Calf price chitchat

Keepgrowing

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

really?..a march born holstein friesian bull calf at 2 weeks old minimum price of purchase €100??..more like under €50

Sold 40 bull calves out of yard on Thursday €40 each, lotto money in my view and they’re all off heifers. 15-17 days old

patsy_mccabe

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Sold 40 bull calves out of yard on Thursday €40 each, lotto money in my view and they’re all off heifers. 15-17 days old

What would their breeding be? FR x Hol?

Keepgrowing

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

What would their breeding be? FR x Hol?

NR x Fr

stretch film

Keepgrowing wrote: »

NR x Fr

You milking nr yet.

Keep Sluicing

I've been off boards the last few weeks. But there doesn't seem to be any hassle getting calves sold in my part of cork. There were prophets of doom locally claiming there was going to be "calfmageddon" this spring.

whelan2

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

I've been off boards the last few weeks. But there doesn't seem to be any hassle getting calves sold in my part of cork. There were prophets of doom locally claiming there was going to be "calfmageddon" this spring.

No boat yesterday or the week before....

Gawddawggonnit

Sold 3 heifer calves. 2 were Chx and 1 Lmx.
They were 26 days old and weighed 77kgs average. Average €110/head.


Puts Jex into perspective...

DukeCaboom

whelan2 wrote: »

No boat yesterday or the week before....

Ya every farmer that ever bought a calf in cork arrived into macroom Saturday rubbing their hands at the thought of a calf bonanza... It was a hoult anything that made €5/€10 in skibbereen was making €40 /€50. Farmers are the best customers as ever.

Dont expect any deals in bandon tomorrow either, the main shipper has only a few calves on hand, he is expecting to sail Tuesday so he'll haveto fill it.

weatherbyfoxer

anyone know what continental x calves are making at the minute?

JeffKenna

DukeCaboom wrote: »

Ya every farmer that ever bought a calf in cork arrived into macroom Saturday rubbing their hands at the thought of a calf bonanza... It was a hoult anything that made €5/€10 in skibbereen was making €40 /€50. Farmers are the best customers as ever.

Dont expect any deals in bandon tomorrow either, the main shipper has only a few calves on hand, he is expecting to sail Tuesday so he'll haveto fill it.

Massive difference to last year in Bandon so when FR bull calves where left unsold and not collected nor fed by farmers until 2am in the morning.

DukeCaboom

JeffKenna wrote: »

Massive difference to last year in Bandon so when FR bull calves where left unsold and not collected nor fed by farmers until 2am in the morning.

All that was wrong that day was it was very young calves turned up. 100 went unsold that day.

On another note the dept were in macroom checking calves. One calf which was definitely underage as his navel wasn't dried was isolated and was been photographed by the dept.

GrasstoMilk

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

I've been off boards the last few weeks. But there doesn't seem to be any hassle getting calves sold in my part of cork. There were prophets of doom locally claiming there was going to be "calfmageddon" this spring.

Numbers will start to rise from now on. 300k births so far. They're on the way.
We've 30 to move out here. Would be similar on lots of farms

Base price

JeffKenna wrote: »

Massive difference to last year in Bandon so when FR bull calves where left unsold and not collected nor fed by farmers until 2am in the morning.

That incident occurred later in the calving season (middle of March) when there was nearly 2000 calves in the mart that day. The word came through that the livestock lorries wouldn't be able to sail that week due to the arrival of a storm. It affected calf prices throughout the country and most farmers had to hold onto their calves for an additional week.

kevthegaff

Lad from the north rang me about buying calves for shipping, if deal hel pay tomorrow and collect Wednesday. Would u be trusting

Bass Reeves

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Numbers will start to rise from now on. 300k births so far. They're on the way.
We've 30 to move out here. Would be similar on lots of farms

There is just about another 1.2 million to go nothing to worry about.They will all sail away happy

whelan2

DukeCaboom wrote: »

Ya every farmer that ever bought a calf in cork arrived into macroom Saturday rubbing their hands at the thought of a calf bonanza... It was a hoult anything that made €5/€10 in skibbereen was making €40 /€50. Farmers are the best customers as ever.

Dont expect any deals in bandon tomorrow either, the main shipper has only a few calves on hand, he is expecting to sail Tuesday so he'll haveto fill it.

