Hip Hop 2018

Camac Hibs

https://noveliss.bandcamp.com/album/cerebral-apex

New from Noveliss from Clear Soul Forces, decent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMWJeix5Utg

peteeeed

New Eminem album has dropped exec produced by Dre ‘ kamikaze

peteeeed

album cover

StringerBell

Listening to it now, enjoying it so far anyway

Boom_Bap

I'm actually looking forward to listening to the Em album.

Underground

Listened through it there, gonna give it a few more spins but on first listen it's much better than Revival (very low bar to clear but still).

Boom_Bap

Camac Hibs wrote: »

https://noveliss.bandcamp.com/album/cerebral-apex

New from Noveliss from Clear Soul Forces, decent

Nice one, I'll give this a spin, there were 2 people in CSF that were immediately the talent, Nove and Illajide

Ardennes1944

First few songs are the best, last 3 are on first listen, very poor.

Just listened to the first 4 tracks

Pure venom!!

TheMilkyPirate

There's a few decent tracks and some golden lines but "Stepping stone" and the last 3 tracks on the album are utter shite.

MD1990

Eminem's flow is awful.

Good production but is is another average album.

RocketRaccoon

MD1990 wrote: »

Eminem's flow is awful.

Good production but is is another average album.

What a load of utter utter bollox. His best album since TES, better than SSLP. Absolutely destroys so many of todays frauds.

Osmosis Jones

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

What a load of utter utter bollox. His best album since TES, better than SSLP. Absolutely destroys so many of todays frauds.

Okay so I haven't listen to the album yet but what on earth, for one it's only been out for like a few hours, and also Eminem's been a mess musically for over a decade so to say it "destroys so many of todays frauds" is some claim.

henryforde80

Only Album I can listen to more than once since Encore.

This should have been the Marshall Mathers LP 2 along with Bad guy.

RocketRaccoon

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Okay so I haven't listen to the album yet but what on earth, for one it's only been out for like a few hours, and also Eminem's been a mess musically for over a decade so to say it "destroys so many of todays frauds" is some claim.

Give it a listen.

The First track he's popping shots at everyone

https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/people-eminem-disses-surprise-album-kamikaze-2372804

Brendan Filone

Pleasantly surprised by the Em album, thought he was finished after the horrendous 'Revival' but this album here is definitely a solid effort. I really can’t hate on any songs on it. Just a straight Hip-Hop album, he is just straight spitting.

kunst nugget

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Okay so I haven't listen to the album yet but what on earth, for one it's only been out for like a few hours, and also Eminem's been a mess musically for over a decade so to say it "destroys so many of todays frauds" is some claim.

I'm a bit mystified how someone could say that his flow is awful on it.

kunst nugget

kunst nugget wrote: »

I'm a bit mystified how someone could say that his flow is awful on it.

It's the best he's sounded in years IMO

Brendan Filone

Fred The Red wrote: »

The First track he's popping shots at everyone

https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/people-eminem-disses-surprise-album-kamikaze-2372804

Em came out throwing grenades at any and everyone that’s spoken foul on him and I’m fucking with that energy. Shit's like the bullied white kid that finally snaps and shoots up the school... and that’s the beauty of it.

RocketRaccoon

Brendan Filone wrote: »

Em came out throwing grenades at any and everyone that’s spoken foul on him and I’m fucking with that energy. Shit's like the bullied white kid that finally snaps and shoots up the school... and that’s the beauty of it.

Its slim shady from 15+ years ago and it's beautiful.

https://twitter.com/samaksh97/status/1035565278275543046?s=19

fitzparker

MGK responds to eminem

Video not working, here is link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sNCyiyIc_8

Boom_Bap

I listened to the Em album this morning.
First song is a verse too long after starting off brilliantly.
Then there are average beats and Em rapping about how people give out about him too much, then a diss track for MGK.
There was one point where one of the tracks beats flipped, sounded real good and then fizzled out.
Then there is Em singing hooks.
Then there is more moaning from Em.


I have to admit, it's alot better than his last few albums, Em is rapping better, but it's very whingey and he really does have a complex where he is the greatest rapper alive and that his last few albums have been the best thing ever and that critics are against him.
He also forays into politics again on it which just sucks.


I'll listen to it again but my initial impressions are that I'll keep 1 or 2 tracks and bin the rest.


