. Because up until Angela opened the gates it wasn’t a feature of life in a big city. There wasn’t a risk of going into a large crowd and being seriously sexually assaulted, or having a truck plough into you.

When was the last mass gang rape in Berlin?

I'll give you a clue, it was committed by white men.

NollagShona

Tom O Dwyer wrote: »

Nope. What matters is when you have an event like NYE, where rampant sexual violence was committed by foreign men.

Now please re-read my post where I support harsher sentencing for all rapists.

There was NOT rampant sexual violence

The Backwards Man

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

As I suspected.

You got nothing.

Got nothing on what? Any casual observer can see this thread for what it is, I don't need to add anything.

enricoh

weldoninhio wrote: »

Rapes happen in every country. If we were to open a thread for each one the boards servers would pack in. There are scumbags in every country.

However, mass sexual assaults do not happen in every country. Gang rapes do not happen in every country. They rarely happen in the western world, which is why, when they do, they make the news.

As someone else has already asked you, could you point out the last white male led mass sexual assault or gang rape??

You can’t. Because up until Angela opened the gates it wasn’t a feature of life in a big city. There wasn’t a risk of going into a large crowd and being seriously sexually assaulted, or having a truck plough into you.

Yeah, yeah thats true but so what? the crusades in the 12th century raped the locals in Syria.
And if that won't work good aul racist, knuckle draggers taunts etc will have to!

tomwaterford

All joking aside....why was noone ever convicted for that?

Or it picked up more widely by news media??.....Internet has left me somewhat skeptical of what is the exact truth what occurred??



It obv lies somewhere in middle of what the internet reports happened and what the German police offialy said about it??

The Backwards Man

Rape is a despicable and heinous crime and I've never sought to silence anyone.

Ulysses Gaze

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Got nothing on what? Any casual observer can see this thread for what it is, I don't need to add anything.

You have no evidence to back up your comment that.

The vast majority on this thread care not for the victims of rape

Nothing. Nada.

A casual observer to this thread would see your comments for what they are - obsfucation and blatant attempts to derail it.

tomwaterford

Tbf to Germany. ...there was nothing like this ever experienced on such a scale in europe beforehand and they have introduced laws to make deportations easier



But 4 out of 2000 suspects convicted is a disgrace....even within immigrant community,it must gaw as the suspicion will fall very wide as there is so many after getting off Scot free

Grayson

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Here is your strawman argument right here.



The vast majority of mass sexual assaults on women in Western Europe are not being committed by white men though, are they?

That is what we are talking about here.

Should we not highlight it at all? Or does the inconvenient truth undermine this myth of a "One World Cohesive Rainbow Nation" peddled by the Left

I'm not sure you know what a straw man is.

You've just said that the majority of mass sexual assaults are committed by non white people. You haven't
1) specified what mass sexual assault is
2) shown that it is indeed committed overwhelmingly by non white people
3) shown that this means that women should be more afraid of non white people.

You'e just making sh1t up.

jackofalltrades

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Rape is a despicable and heinous crime and I've never sought to silence anyone.

Claims rape is a despicable and heinous crime, then makes tasteless comment on it.
Claims to not be attempting to silence anyone, yet is trying to get thread closed.

Grayson

No they didn't.

Plus even with the influx of refugees the number of sexual assaults has dropped. There's less sexual assault in sweden now.

suicide_circus

I don't think we should be surprised. Decisions and policies often have unintended consequences. Multiculturalism can't be all cultural enrichment and shiny happy clappy. Introducing large amounts of primarily single young men into a culture strikingly more liberal than their own with no real tried and tested plans about how to integrate them was foolhardy, not even the most gushing multiculturalist would argue with that.

ArchXStanton

suicide_circus wrote: »

I don't think we should be surprised. Decisions and policies often have unintended consequences. Multiculturalism can't be all cultural enrichment and shiny happy clappy. Introducing large amounts of primarily single young men into a culture strikingly more liberal than their own with no real tried and tested plans about how to integrate them was foolhardy, not even the most gushing multiculturalist would argue with that.

And yet the EU persist with it....changing the face of Europe I think they call it

weldoninhio

The Backwards Man wrote: »

When was the last mass gang rape in Berlin?

I'll give you a clue, it was committed by white men.

Last one I can find online was in March of this year. 5 Arab men in a refugee centre in Hamburg raped a seven year old girl. I’m blocking you now. I’m not going to continue speaking with someone so sick as to use rape to score points. Have a word with yourself.

tomwaterford

Tbf the definition of rape was stupidly wide in Sweden....afaik it was the charge Assange faced...for slapping some wan in the arse


Highly wrong and reprensible....but deminishs actual rape victims....and caused rape figures to rocket....ffs step foot in any nightclub in the country tonight and you'll see same/worse than what Assange done




**this is not to deminish sex assult victims,but I do feel actual facts are necessary here......to prevent this turning into a mess and being locked

tomwaterford

I'm not denying immigrants causing rise in sex crimes (and probably ordinary crime Idk? )


But it's undoubted that saying they are going about raping everything that moves (as technically they were in sweden) and applying it that they will rape everyone in ireland...is fear-mongering misrepresenting facts IMO.....

.when the 2 definitions are vastly different

>>if that makes sense

Ulysses Gaze

Grayson wrote: »

I'm not sure you know what a straw man is.

You've just said that the majority of mass sexual assaults are committed by non white people. You haven't
1) specified what mass sexual assault is
2) shown that it is indeed committed overwhelmingly by non white people
3) shown that this means that women should be more afraid of non white people.

You'e just making sh1t up.

No. You are making **** up. And, once again, obsfucating.

Read the article in the OP and hone in on this line.

Organisers of Berlin's New Year's Eve celebrations are to set up a "safe zone" for women for the first time.

This thread is about the fallout from NYE 2015 & 2016 celebrations in Germany and the Taharrush (i.e. mass sexual assaults) that took place there. And that there are now "Safe Zones". Something not needed before.

Is that clear now?

Let me clarify it for you again in case it is not.....

Berlin never needed this type of Safe Zone for Women before on New Years Eve.


Maybe you'd like to comment on the fact that in Berlin they have had to introduce a Safe Zone for women for the first time. In a Western European city. Because of fears of a repeat of Taharrush.

Or are you going to continue to bull****, obsfucate and introduce those wonderful straw men.

jackofalltrades

Grayson wrote: »

No they didn't.

Plus even with the influx of refugees the number of sexual assaults has dropped. There's less sexual assault in sweden now.

What are you basing this on?
Because the Swedish Crime Survey shows a significant spike in the last two years.

Grayson

that doesn't address a single point i made.

What is a mass sexual attack?
Show stats to prove that it is committed overwhelmingly by non white people.
And show that it occurs often enough that a woman should be afraid of it.

Grayson

1) that's not a definition. If it is then it's literally the only time it's ever occurred. The poster I replied to said the majority of mass rapes were committed by non white people. If thee's only ever been one in the history of humanity, or even in the last decade, then he's creating a hysteria.
2) the crimes in Cologne were committed by a range of people. There were even americans. Show some statistics. Otherwise I would be able to counter with a case where white men committed sexual assaults and that would be pointless. You have to show actual statistics for your point to be valid. So you have to show that it occurs often and that it is non white people who committed the acts on the majority of occasions.
3) you still haven't shown that it occurs often enough for women to be rationally more scared of non white people than of a white person.