Airbus rolls out first A321neo ACF

Comhrá

...will be able to fly up to 240 passengers over a distance of 4000nm.

http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2018/01/airbus-rolls-out-first-a321neo-acf.html

kevinandrew

The external design of this aircraft (new door config) will be the base of the A321LR which we'll be seeing a lot more of in the near future with Aer Lingus ordering 8 of them so far. 

I always thought the A321 was the ugly duckling of the Airbus narrow body line up until the NEO came along, now it's one of the best looking out there in my opinion!

Tenger

I think I missed something along the way. (Probably read it 3 years ago and forgot)
Is the ACF seperate to the standard A321neo? Or is it a 3rd version?
I just thought they were offering A321neo and A321LR.

Dardania

The raccoon bandit mask was all they needed to add to make it transatlantic capable!

Odelay

", the A321neo offers a reduction in fuel consumption of at least 15 percent per seat from day one and 20 percent by 2020."

How will they reduce consumption by a further 5% in two years? By further design improvents or is there a run-in improvement that I'm not aware of?

john boye

Tenger wrote: »

I think I missed something along the way. (Probably read it 3 years ago and forgot)
Is the ACF seperate to the standard A321neo? Or is it a 3rd version?
I just thought they were offering A321neo and A321LR.

I think the ACF (Airbus Cabin Flex) version allows for the higher density config, up to 240 seats. It will be the standard neo config from 2020 apparently.

IE 222

Odelay wrote: »

", the A321neo offers a reduction in fuel consumption of at least 15 percent per seat from day one and 20 percent by 2020."

How will they reduce consumption by a further 5% in two years? By further design improvents or is there a run-in improvement that I'm not aware of?

My reading of it is the ACF is a 3rd variant option currently , which offers an extra 5% than the Neo but will become the standard NEO version come 2020.

goingnowhere

No more the L/R2 door does make a difference in cabin real estate, 2 seats and several inches of space back.

I can't recall EI ever using the L/R2 door on the A321, too close to the wing and engine

It also means the wing box/fuselage section is common with the A320

Locker10a

goingnowhere wrote: »

No more the L/R2 door does make a difference in cabin real estate, 2 seats and several inches of space back.

I can't recall EI ever using the L/R2 door on the A321, too close to the wing and engine

It also means the wing box/fuselage section is common with the A320

The only thing is it makes the business class experience less private and relaxed as the cattle trudge their way through to economy while business class are trying to sip their champers during boarding.

goingnowhere

Walked through the front on A330 and 777 many a time to L1.

To get the door to work Airbus would have to move the door forward 1-2 frames as the wing is too close.

Locker10a

goingnowhere wrote: »

Walked through the front on A330 and 777 many a time to L1.

To get the door to work Airbus would have to move the door forward 1-2 frames as the wing is too close.

Yeah I believe the engine is considered to close to the moving jet bridge or steps and so airlines generally don’t use 2L on the current A321. So I guess they decided to drop that design entirely in favour of more seats and over wing exits.
I wonder where the economy Lavs will be?
All the way at the rear or doors 3, or should that technically be doors 2 on this design ?

Tenger

goingnowhere wrote: »

I can't recall EI ever using the L/R2 door on the A321, too close to the wing and engine

It also means the wing box/fuselage section is common with the A320

EI used to board from L2 door a long time ago. I remember it very clearly from my time there.

The little galley was beside door L2 and there was a huge amount of space ay the door for boarding.
It probably stopped post 2003/4 wjen EI stopped focusing the A321 on their LHR route.