I have to admit, the MGK song is pretty damn good as well.

VW 1

I've listened to it twice now, and i dont know where i sit with it.

He's throwing a lot of disses out and talking about how he's great, but I just can't seem to get into it. It sounds good in terms of style, almost like the Marshall Mathers LP for cadence and tone, the beats are nice, but there's so little to it other than slagging people off I'm struggling.

RocketRaccoon

That MGK track is laughable, dissing Eminems beard and clothes? Looking forward to the reply that will bury him.

Boom_Bap

Em wears deadly t-shirts, he can't diss them

MD1990

MGK makes valid points.

Good diss. Eminem doesn't respond he looks very weak. About time someone responded to him.

RocketRaccoon

MD1990 wrote: »

MGK makes valid points.

Good diss. Eminem doesn't respond he looks very weak. About time someone responded to him.

"his ****in beard is weird"
"****in dweeb, all you do is read the dictionary and stay inside"
"Damn, he a younger me
Except he dresses better and I'm ugly
Always making fun of me"
"you were named after a candy"

Aswell as far too many references to Eminems age, this is far from a good diss. On top of that mentioning Hailie and Kim, MGK is done once the response comes out.

Boom_Bap

He actually has some great lines in it besides the corny stuff


"Took you six years and a surprise album just to come with a diss"


"When you the one that called Diddy (facts)
Then you went and called Jimmy (facts)
They conference called me in the morning (what?)
They told me you mad about a tweet
You wanted me to say sorry (what?)
I swear to God I ain’t believe him (nah)
Please say it ain’t so (no)
The big bad bully of the rap game can’t take a ****ing joke"


"“I’m not afraid,” okay Oscar the Grouch, chill on the couch" the delivery of that is hilarious mocking his accents/cadence.


The 'beef' is alot deeper than what is on the surface, i think it started when MGK said Hallie was hot or something, then Em used his contacts to get MGK banned from radio and stuff.
MGK dissed him on a Tech Nine song, then Em bit back on the new album and the MGK unleashed this a couple of days later.
So I'd forgive some of the corny stuff, as this was rushed out.

RocketRaccoon

Boom_Bap wrote: »

He actually has some great lines in it besides the corny stuff


"Took you six years and a surprise album just to come with a diss"


"When you the one that called Diddy (facts)
Then you went and called Jimmy (facts)
They conference called me in the morning (what?)
They told me you mad about a tweet
You wanted me to say sorry (what?)
I swear to God I ain’t believe him (nah)
Please say it ain’t so (no)
The big bad bully of the rap game can’t take a ****ing joke"


"“I’m not afraid,” okay Oscar the Grouch, chill on the couch" the delivery of that is hilarious mocking his accents/cadence.


The 'beef' is alot deeper than what is on the surface, i think it started when MGK said Hallie was hot or something, then Em used his contacts to get MGK banned from radio and stuff.
MGK dissed him on a Tech Nine song, then Em bit back on the new album and the MGK unleashed this a couple of days later.
So I'd forgive some of the corny stuff, as this was rushed out.

Ya it's from a tweet he put out about Hailie, Em basically called him a paedophile and MGK didn't even comment on that in the diss. He's getting himself a lot of attention that he otherwise wouldn't have got so fair play to him but I fully expect him to be destroyed within a few days.

Boom_Bap

I'd love to see a response from Em, I'm not sure that'll happen though.

Osmosis Jones

It's just funny to me that even the guy Eminem disses feels like he hasn't been relevant for years. Is he gonna go for Soulja Boy next?

RocketRaccoon

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

It's just funny to me that even the guy Eminem disses feels like he hasn't been relevant for years. Is he gonna go for Soulja Boy next?

Eminem will forever be more relevant than machine gun Kelly.

Boom_Bap

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Eminem will forever be more relevant than machine gun Kelly.

Em has been clawing at relevance for the past 5 or 6 years and moaning about not being held in the highest regard.


FYI - I was with my mates billions of years ago downloading freestyle from Em on 56k modem before there were any albums...well maybe Infinite but there was no digital version of it back then.
I still think that he is up there as one of, in not the best technically gifted rapper. But his subject matter and beat choice and his own image of himself irk me.

RocketRaccoon

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Em has been clawing at relevance for the past 5 or 6 years and moaning about not being held in the highest regard.


