Calf price chitchat

mf240

Willfarman wrote: »

A wet spring and milk price of less than 20 cent
is all that will cure their belligerence!

It would only make us dig in harder

visatorro

Have the worst calves in the mart and they are in last, what could possibly go wrong. The dealers will be mad to fill the trailers I'd imagine!

whelan2

visatorro wrote: »

Have the worst calves in the mart and they are in last, what could possibly go wrong. The dealers will be mad to fill the trailers I'd imagine!

Mine were number 73. The auctioneer was so slow.

whelan2

aa bull 100
aa heifer 100
small aa heifer 30
over 100 calves in Ardee which would be a massive sale for there, not enough buyers there. Was a few lovely fr heifer calves, genuine stock think the best made 270 . wh bulls to 320- which imo was madness.

orm0nd

whelan2 wrote: »

aa bull 100
aa heifer 100
small aa heifer 30
over 100 calves in Ardee which would be a massive sale for there, not enough buyers there. Was a few lovely fr heifer calves, genuine stock think the best made 270 . wh bulls to 320- which imo was madness.

Getting late in the year for fr heifers. Saw 6 smashing wh bulls bought in Bandon y/day. Great length and square must be a month old. Think he said avg 280 including fees.

jaymla627

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Or else breed calves that have an economic beef value. Nobody expects 100% of calves to have an economic value however if the bobby calf number hit much above 1-2%% ( that is about 30k+ calves) I can see it staring to be an issue. If the numbers start to hit 10-15% in the region of 150-200k calves there will be huge issues for the dairy industry IMO. It would be very easy to hit that number by the dairy industry getting careless and a poor beef price as at present. If your prediction is right next year such calf numbers could hit 50k+. When you start to talk about numbers like that it gets hairy.

This is mainly a dairy industry issue not a beef industry issue. As well it may only be the farmers producing these calves that get hit. The government could put a levy on slaughtered calves to prevent it or even the EU or some processors could stop collecting milk from producers who slaughter a large percentage of calves. Such producer's would then have to find another milk processors and I am sure there would be some processors willing to process it but the milk price could be 3-10c/L below the industry norm. The government,the PLC's and the Co-op's will do what ever it takes to keep the show on the road.

Would this lady make the pay-grade, off a planned cull but to go with this blue bull accross the herd you’d be asking for trouble

whelan2

4 calves in local sale. Aa bull just under 3 weeks €220. Aa heifer 5 weeks old 185. Fr bull 7weeks old 120!!!! & Aa heifer calf 2 weeks old a good bit of white on her 80 euro. Was jex in after mine 5 to 25 euro. Sale started at 2. I am home with my cheque now

visatorro

whelan2 wrote: »

4 calves in local sale. Aa bull just under 3 weeks €220. Aa heifer 5 weeks old 185. Fr bull 7weeks old 120!!!! & Aa heifer calf 2 weeks old a good bit of white on her 80 euro. Was jex in after mine 5 to 25 euro. Sale started at 2. I am home with my cheque now

Many calves there?

whelan2

visatorro wrote: »

Many calves there?

90. One of the shippers who wasn't there last week was there today, made a difference

Mooooo

Was close on 1500 in bandon yday. Trade a bit better. Sold 4 to 5 wk old fr bulls made 80, aa bulls and heifers 3 weeks old 140 or so. Mine can't go for export so others may have made more

mf240

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/free-to-good-home-18-friesian-bulls/21889573

Say my name

WCC again.

whelan2

mf240 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/free-to-good-home-18-friesian-bulls/21889573

A bit late in the year now.

mf240

whelan2 wrote: »

A bit late in the year now.

Ya it's shoving on. But it's funny the late calves usually find buyers. They look fairly narrow don't they.

whelan2

mf240 wrote: »

Ya it's shoving on. But it's funny the late calves usually find buyers. They look fairly narrow don't they.

