Werewolf XXII - Disney Classics Showdown

Bounty Hunter

I might have about 20more mins but if I do get killed (and later revealed good) look back on the people who played follow the leader instead of having their own reasonings when voting.

beakerjoe

UPDATE again with Arabs FFA

Player | #1 | #2 | #3
Bounty Hunter | Flush | MrKingsley | Grumpy
Banjo | Quickbeam | MrKingsely | DarkDolly
Lord TSC | BountyH | Flush | Mr Kingsley
sKeith | PartyJ | Flush | BountyH
Beakerjoe | PartyJ | BountyH | Mr Kingsley
Flush | BountyH | Beaker | Lord
Quickbeam | BountyH | PartyJ | Trit
Strawbs | BountyH | Lord | Beaker
Mr Kingsley | Beaker | Barney | PartyJ
Virt | DollyDark | Grumpy | PartyJ
Oxy | Beaker | Tritium | Arab
Tritium | DollyDark | Lord | Grumpy
Grumpy | PartyJ | BountyH | Flush
Guffy | PartyJ | DollyDark | Oxy
Barney | PartyJ | Beaker | Grumpy
Arab | Bounty H | Mr Kingsley




FFA#1 (day 2)

Anyone Ive missed let me know.


Which means

Party Jungle | 8
Bounty Hunter | 8
Beakerjoe | 5
Mr Kingsley | 5
Grumpy | 4
DollyDark | 4
Flush | 4
Lord TSC | 3
Tritium | 2
Barney | 1
Oxy | 1
Arab | 1
Quickbeam | 1

Bounty Hunter

I understand people don't want to highlight the PJ thing and that people can have their reasons for keeping stum but seeing him jump up FFAs I have to stop thinking about explaining myself and ask if someone can at least point me in the right direction for how to find why he's dodgy?

Virtanen

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

I might have about 20more mins but if I do get killed (and later revealed good) look back on the people who played follow the leader instead of having their own reasonings when voting.

Did you, as Belle, have access to the Beast's Castle from the beginning?

Virtanen

Virtanen wrote: »

Did you, as Belle, have access to the Beast's Castle from the beginning?

Actually scratch that, brain fart

Barney92

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

Yeah you are dead on here. Seems way too powerful a role to be hidden and especially one that has a back room and a person they could tell it all too.

Also, here is my worry. IF Belle chose BH and IF he was a baddy, it would make sense for whichever team BH is with to keep her alive as they will get fed names of whoever she peeks. Such a dangerous dynamic in the game.

What are everyones thoughts in this? is it worth leaving BH alive in case he is, as Barry thought, on team evil and we are drip feeding roles to one of the evil teams?
I may be totally wrong but it could easily be the case.

If the original seer was modkilled I could see them essentially making belle the new seer. It wouldn't exactly be a hidden role if that was the case, more a change in plans.

Having said that, the apprentice seer would be a nice role to claim, because it's plausible enough to do so. You could hope that you out the real seer and/or apprentice, with a potential bonus being a double whammy bodyguard and other wolf dead if the other team target the now outed seer.

Having said having said that, claiming apprentice seer could be refuted by two people depending on how the mechanic works. Belle herself and the real apprentice should they have been chosen.

quickbeam

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

I understand people don't want to highlight the PJ thing and that people can have their reasons for keeping stum but seeing him jump up FFAs I have to stop thinking about explaining myself and ask if someone can at least point me in the right direction for how to find why he's dodgy?

Look for his "retard" post and work back from there, would be my advice.

Bounty Hunter

Virtanen wrote: »

Did you, as Belle, have access to the Beast's Castle from the beginning?

I only had access to Beast's castle once Belle chose me to be her apprentice (after she replaced Beast) yesterday evening your time. I didn't actually use it until much later though due to the time difference and me being at work this morning when I found out i'd been chosen as the Apprentice.

sKeith

Lord TSC wrote: »

I don't buy BH story at all.

A role claim that's unprovable without Belle outing herself, that's just perfectly inconsequential as well so that he doesn't risk the other wolf team hitting him too if they role hunt. It's too convuluted as well.

I cast my vote earlier but won't be changing now.

As it stands, I think BH is bad, has tried a last ditch attempt to muddy the waters and has spun too handy a lie tbh.

Its provable. We ask BH to peek who we demand, and BH tells us the result with zero subterfuge. Let BH live. We either have a direct line to the seer, which the wolves will close very shortly, or we catch him out very very soon.

MrKingsley

Get accused for offering nothing and then offer something. Get accused further. Which one is it?

beakerjoe

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

I understand people don't want to highlight the PJ thing and that people can have their reasons for keeping stum but seeing him jump up FFAs I have to stop thinking about explaining myself and ask if someone can at least point me in the right direction for how to find why he's dodgy?

I had a few suspecions about him from yesterday saying he wasnt bothered with day 1 and was just skimming. Now tahts nothing to hang someone for but it stuck with me.

Now today Keith makes a claim about bullets which PJ popped up to say it was a lie and offered no argumnet why except for "himself being retarded". Very odd. I have a theory about the bullets comment myself but ill be damned if I post it on here, the less the wolves know the better, but my vote was in today for him and Im not changing.

MrKingsley

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

Are you Barry as well?

