Calf price chitchat

older by the day

Going ai next week. Il serve the good ones with holtein/fresin. But I'm thinking of what beef to use on the other middling cows. I use dovea as he's a friend. I had a lovely blue off Norton jaguar but he's over 6%calving diff. I have two AA for cleaning up. salers, aubrac, something to cover the milk and the ai call? What beef ai are you using? Calving ease and added value ??

Castlekeeper

Mooooo wrote: »

What were they making ? Fcukall last week in bandon. Had a couple made 100 and then majority at 50 and they were not all that much smaller than the 100 euro calves. One was a monster off a fleckveih. The fcuking cow is still in shackles after him. AA and HE. A fr in with them made 100 then

Not all rosy in the garden dowm in the good land so, ye seem to get an awful screwing in calf prices. I suppose wed get a lot of the Midlands farmers and dealers able to travel hereabouts in under 2 hours.

older by the day

Castlekeeper wrote: »

Not all rosy in the garden dowm in the good land so, ye seem to get an awful screwing in calf prices. I suppose wed get a lot of the Midlands farmers and dealers able to travel hereabouts in under 2 hours.

You obviously don't know some of the land here in west cork, it's not so much good land but good farmers. Lol

Anto_Meath

Mooooo wrote: »

What were they making ? Fcukall last week in bandon. Had a couple made 100 and then majority at 50 and they were not all that much smaller than the 100 euro calves. One was a monster off a fleckveih. The fcuking cow is still in shackles after him. AA and HE. A fr in with them made 100 then

FR were making anything from €30 - €135 general run was around €80
AAX €100 - €285 general run in around €190.
HEX €150 - €300 generally in around €250
BBX €165 - €440 generally in around €280

davidk1394

I gave €100 a head on AA x MO heifer calves. I bought 8, 3 to 4 weeks old

older by the day

Anto_Meath wrote: »

FR were making anything from €30 - €135 general run was around €80
AAX €100 - €285 general run in around €190.
HEX €150 - €300 generally in around €250
BBX €165 - €440 generally in around €280

Jayus I'm battling to get 130 for Angus bulls 3 wks old out of British fresian cow down here .

Castlekeeper

older by the day wrote: »

You obviously don't know some of the land here in west cork, it's not so much good land but good farmers. Lol

Not much poor land with big herds of within close range of Bandon mart. I know real West Cork fairly well.

K.G.

Castlekeeper wrote: »

Not much poor land with big herds of within close range of Bandon mart. I know real West Cork fairly well.

Bandon s great land but go west abit and you into some fair s##t of land and thats where alot of bandon calves come from.hd bulls 110 heifers 70 to 80 here. Fr bulls were 20 e when you could get them moved.little or no local buyers now in west cork.

visatorro

jaymla627 wrote:

Their a disaster in every way, had to cull 4 fleck cross heifers here stone mad in parlor, coupled with mastitis cases running at 40% in them compared with 5% in their Holstein counterparts, aren’t particularly hard calved but the calves are dopey and very hard trained to feeders.... Sold all my maiden x fleck heifers to a beef man on the back of how the 1st batch of them turned out

There is a big push to use fleck now. Bit like montys years ago. Going for big money too. Dunno maybe in ten year's if they are still about!

ted_182

visatorro wrote: »

There is a big push to use fleck now. Bit like montys years ago. Going for big money too. Dunno maybe in ten year's if they are still about!

Uncles tells one about a chap in the area talking about the the montys, 'theyd destroy a good herd' was the jist of it.

Castlekeeper

ted_182 wrote: »

Uncles tells one about a chap in the area talking about the the montys, 'theyd destroy a good herd' was the jist of it.

I know two lads that still use them and are/were delighted with them. Two very standard operations too. The Fleckvieh always had he reputation for having fertility, production, and functional issues.
Don't mean to digress too much, sorry.

Base price

I was watching online calf sales over the last few weeks and surprised that there was no mention of the dam/mother's breeding on the sale information board.

I thought the reason that DAFM included the dam's breeding on the blue card (from Jan 2020) was to inform potential buyers. I would have thought that the marts should have included that information considering that some have adapted to online sales due to the pandemic.
https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/news/farming-news/dam-data-to-be-made-available-on-mart-display-boards-38886457.html

Base price

As an aside - is there a mandatory rule/regulation about showing all the data on the blue card for calves/cattle sold through a mart?
We buy most of our FR/FRx/HEx/AAx bull calves from the same dairy farmers every year. Some of them have converted to using JE/Kiwi semen but we can see their dam's breeding on the blue card on a farm to farm movement iykwim.

Gawddawggonnit

Chx males €330-380.
Females €240-280.

Bbx males €300-345.
Females €200-215.

Lmx males €230-260.
Females €160-180.

All 15-23 days old. Not for export, all for local veal houses.
Prices are + vat.

whelan2

Good demand for calves out of the yard at the moment.

mayota

whelan2 wrote: »

Good demand for calves out of the yard at the moment.