Ye supposedly up to 8 weeks old. A good bit of hol in them

Say my name

Probably bought by the job lots and these are the runts/failures by department inspection now for export since it's gotten more serious.

whelan2

Say my name wrote: »

Probably bought by the job lots and these are the runts/failures by department inspection now for export since it's gotten more serious.

You wouldn't know what you'd be buying in.

Dakota Dan

orm0nd wrote: »

Getting late in the year for fr heifers. Saw 6 smashing wh bulls bought in Bandon y/day. Great length and square must be a month old. Think he said avg 280 including fees.

I was only getting that for massive 5 week old BB bulls last year.

Pidae.m

Macroom very dear today. Shippers flying.

alps

Pidae.m wrote: »

Macroom very dear today. Shippers flying.

What kind of prices Pidae?

cute geoge

Pidae.m wrote: »

Macroom very dear today. Shippers flying.

What age and breed that is in demand
What could i expect for plain wh heifers 200kg ???Any export for these type

_Brian

Ballybay yesterday.

2-3 week old Hex €90-130 4-6 week old € €180-220

AA €80-150

Smx €250

Bbx €180

Fr €50-90

Jex €10

About 50 lots total.

keepalive213

Any prices on dairy x calves lately

Gawddawggonnit

keepalive213 wrote: »

Any prices on dairy x calves lately

Sold fr bulls on Wed €145 at 15days old.
Bought frxlim bulls same day €310 at 15days old.

whelan2

130 euro for reared simmental calves in Ballbay mart!

Albert Johnson

whelan2 wrote: »

130 euro for reared simmental calves in Ballbay mart!

If there anyway half decent the money is tempting however I'm envisioning pot bellies and a back end you could pick your teeth with. I was in Castlerea last week and a group of very average reared HEx and SIMx bull calves made from €200 to €320. A good dose seemed badly needed and whoever reared them looked to have been very sparing with the meal and milk replacer. I was tempted by the few best examples but at circa €350 at home in the yard they didn't seem value for long keep stock. An average suckler weanling at €500 in the autumn would be better value imo but there's no shortage of grass to be eaten at the moment.

Count Mondego

Albert Johnson wrote: »

An average suckler weanling at €500 in the autumn would be better value imo but there's no shortage of grass to be eaten at the moment.

I don't think I've ever seen one of those in a Mart.

Albert Johnson

Count Mondego wrote: »

Albert Johnson wrote: »

An average suckler weanling at €500 in the autumn would be better value imo but there's no shortage of grass to be eaten at the moment.

I don't think I've ever seen one of those in a Mart.

Come November there's no great shortage of them locally anyway, circa 200kg at €500. They'll not be the tops of CHx but AA, SH or middle of the road LM can be picked up for that most years. You might not fill the lorry the first day but if you had the time and patience you'd assemble a bunch over time.

whelan2

Went to calf sale today. There were 5 calves in it. I had 1 fr bull in it 12 days old got 55 euro. Was 4 other calves from another farmer. Poor 2 week old fr bull 12 euro. Poor April born fr bull 110. Chx heifer board said 3 weeks old but I'd say 3 months old on cow 330 euro. Black lim similar age 310

visatorro

whelan2 wrote: »

Went to calf sale today. There were 5 calves in it. I had 1 fr bull in it 12 days old got 55 euro. Was 4 other calves from another farmer. Poor 2 week old fr bull 12 euro. Poor April born fr bull 110. Chx heifer board said 3 weeks old but I'd say 3 months old on cow 330 euro. Black lim similar age 310

Was there just the couple of dealers there or did farmers buy?

whelan2

visatorro wrote: »

Was there just the couple of dealers there or did farmers buy?

Usual dealers. Heard there was herefords going for 30 euro last week. Cattle sale was over at 12.40

Gawddawggonnit

HolxBB males, 15days old, €300+.

HolxCH makes 15days, €250+.

Heifers around €100 less.