Any word is there a boat going tomorrow

alps

whelan2 wrote: »

Any word is there a boat going tomorrow

Absolutely no chance if it was horses. Bovine dont get motion sick however, but this looks real rough..Wave height in meters..

DukeCaboom

whelan2 wrote: »

Any word is there a boat going tomorrow

Ya but only one lorry per shipper.

3 week old fr bulls well done making €180 in bandon today. Farmers blowing the shippers out!!

Bass Reeves

DukeCaboom wrote: »

Ya but only one lorry per shipper.

3 week old fr bulls well done making €180 in bandon today. Farmers blowing the shippers out!!

I will be buying them in May/June 2021 for 500 euro

Panch18

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I will be buying them in May/June 2021 for 500 euro

It seems to me that you are willing there to be a calf crisis.

Bass Reeves

Panch18 wrote: »

It seems to me that you are willing there to be a calf crisis.

No I am not but I am pointing out the simple economic fact if finished prices remain as is I expect I will it such yearling mid summer next year for 1.2 1.4/kg.we are after two autumn's where they have even been lower than that

Panch18

Bass Reeves wrote: »

No I am not but I am pointing out the simple economic fact if finished prices remain as is I expect I will it such yearling mid summer next year for 1.2 1.4/kg.we are after two autumn's where they have even been lower than that

Fellas are paying decent (relatively speaking obviously) money for calves now because they are getting super prices for weanlings and yearlings in the marts at the moment. This bracket of animal is anything from 100-200 above where they should really be.

The profit on an animal is not the difference between what that particular animals is bought and sold for - its the difference between his sales price and his replacement price

weatherbyfoxer

any half decent angus or Hereford yearlings are trading at around €2/kg at the moment..these could be bought as calves for €120-€150 depending on age last spring..often wonder how some lads make up there margins on finishing stock..the best of those cattle could kill into 1250 in 12 months time if the current beef price continues

kevthegaff

What are hereford/fr cross calves making?

Toetohand

DukeCaboom wrote: »

All that was wrong that day was it was very young calves turned up. 100 went unsold that day.

On another note the dept were in macroom checking calves. One calf which was definitely underage as his navel wasn't dried was isolated and was been photographed by the dept.

Proper order too. I was there every second Saturday last year from about March to May and a small percentage each Saturday obviously very young. It wouldn’t kill lads to feed them for a fortnight like.

Bass Reeves

Panch18 wrote: »

Fellas are paying decent (relatively speaking obviously) money for calves now because they are getting super prices for weanlings and yearlings in the marts at the moment. This bracket of animal is anything from 100-200 above where they should really be.

The profit on an animal is not the difference between what that particular animals is bought and sold for - its the difference between his sales price and his replacement price

In theory you are correct but calves are coming into the mart faster than weanlings/yearlings and especially dairy cross ones. When numbers start to increase it hard to see prices remain as strong as present. I just cannot understand the mentality of paying such a price for a 3week old calf when in all probability you will get the same calf in 2-3 weeks for sub 100. Not every lad selling buying calves is selling weanlings at the same time.

I went to the mart 6-7 times last year I only bought two day one day six and the second day 22. I see no point in buying to a projected losd

alps

Panch18 wrote: »

Fellas are paying decent (relatively speaking obviously) money for calves now because they are getting super prices for weanlings and yearlings in the marts at the moment. This bracket of animal is anything from 100-200 above where they should really be.

The profit on an animal is not the difference between what that particular animals is bought and sold for - its the difference between his sales price and his replacement price

Imteresting pitch

DukeCaboom

17 calves sent home from bandon yesterday. Starvation. Same lad milks about 120 cows.)

whelan2

DukeCaboom wrote: »

17 calves sent home from bandon yesterday. Starvation. Same lad milks about 120 cows.)

What were the prices like

Millionaire only not

DukeCaboom wrote: »

17 calves sent home from bandon yesterday. Starvation. Same lad milks about 120 cows.)

Rightly so followed with being prosecuted and fined with it , would be proper order !

The few pound in giving few gallons of milk to a calf won’t make or break anyone!

There’s right and wrong - and as a neighbour said lately be responsible for what u breed!

Castlekeeper

Millionaire only not wrote: »

Rightly so followed with being prosecuted and fined with it , would be proper order !