Plenty people at home to rear them.

whelan2

mayota wrote: »

Plenty people at home to rear them.

Lad down the road has bought over 100 calves in the last few weeks from a few local farmers.

GrasstoMilk

whelan2 wrote: »

Good demand for calves out of the yard at the moment.

Any idea on prices for angus heifers and bulls?

whelan2

I'm getting 100 euro at 10 days old for aa bulls and heifers. Some are small heifers calves.

GrasstoMilk

whelan2 wrote: »

I'm getting 100 euro at 10 days old for aa bulls and heifers. Some are small heifers calves.

I had a dealer here the other day looking at calves. Said 50 for heifers and 100 for bulls. Half of them are over 4 weeks old.
Said no demand for angus heifers for export.

Think I'll try else where

older by the day

130 for 3 to 4 wk old bulls,heifers. Nice square lads. Got a 100 for 14days old for export two weeks ago. Try an add on done deal. See who's looking

whelan2

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

I had a dealer here the other day looking at calves. Said 50 for heifers and 100 for bulls. Half of them are over 4 weeks old.
Said no demand for angus heifers for export.

Think I'll try else where

The lad that's taking my calves isnt a dealer and will take them all. At 4 weeks old he was taking the piss. The only thing holding up movements here is the bvd results

K.G.

Anyone else hwar that hd reds are more sought after than blacks.long ago when we were selling stores the blacks were more valuable as it was thought they had less fat

Bass Reeves

K.G. wrote: »

Anyone else hwar that hd reds are more sought after than blacks.long ago when we were selling stores the blacks were more valuable as it was thought they had less fat

Lads must want them for the front of the house. Having said that most reds would flesh easier. There may be another reason they may sell better at 12-18 months as lads may think they are suckler bred stock.

3 the square

Sold 3 fr bulls 100 each
2 he heifers strong calves 170 each
2 he heifers handy enough 140 each
Happy enough

deise toffee

How much would 3-4 week old Hex calves off Holstein cows be worth? 3-4 weeks old?

cute geoge

I got €200 for nice hex bulls about 6 weeks old a fortnight ago ,the farmer said he would be back the next week for more and have not seen him since!!!! Is it possible to log on to any of the online sales as i have to move on some share of them anyway but meet no one who can give me prices

trg

cute geoge wrote: »

I got €200 for nice hex bulls about 6 weeks old a fortnight ago ,the farmer said he would be back the next week for more and have not seen him since!!!! Is it possible to log on to any of the online sales as i have to move on some share of them anyway but meet no one who can give me prices

Where are you based?

straight

3 the square wrote: »

Sold 3 fr bulls 100 each
2 he heifers strong calves 170 each
2 he heifers handy enough 140 each
Happy enough

How old were they? They cost you 30 euro per week I guess.

liosnagceann75

Neighbor calling tonight for an aax heifer calf 12 days old. What should I ask him? Handy calf off a British Friesian

whelan2

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

Neighbor calling tonight for an aax heifer calf 12 days old. What should I ask him? Handy calf off a British Friesian

80 to 100

CHOPS01

I'll probably regret it but calling to a lad tomorrow to pick up a few calves. Young lad was plaguing me to get him a horse if you don't mind. So now we're onto calves.
1 neighbour is locked up and another lad is sold out. Thet put me onto a lad with limos. What would I be looking at for bulls. Hasn't be calves off milking cows here since the mid 90s.

Castlekeeper

CHOPS01 wrote: »

I'll probably regret it but calling to a lad tomorrow to pick up a few calves. Young lad was plaguing me to get him a horse if you don't mind. So now we're onto calves.
1 neighbour is locked up and another lad is sold out. Thet put me onto a lad with limos. What would I be looking at for bulls. Hasn't be calves off milking cows here since the mid 90s.

Up and down from 200 depending on age and quality.

jimini0

CHOPS01 wrote: »

I'll probably regret it but calling to a lad tomorrow to pick up a few calves. Young lad was plaguing me to get him a horse if you don't mind. So now we're onto calves.
1 neighbour is locked up and another lad is sold out. Thet put me onto a lad with limos. What would I be looking at for bulls. Hasn't be calves off milking cows here since the mid 90s.

I have 2 limos here for the kids. I paid 220 each for 21 days old. He delivered them too. I put a water heater in the shed. They mix up the powder and into the teat feeders. Have a small field beside the shed they go out in during the day and in on straw at night. Great way to entertain the kids while they off school.

kerryjack

jimini0 wrote: »

I have 2 limos here for the kids. I paid 220 each for 21 days old. He delivered them too. I put a water heater in the shed. They mix up the powder and into the teat feeders. Have a small field beside the shed they go out in during the day and in on straw at night. Great way to entertain the kids while they off school.

That's the way to do it, people wonder than when a lad turns 17 and 18 have no interest in farming its because they weren't encouraged, good on you that's great to encourage kids and farming and animal husbandry.