FYI - I was with my mates billions of years ago downloading freestyle from Em on 56k modem before there were any albums...well maybe Infinite but there was no digital version of it back then.
I still think that he is up there as one of, in not the best technically gifted rapper. But his subject matter and beat choice and his own image of himself irk me.

IMO Kamikaze shoots him right back to the top of that relevance list. I was the same as you, hunting down freestyles and then Infinite on crap 56k connections, I've always had a spot for him and I credit him with getting me into rap in the first place.

Boom_Bap

Here's the video for fall. There's actually a lot of clever wordplay going on in some parts of this now that I listen again. I still think that the beat is lackluster though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfTbHITdhEI

Boom_Bap

The Joe Budden Podcast today is a must listen, I'm 1 hour 44 minutes in and it's just moved onto MGK after discussing Em/Shady and loads of other stuff.

MD1990

Boom_Bap wrote: »

The Joe Budden Podcast today is a must listen, I'm 1 hour 44 minutes in and it's just moved onto MGK after discussing Em/Shady and loads of other stuff.

Very interesting listen.

Makes some good points but sounds paranoid at times.

When he was saying Eminem beats were terrible I have no idea why Budden & SH went along with it.

Underground

I thought Em's Disses of Budden and Tyler were unwarranted. Budden had valid criticisms of Revival and was always fair in his criticism imo, always enjoy listening to his podcast.

The "Tyler create nothing" line rings a little hollow aswell when you compare Flowerboy to Revival.

Jack Moore

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Here's the video for fall. There's actually a lot of clever wordplay going on in some parts of this now that I listen again. I still think that the beat is lackluster though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfTbHITdhEI

My Apple Music copy has this as kamakasi and kamaki as fall

Jack Moore

Jack Moore wrote: »

My Apple Music copy has this as kamakasi and kamaki as fall

Apparently it’s thing I like to listen to a new album on repeat without googling it for at least 5 days so I can form my opinion in a vacuum

Boom_Bap

MD1990 wrote: »

Very interesting listen.

Makes some good points but sounds paranoid at times.

When he was saying Eminem beats were terrible I have no idea why Budden & SH went along with it.

He was saying that they would submit a track to the label and when released it would have a different beat and verses chopped from it. That's ultimately why the last album can shelved because Joe did kick up a fuss.


He was also saying that the beats given to them by the label were all 'Em' style beats and if 3 people agreed to it, he'd have to go along with the beat as well.


In fairness, my main criticism of Joes doscog is the beat selection.

Underground wrote: »

I thought Em's Disses of Budden and Tyler were unwarranted. Budden had valid criticisms of Revival and was always fair in his criticism imo, always enjoy listening to his podcast.

The "Tyler create nothing" line rings a little hollow aswell when you compare Flowerboy to Revival.

In the podcast, Joe is basically saying that Em probably wasn't listening and hearing things 3rd or 4th hand which is where the diss came from. Em also fires shots and Charlamagne and Akademiks in the same verse.....it's been 8 months since they talked about Em.


No idea why Tyler is being targeted though.



Anyway, I've jumping back in to the podcast now where the MGK discussion is beginning.

TheMilkyPirate

Mac Millar dead at age 26, Suspected overdose

Whatsisname

Heart broken. A stupidly talented human being. Swimming is AOTY for me. RIP Mac.

The Floyd p

What a ****ing shame, proper talented artist and really seemed to be turning a corner with respect to his personal life, unfortunately that didn't materialise, proper shame. RIP

Enjoyed MGK diss.

Fair ****s, johnny big balls had the guts to do it.

Clever too. He's after gaining about a million subscribers in a week.

And his diss has over 40 million views.

His label should be looking for him to release and album ASAP

Looking forward to reply from Eminem but not 100% sure it will happen

Bit of heat in hip-hop was needed. Eminem dropping bombs has woken a few up.

Edit* pretty good freestyle here too and new also

https://youtu.be/8UQY4gmzkGI

Sprinter Sacre

That Eminem album is woeful. It is better than the one before this but that album was one of the worst albums I ever listened to fully. He'd fallen off completely when he was making tunes with Rihanna and Pink but that album sounds like a masterpiece compared to what this is. He's really starting to do a KRS One and hurt his legacy with absolute gutter albums and rapping just for the sake of saying he's doing something.