The few pound in giving few gallons of milk to a calf won’t make or break anyone!

There’s right and wrong - and as a neighbour said lately be responsible for what u breed!

Hungry farmer, hungry calf.

mf240

Millionaire only not wrote: »

There’s right and wrong - and as a neighbour said lately be responsible for what u breed!

It would reduce homeless crisis too.!

atlantic mist

3-4 week old friesian averaged 100 in new ross today
plenty not sold
stopping taking jersey cross calves as no one will bid on them

whelan2

Any word on any boats going? Plenty of crap prices in local mart during the week

visatorro

whelan2 wrote:

Any word on any boats going? Plenty of crap prices in local mart during the week

Is the early bubble burst?! Iv nothing gone yet.

whelan2

visatorro wrote: »

Is the early bubble burst?! Iv nothing gone yet.

No buyers for young fr calves in Ardee on tuesday

Water John

Big sale in Macroom today. Batch of Fr bulls €58/hd.

DukeCaboom

Fr bulls for f all yesterday in bandon. The main buyer had a cracking pen of calves @ €50.(he'd 430 calves altogether)
Boat cancelled today and a doubt Thursday. Aa & hex bulls a good trade still 240 ish for a straight one.
Saying that two lads had a row over 3 good fr bulls that made €140. Saw the same 3 make €22 earlier in the morning.

whelan2

DukeCaboom wrote: »

Fr bulls for f all yesterday in bandon. The main buyer had a cracking pen of calves @ €50.(he'd 430 calves altogether)
Boat cancelled today and a doubt Thursday. Aa & hex bulls a good trade still 240 ish for a straight one.
Saying that two lads had a row over 3 good fr bulls that made €140. Saw the same 3 make €22 earlier in the morning.

Oh has a load of steel on a trailer here for nearly 2 weeks it has to be lifted off on a building site in Dublin with a crane. So I am being guided by if he's allowed to unload if the boats will be going ....must be a big backlog of calves on farm now

jaymla627

whelan2 wrote: »

Oh has a load of steel on a trailer here for nearly 2 weeks it has to be lifted off on a building site in Dublin with a crane. So I am being guided by if he's allowed to unload if the boats will be going ....must be a big backlog of calves on farm now

Fr bulls will be unsaleable the next 3 weeks unless their very well done and 3 weeks plus, shouldn't come as any bit of a shock to lads was always going to happen they can either hold on to them our basically give them away if buyers can even be found

whelan2

jaymla627 wrote: »

Fr bulls will be unsaleable the next 3 weeks unless their very well done and 3 weeks plus, shouldn't come as any bit of a shock to lads was always going to happen they can either hold on to them our basically give them away if buyers can even be found

I'm testing next week will test young calves and hold onto them for a few weeks I think. I had good fr bull calves in mart last week and got 10 euro for them. Alot of calves got no bid. I wasn't bringing them home

_Brian

How are HEX calves selling ?

whelan2

_Brian wrote: »

How are HEX calves selling ?

Dont think there was any in Ardee last week

Bass Reeves

I heard that a few marts will not accept JEX calves for sale as they are failing get s bid.

whelan2

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I heard that a few marts will not accept JEX calves for sale as they are failing get s bid.

Fr not getting bids too.

Bass Reeves

whelan2 wrote: »

Fr not getting bids too.

Ys but lads will still take them away unless they are badly done

jaymla627

whelan2 wrote: »

I'm testing next week will test young calves and hold onto them for a few weeks I think. I had good fr bull calves in mart last week and got 10 euro for them. Alot of calves got no bid. I wasn't bringing them home

Put back breeding here 3 weeks so only getting into calving now, has been a godsend with the way the spring is turning out, have a buyer for all my calves too but he cant take them till after paddy's day at a minimum of two weeks old so its working out well

_Brian

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I heard that a few marts will not accept JEX calves for sale as they are failing get s bid.

You can’t blame lads not buying them or the marts not wanting to clog the place up with calves that won’t sell. having 70-80 jex calves on a busy mart day just takes up space and slows down the sales.

patsy_mccabe

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I heard that a few marts will not accept JEX calves for sale as they are failing get s bid.

At those prices, you might be shuffling into ringside yourself. :rolleyes:

Hard Knocks

Saw some BB x JEX calves
Would they be good heifers to rare, would they stay small?