Limerick GAA Discussion Part 2

Slieve Gullion · 26-01-2020 2:06pm

Greensoup wrote: »

Big wides total again tonight. Unless it’s reduced it will cost us later in the year. Kilkenny last year in semi final, tipp in 2018 league semi, Kilkenny in qualifiers in 2017 all lost because we had double their wides. All Ireland final also saw another huge wides hall that we got away with.

Apart from practise how else can we get them to improve on the wides?

How can you mimic the onfield pressure? A v B matches?

There must be some particular drill to focus on shot taking under out of this world intensity.

Greensoup · 26-01-2020 3:29pm

Slieve Gullion wrote: »

Apart from practise how else can we get them to improve on the wides?

How can you mimic the onfield pressure? A v B matches?

There must be some particular drill to focus on shot taking under out of this world intensity.

I don’t know but a lot of the wides are repeats of other matches like long range pot shots and Aaron Gillane off his right hand side like his wide near the end. Good defenders will turn him onto his right like Kilkenny marker kept trying last July....he was forced onto his right a lot that evening in Croker and missed.

Luimneach2018 · 27-01-2020 10:09am

Bit of a reality check.

The wides I can accept but we were totally dominated in the first half. Wides were an issue in 2018 but we were creating so many chances and working so hard that it didn't really matter. You can get away with 15-20 wides if on top of that you take 25+ scores.

Bigger problem that they have a tendency to take too long to get up to speed in games. After all three Munster Hurling league games Kiely spoke of having to ask/tell them at half time to up the work rate in the second half and he once again had to deliver that message on Saturday. I don't know if it's a warm up issue or a psychological issue but they need to get on top of that. Same thing gave them an absolute mountain to climb against Kilkenny in the semi final, a mountain they very nearly climbed in the end. The 65' that never was at the end of that game was annoying and a bit of an injustice but it's not the reason we lost. The poor start killed us.

The "new" players that started; Hennessy, Nash, Hanley, Reidy, Dempsey - all bar Hanley have All-Ireland medals from 2018 and they're all relatively experienced now, so it wasn't a weak team as such, and certainly not inexperienced. The likes of Connolly, O'Grady, O'Connell and Boylan who were given game time pre season weren't used yesterday; I'd happily sacrifice the league in the name of giving the likes of those four players game time, especially given the new less competitive format.

The substitutions yesterday told you all you needed to know about the approach being taken by both camps to the league.

A win is a win but we haven't learned much other than they need to get their asses in gear from the moment the sliothar is thrown in, at our best we can beat anyone, but not if we allow teams build up 8+ point leads on us.

paddy no 11 · 31-01-2020 10:12pm

Strong team

pajoguy · 31-01-2020 11:41pm

paddy no 11 wrote: »

Strong team

Bench not too bad either....

washman3 · 31-01-2020 11:57pm

Quaid

Costello Finn English
Morrossey Hannon Nash

DOD WOD

Hegarty Morrossey Reidy
Dempsey Flanagan Mulcahy.

SUBS ; Hennessy, Condon, Byrnes, Lynch, C.Boylan, Gillane, Hanley, O'Loughlin, Quinlan, O'Connell and Brian Ryan.

Hawkeye9212 · 01-02-2020 12:30am

Limerick team to play London in NFL Division 4.

1. Donal Ó Sullivan Monaleen (Captain)
2. Paul Maher Adare
3. Brian Fanning Pallasgreen
4. Michael Donovan Galbally
5. Tony McCarthy Kildimo/Pallaskenry
6. Iain Corbett Newcastle West
7. Robert Childs Galtee Gaels
8. Tommy Griffin Gerald Griffins
9. Adrian Enright Fr Caseys
10. Pádraig De Brún Firies
11. Cillian Fahy Dromcollogher/Broadford
12. Seamus Ó Carroll Castleknock
13. Jamie Lee Newcastle West
14. Danny Neville Ballysteen
15. Josh Ryan Úbhla
16. John Chawke Kildimo/Pallaskenry
17. Gerard Stack Gerald Griffins
18. Gareth Noonan Dromcollogher/Broadford
19. Darren O’Doherty Newcastle West
20. Tommie Childs Galtee Gaels
21. Sean O’Dea Kilteely Dromkeen
22. Patrick Begley Mungret/St Pauls
23. Padraig Scanlon Glin
24. Hugh Bourke Adare
25. James Naughton St Senans
26. Davy Lyons Áth Dara

lim4ev · 13-02-2020 12:04am

Whatever team the mgmt put out sat night I'd like to see Costello in fb line plus flanagan again at 14 both need buckets of game time

billyhead · 13-02-2020 8:17am

lim4ev wrote: »

Whatever team the mgmt put out sat night I'd like to see Costello in fb line plus flanagan again at 14 both need buckets of game time

The weather on Saturday night force the match to be postponed. There's another storm on the way.