Haha. There’s only one Barry

quickbeam

MrKingsley wrote: »

Haha. There’s only one Barry

beakerjoe

MrKingsley wrote: »

Get accused for offering nothing and then offer something. Get accused further. Which one is it?

Its just find it hard that you caught up so quickly after saying you were finding it tough. Its a fair comment.

MrsFlushdraw

MrKingsley wrote: »

Haha. There’s only one Barry

It was just that you seemed to be answering the thing where I said Barry said...

So I wondered if you were also Barry and answering instead lol.

tritium

tritium wrote: »

Can you give me a bit more that that PJ? You must have had something in mind but I’m not seeing what?

Oh come on guys. You know why. I don't want to spell it out.

Barney92

MrKingsley wrote: »

Haha. There’s only one Barry

Feel I should mention Barry Scott so he doesn't feel left out.

quickbeam

sKeith wrote: »

Its provable. We ask BH to peek who we demand, and BH tells us the result with zero subterfuge. Let BH live. We either have a direct line to the seer, which the wolves will close very shortly, or we catch him out very very soon.

This isn't a bad idea. I've my vote in for BH, so if we're going with it, I'd need to change it. We collating the FFAs at 7pm and then deciding what to do?

beakerjoe

Barney92 wrote: »

If the original seer was modkilled I could see them essentially making belle the new seer. It wouldn't exactly be a hidden role if that was the case, more a change in plans.

Having said that, the apprentice seer would be a nice role to claim, because it's plausible enough to do so. You could hope that you out the real seer and/or apprentice, with a potential bonus being a double whammy bodyguard and other wolf dead if the other team target the now outed seer.

Having said having said that, claiming apprentice seer could be refuted by two people depending on how the mechanic works. Belle herself and the real apprentice should they have been chosen.

If your Belle and you know BH is lying, you might be tempted to let him be hanged to save yourself the bother of coming out to call BS on him.

Virtanen

Doesn't Barry have the apple to pass on before the lynch too? He hasn't been active today but I hope he remembered to do it

beakerjoe

beakerjoe wrote: »

If your Belle and you know BH is lying, you might be tempted to let him be hanged to save yourself the bother of coming out to call BS on him.

Like if hes lying, see if hes lynched. If hes not lynched, then come out and call bull perhaps.

That being said Id like Belle to keep hidden

quickbeam

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh come on guys. You know why. I don't want to spell it out.

We know why you thought it a lie. I think we're struggling to know why you posted it though.

beakerjoe

Virtanen wrote: »

Doesn't Barry have the apple to pass on before the lynch too? He hasn't been active today but I hope he remembered to do it

Maybe he already did it

Bounty Hunter

sKeith wrote: »

Its provable. We ask BH to peek who we demand, and BH tells us the result with zero subterfuge. Let BH live. We either have a direct line to the seer, which the wolves will close very shortly, or we catch him out very very soon.

The apprentice cannot peek unless something happens to Belle unfortunately.

Just looking back through PJs posts and I think I may know what people were referring to, him getting so annoyed at himself does kinda help to lead the way I guess too. don't know wether i'll switch my vote but tbh its at least as strong a link as I had MsF who I had a placeholder in on so might just.

beakerjoe

quickbeam wrote: »

We know why you thought it a lie. I think we're struggling to know why you posted it though.

BINGO!

MrKingsley

beakerjoe wrote: »

Its just find it hard that you caught up so quickly after saying you were finding it tough. Its a fair comment.

Fair enough. Like I’ve said I’ve just thrown out all the thoughts I’ve come up with

Bounty Hunter

beakerjoe wrote: »

If your Belle and you know BH is lying, you might be tempted to let him be hanged to save yourself the bother of coming out to call BS on him.

its a decent point I hadn't even highlighted though. If someone else is Belle's apprentice they should be calling bullsh!t on my claim as they probably wouldn't be making themselves a top target given we have other confirmed villagers but they would be calling out a baddie should that be the case.

Nobody is coming out though

Banjo

quickbeam wrote: »

I presume the below is the post you're referring to?

Sorry, evening routine in full effect. Baiscally you, Mr k and whoever I was responding to when people asked which 3 I meant.

tritium

Barney92 wrote: »

If the original seer was modkilled I could see them essentially making belle the new seer. It wouldn't exactly be a hidden role if that was the case, more a change in plans.

Having said that, the apprentice seer would be a nice role to claim, because it's plausible enough to do so. You could hope that you out the real seer and/or apprentice, with a potential bonus being a double whammy bodyguard and other wolf dead if the other team target the now outed seer.

Having said having said that, claiming apprentice seer could be refuted by two people depending on how the mechanic works. Belle herself and the real apprentice should they have been chosen.

At this point we really need the genie to confirm something to us

MrsFlushdraw

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

The apprentice cannot peek unless something happens to Belle unfortunately.

Just looking back through PJs posts and I think I may know what people were referring to, him getting so annoyed at himself does kinda help to lead the way I guess too. don't know wether i'll switch my vote but tbh its at least as strong a link as I had MsF who I had a placeholder in on so might just.

Belle can read you know. Maybe if she peeks who we ask and you relay the answer?

And you were going to vote for me why? because I was voting for you? wonderful thinking