CHOPS01

jimini0 wrote: »

I have 2 limos here for the kids. I paid 220 each for 21 days old. He delivered them too. I put a water heater in the shed. They mix up the powder and into the teat feeders. Have a small field beside the shed they go out in during the day and in on straw at night. Great way to entertain the kids while they off school.

These lads are 10 to 14 days old so was thinking bout €180 to €200 alright.
That's the perfect set up you have. I'm just hoping the 2 kids will see it out so that I don't end up with all the work of rearing them.
But hopefully like your lads it will be something to get me out of the house.
I'll be asking plenty of questions on rearing calves in the coming weeks !

jimini0

CHOPS01 wrote: »

These lads are 10 to 14 days old so was thinking bout €180 to €200 alright.
That's the perfect set up you have. I'm just hoping the 2 kids will see it out so that I don't end up with all the work of rearing them.
But hopefully like your lads it will be something to get me out of the house.
I'll be asking plenty of questions on rearing calves in the coming weeks !

As the man told me clean bed clean health.

My only problem i have is them sucking each other after the milk. I put Stockholm tar on them they must like the taste of that. Now they are a black sticky mess. I added a litre of water to the feeder after the milk thinking that might fill them up. Still at it.

amacca

What he reckon is the right price for 6/7 week old Angus cross heifers out of Holstein....well done, look good.

And 3 week old aax bulls ...healthy but small, don't look great especially in the rear...narrow arses....

Toetohand

amacca wrote: »

What he reckon is the right price for 6/7 week old Angus cross heifers out of Holstein....well done, look good.

And 3 week old aax bulls ...healthy but small, don't look great especially in the rear...narrow arses....

Sold similar (March born) heifers about a week ago. 130 a piece. Bulls sold were same age about 6 weeks 200 a piece. I don’t know what kind of price that was but was delighted to see the back of them! They were well done though.
We’d have roughly 75/25 hol/Fr here as long as it’s not extreme Holstein that narrow arse wouldn’t be long filling out!
Had brought a mix of AAx bulls heifers to mart about third week in April 100 for AAx heifers 150 for bulls. Went private sale after that experience.
South of country so would say there are plenty of them around.

Anto_Meath

Looking at a calf mart sale on line there, nice bits of of HEx bulls 2 months plus making €300 - €350, would the like of them be OK now on meal or would they need milk?

Base price

Anto_Meath wrote: »

Looking at a calf mart sale on line there, nice bits of of HEx bulls 2 months plus making €300 - €350, would the like of them be OK now on meal or would they need milk?

The rule of thumb is if a calf is eating 1kg of crunch/pencils per day which is when they are around 8 weeks of age, then they can be weaned.

Anto_Meath

Base price wrote: »

The rule of thumb is if a calf is eating 1kg of crunch/pencils per day which is when they are around 8 weeks of age, then they can be weaned.

Thanks Base, they look good on camera, square looking, & was thinking ok value wise. Like in the back end they would probably make €450, so with meal & that it would work out near enough the same.

Siamsa Sessions

Saw on Carnaross that 4-week old AAx heifers went from 140-240 yesterday.

Would nearly be half tempted to turn ours here after weighing them: 7-8 weeks old, 90-100kg AAx heifers, eating nearly 1kg meal

Would they be worth 250-300?

tanko

What are dairy x Lim bulls 2-3 months old worth?
They're dehorned, out on grass and eating ration.
A neighbour is thinking about buying them, don't know what kind of quality they are.

Castlekeeper

tanko wrote: »

What are dairy x Lim bulls 2-3 months old worth?
They're dehorned, out on grass and eating ration.
A neighbour is thinking about buying them, don't know what kind of quality they are.

2-400 depending on quality?

early_riser

What are good square British fr bull calves making at the minute?? neighbour has some to sell i was wondering roughly what to offer him

whelan2

early_riser wrote: »

What are good square British fr bull calves making at the minute?? neighbour has some to sell i was wondering roughly what to offer him

What age? Friend went to the mart the other day and fr made 35 to 135. 35 was a very bad calf

early_riser

whelan2 wrote: »

What age? Friend went to the mart the other day and fr made 35 to 135. 35 was a very bad calf

3-4 weeks old and well done

Millionaire only not

early_riser wrote: »

3-4 weeks old and well done

Weanlings March friesians in Kilrush average quality-230kgs -€ 305

No matter how good them calves are , there’s a limit what there worth

Bass Reeves

Millionaire only not wrote: »

Weanlings March friesians in Kilrush average quality-230kgs -€ 305

No matter how good them calves are , there’s a limit what there worth

I often make this point to people. Everything has a value relative to your market/margin for it. At present as you day Friesian weanling in Kilrush 300euro, 400kg 18-20month old Friesians are 570-600

What's the market for these calves. Is it slaughtered out of the shed in early 2023 under 30 months. Is it as stores in April2023 or to Cary to finish in summer 2023.

There a lot of 2020 calves in the country. While the farmer producing a decent calf needs a margin a d the lad that produces a store needs a margin, the lad finishing needs one as well.

While this Autumn I am concentrating on picking up cattle next Autumn I be concentrating on buying price much more than this year