BloodyBill · 13-02-2020 1:11pm

Hawkeye9212 wrote: »

Limerick team to play London in NFL Division 4.

1. Donal Ó Sullivan Monaleen (Captain)
2. Paul Maher Adare
3. Brian Fanning Pallasgreen
4. Michael Donovan Galbally
5. Tony McCarthy Kildimo/Pallaskenry
6. Iain Corbett Newcastle West
7. Robert Childs Galtee Gaels
8. Tommy Griffin Gerald Griffins
9. Adrian Enright Fr Caseys
10. Pádraig De Brún Firies
11. Cillian Fahy Dromcollogher/Broadford
12. Seamus Ó Carroll Castleknock
13. Jamie Lee Newcastle West
14. Danny Neville Ballysteen
15. Josh Ryan Úbhla
16. John Chawke Kildimo/Pallaskenry
17. Gerard Stack Gerald Griffins
18. Gareth Noonan Dromcollogher/Broadford
19. Darren O’Doherty Newcastle West
20. Tommie Childs Galtee Gaels
21. Sean O’Dea Kilteely Dromkeen
22. Patrick Begley Mungret/St Pauls
23. Padraig Scanlon Glin
24. Hugh Bourke Adare
25. James Naughton St Senans
26. Davy Lyons Áth Dara

2 from Limerick city on the panel..shur where are you going in the long term with this.

BloodyBill · 13-02-2020 1:13pm

lim4ev wrote: »

Whatever team the mgmt put out sat night I'd like to see Costello in fb line plus flanagan again at 14 both need buckets of game time

Definitely both need the games. Flanagan is so unselfish and can see a good pass. If he could only work on his touch and scoring. Hes worth his place

lim4ev · 13-02-2020 10:37pm

billyhead wrote: »

The weather on Saturday night force the match to be postponed. There's another storm o

Saw that hope it goes ahead

PTH2009 · 13-02-2020 11:06pm

lim4ev wrote: »

billyhead wrote: »

The weather on Saturday night force the match to be postponed. There's another storm o

Saw that hope it goes ahead

Postponing the game or any of this weekends games will really **** the whole schedule up. The rest of the NHL is to be run off this weekend to the final on the 22nd March

Could be another double header in Croke Park on the last Sunday in March

Mehapoy · 14-02-2020 2:47am

BloodyBill wrote: »

Definitely both need the games. Flanagan is so unselfish and can see a good pass. If he could only work on his touch and scoring. Hes worth his place

I think flanagan is vital to the way the forward line operates, he seems to have vision that none of our other forwards have, hopefully he tidies up some aspects of his game and is a regular starter through the summer.

lim4ev · 14-02-2020 10:26pm

Mehapoy wrote: »

I think flanagan is vital to the way the forward line operates, he seems to have vision that none of our other forwards have, hopefully he tidies up some aspects of his game and is a regular starter through the summer.

1000000000000000% agree

paddyirish23 · 15-02-2020 3:13pm

Match off tonight, looks like tomorrow at 2pm now

KevIRL · 15-02-2020 3:36pm

With an orange warning in place for limerick all day tomorrow, it's surely more than likely not to go ahead this weekend at all?

boomerang · 15-02-2020 3:49pm

Wonder what they will do then as the Cork match is next weekend isn't it?

Greensoup · 15-02-2020 3:55pm

if it ain’t played 2moro they put extra week onto league. Same as last year when some games got called off. League hurling final put back a week as part of double header with football final.

PTH2009 · 15-02-2020 4:03pm

Hardly play it midweek

lim4ev · 15-02-2020 4:39pm

Greensoup wrote: »

if it ain’t played 2moro they put extra week onto league. Same as last year when some games got called off. League hurling final put back a week as part of double header with football final.

That would be great no matter who's in the league final it should be played in croke park.