Agent said they’re for Holland and Spain.

Gawddawggonnit

Holstein bulls 15days, €50-100.
They’d want to be little heifers calves to be on €50.

patsy_mccabe

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Holstein bulls 15days, €50-100.
They’d want to be little heifers calves to be on €50.

You should always make it clear that these are Frence prices. Not everyone knows who you are !!!!

jaymla627

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Holstein bulls 15days, €50-100.
They’d want to be little heifers calves to be on €50.

When the glut of Irish calves comes in the Spring how much do they knock back your prices by, if 30% of the Irish herd was autumn calving you’d sort out a lot of the bottleneck that hits exporting with the spring flush, but given its blasphemy to move away from the spring system it’s a fanciful notion

Gawddawggonnit

jaymla627 wrote: »

When the glut of Irish calves comes in the Spring how much do they knock back your prices by, if 30% of the Irish herd was autumn calving you’d sort out a lot of the bottleneck that hits exporting with the spring flush, but given its blasphemy to move away from the spring system it’s a fanciful notion

When the glut comes on the market in the spring calves are impossible to shift here...

whelan2

Blue heifer calf 2 weeks old out of British friesian cow, what price should I ask?

Mooooo

whelan2 wrote: »

Blue heifer calf 2 weeks old out of British friesian cow, what price should I ask?

1 million dollars!!
Not sure what way the market is, if she has shape to her 150 maybe? At 2 weeks

stanflt

whelan2 wrote: »

Blue heifer calf 2 weeks old out of British friesian cow, what price should I ask?

I’d be looking 200- if I was buying 150- I could come down and collect later for 150

Bullocks

stanflt wrote: »

whelan2 wrote: »

Blue heifer calf 2 weeks old out of British friesian cow, what price should I ask?

I’d be looking 200- if I was buying 150- I could come down and collect later for 150

Are you finishing beef now aswell Stan or am I mistaken?

whelan2

stanflt wrote: »

I’d be looking 200- if I was buying 150- I could come down and collect later for 150

Have 8 calves to go this morning. Lad supposed to be coming soon. Ye 150 would be a bit low imo. Might ask 250 and see how it goes. If you dont ask you dont get.

stanflt

Bullocks wrote: »

Are you finishing beef now aswell Stan or am I mistaken?

Was till I lost my shirt- run my own beef crosses to 450kg-
Might consolidate next year and drop some ground and sell some entitlements

whelan2

Dealer was telling me he bought spring born Angus and fr heifers for €160.

stanflt

whelan2 wrote: »

Dealer was telling me he bought spring born Angus and fr heifers for €160.

Would he sell them for 180? Or is he just low balling

whelan2

stanflt wrote: »

Would he sell them for 180? Or is he just low balling

I'd say he'd sell them for more. How much would they have cost the farmer since birth? Even €10 in the spring would be better than keeping them on. He asked me did I want to buy some

High bike

whelan2 wrote: »

Dealer was telling me he bought spring born Angus and fr heifers for €160.

were they bought in a mart or from a farmer?

whelan2

High bike wrote: »

were they bought in a mart or from a farmer?

From a farmer

High bike

whelan2 wrote: »

From a farmer

must have been desperate to offload

Bass Reeves

whelan2 wrote: »

I'd say he'd sell them for more. How much would they have cost the farmer since birth? Even €10 in the spring would be better than keeping them on. He asked me did I want to buy some

Are they worth much more. They are more than likely sub 150kg heifers. A 280KG AA heifer grading O- would be making sub 1K since mid July, even with new pricing structure they are just at 1000 euro net of factory fees. If grading O- knock 50 euro off.

Good loser

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Are they worth much more. They are more than likely sub 150kg heifers. A 280KG AA heifer grading O- would be making sub 1K since mid July, even with new pricing structure they are just at 1000 euro net of factory fees. If grading O- knock 50 euro off.

The Angus are surely worth €250.