No chance this game will be played tomorrow

Greensoup · 15-02-2020 7:03pm

Eir sport showed footage from Gaelic grounds. Pitch in front of mackey stand is waterlogged with a fair bit of surface water. Subs area has a lot of water in it as well. Touch and go for tomorrow I’d say.

Greensoup · 16-02-2020 1:44pm

Seeing the u20 football on Wednesday moved to Rathkeale shows the pitch in the Gaelic grounds must be in bad state.

mountgomery burns · 16-02-2020 2:11pm

The surface in a lot of the County grounds is brutal, Gaelic Grounds, Pairc UI Chaoimh and Walsh Park to name a few. Makes you wonder, has to have been better land around when these places were developed first.

BloodyBill · 16-02-2020 8:01pm

mountgomery burns wrote: »

The surface in a lot of the County grounds is brutal, Gaelic Grounds, Pairc UI Chaoimh and Walsh Park to name a few. Makes you wonder, has to have been better land around when these places were developed first.

Pairc Ui Caoimh has a brilliant surface now. Gaelic Grounds does in Spring and summer. No ground stands up to torrents of rain

windy shepard henderson · 16-02-2020 9:54pm

BloodyBill wrote: »

Pairc Ui Caoimh has a brilliant surface now. Gaelic Grounds does in Spring and summer. No ground stands up to torrents of rain

i dont think people understand just how open limerick is to the elements , it may as well be perched on the Atlantic cost like galway , they usally get it as bad even though they appear to be more inland , its all down to the tidal system in the shannon that attracts bad weather , pitch in limerick is good but has a lot to put up with

plus it was no bad thing that hundreds of tipperary and waterford supporters were spared the turmoil of a 2 hour plus drive in them conditions this weekend

mountgomery burns · 16-02-2020 11:08pm

BloodyBill wrote: »

Pairc Ui Caoimh has a brilliant surface now. Gaelic Grounds does in Spring and summer. No ground stands up to torrents of rain

Ah cmon, they closed the ground down for half a year. Waterford and Cork played in a sandpit in the league in 2018. The north stand side suffers from a lack of natural light also.

Maybe these are issues that will be addressed over time but it's definitely had problems since reopening.

I've seen boglike conditions in the Gaelic Grounds. Plenty of pitches stand up to poor conditions, this is Ireland after all.

Ennis looked very well to me today for example.

BloodyBill · 17-02-2020 3:41pm

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Ah cmon, they closed the ground down for half a year. Waterford and Cork played in a sandpit in the league in 2018. The north stand side suffers from a lack of natural light also.

Maybe these are issues that will be addressed over time but it's definitely had problems since reopening.

I've seen boglike conditions in the Gaelic Grounds. Plenty of pitches stand up to poor conditions, this is Ireland after all.

Ennis looked very well to me today for example.

Cork just got a new million euro pitch. Ennis was redone a few years ago with a great drainage system put in. I think yesterday it was the wind that put paid to the match in Limerick but it's not a great winter pitch anyway. On the other hand it's a super Spring and summer pitch as you could see from last years Munster final ect..probably one of the best surfaces in Ireland when the hurling Championship is in full swing. It is open to the Cratloe hills but to compare it to the exposure that Pearse stadium endures is ridiculous. There are some fantastic pitches in Limerick..the markets field, Thomond Park, Garryowen have a great pitch.

17-02-2020 10:17pm

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Ah cmon, they closed the ground down for half a year. Waterford and Cork played in a sandpit in the league in 2018. The north stand side suffers from a lack of natural light also.

Maybe these are issues that will be addressed over time but it's definitely had problems since reopening.

I've seen boglike conditions in the Gaelic Grounds. Plenty of pitches stand up to poor conditions, this is Ireland after all.

Ennis looked very well to me today for example.

The Gaelic Grounds is built on marshy land, my parents would have remembered when Ashbrook (across the road from it) was flooded fields, though the Gaelic Grounds is far older than the estates around it afaik.

Interestingly, there's been a few floods on the Northside of the city in the last 12 months, might be something more significant going on.

pajoguy · 17-02-2020 10:36pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The Gaelic Grounds is built on marshy land, my parents would have remembered when Ashbrook (across the road from it) was flooded fields, though the Gaelic Grounds is far older than the estates around it afaik.

Interestingly, there's been a few floods on the Northside of the city in the last 12 months, might be something more significant going on.

The floods around caherdavin last year were caused by the OPW leaving a big gaping hole in flood defenses over a weekend. Be grand they said.

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