Werewolf XXII - Disney Classics Showdown

MrKingsley

Guffy wrote: »

So if flushy is evil and is handed it a second time by an nrv she dies right? And we loose an nrv? Who cares. As i said barney if you dont want to sacrafice yourself as an nrv then give me the apple. I will kill flushy.

I dont see how flushy is good. The lynch wasnt changed to save her she survived it. Herc cannot be immortal.




It is interesting that you are trying to save flush though and dont want to risk barney either. Very much so. Could flush, barney and king be on the same team?

No from what drumpot was saying it’s only if a goodie receives the apple apple from another goodie then they both die.

If the baddies attack a goodie in possession of it something bad happens the baddie.

If a goodie give a baddie the apple then it’s just in their hands and won’t have been triggered yet.

That’s what I am getting from drumpots posts yesterday about it all anyway

Barry_Lyndon

Lord TSC

Cheese?

Guffy

MrKingsley wrote: »

No from what drumpot was saying it’s only if a goodie receives the apple apple from another goodie then they both die.

If the baddies attack a goodie in possession of it something bad happens the baddie.

If a goodie give a baddie the apple then it’s just in their hands and won’t have been triggered yet.

That’s what I am getting from drumpots posts yesterday about it all anyway

Unless it's been received twice? Then the goodie and a baddie both die, no?

MrKingsley

MrKingsley wrote: »

No from what drumpot was saying it’s only if a goodie receives the apple apple from another goodie then they both die.

If the baddies attack a goodie in possession of it something bad happens the baddie.

If a goodie give a baddie the apple then it’s just in their hands and won’t have been triggered yet.

That’s what I am getting from drumpots posts yesterday about it all anyway

That first bit should say if a goodie gives another goodie the apple for a second time

Guffy

K i need a break for a while i think. The apple is wrecking my head.

beakerjoe

beakerjoe wrote: »

While im not suspicious of you as much as yday, you and every unconfirmed player is capable. Why wouldn't you be

Perhaps I have self esteem issues in that case

beakerjoe

Guffy wrote: »

K i need a break for a while i think. The apple is wrecking my head.

Grab a golden delicious

grumpylumpy

Barney92 wrote: »

I've asked a number of times about this. Who I should think about giving it to? Who I should definitely not give it to? Not a peep other than two saying they haven't had it and Kingsley saying 'depends on your allegiance'. I think that's about it on that front.

Guffy wrote: »

Well i think this needs to be discussed at this stage.

Do we risk giving it to an evil?

Can we use it to take out flushy as she had it already? Im nrv if you are not or just dont want to, give it to me and I'll give it to her. Me dying is irrelevant. Assuming people want to take that chance.

Drumpot started the POISON apple and tried to use it to clear himself. In what magical world does a princess hand out a POISON apple? Genuinly asking if one accidently did this. If drumpot is an nrv why did he not fall on his sword?

Guffy wrote: »

So there is no way we can use the apple to our advantage then, is there?

Benefits and drawbacks of having the apple?

Seems that Barney or another NRV need to risk sacrificing themselves if we use it against flushy or PJ. I'd be inclined to go with flushy if we're going to do it cos if she doesn't die AGAIN maybe her herc story holds water (which I don't think it does). This is reminiscent of a witch trial.

Give apple to flushy -> if good, herc story is true and won't die. She was worried about getting the apple yesterday again so prob not herc as well. But will we lose the giver?

Give apple to flushy -> if bad should still die, right? May lose giver

If we're agreed on the above plan I'm happy enough to be cannon fodder for the potential sacrifice

Virtanen

Caught up on the morning's activities

I wouldn't believe BH or Flush at all. BH still hasn't answered this question:

Virtanen wrote: »

Would she really get her seer peek before the lynch results are announced? Fair enough the lynch deadline was 8pm, but because of Mufasa'a power they weren't revealed until 8.30. She could easily have been peeking someone who was about to be announced as dead

Which he has had plenty of chances to do

quickbeam

Back for lunch, and caught up.

In answer to Barney, I've not had the apple yet.

As I said early I'd put a placeholder lynch vote on BH, that was more to do with him not coming back pre-munch like he'd promised to. I *tend* to believe him, with still a healthy dose of skepticism, so prepared to remove him as placeholder. Only question now is: MrsF or Lordy? Lordy or MrsF? Decisions decisions......

Bounty Hunter

Ignoring the apple totally here. Go for Jafar, then Mulan after that others will probably appear from the votes or subsequent deaths

quickbeam

Also ... I love cheese! Above pic is like porn to me :P

Virtanen

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Ignoring the apple totally here. Go for Jafar, then Mulan after that others will probably appear from the votes or subsequent deaths

Answer my question please

The following are evil

#ffa2
MrsFD
Banjo
Bounty Hunter

More to come soon, stay tuned!

Virtanen

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Ignoring the apple totally here. Go for Jafar, then Mulan after that others will probably appear from the votes or subsequent deaths

Also why would you say ignore the apple when the village are trying to plan how to use it as a weapon? I wonder...

grumpylumpy

grumpylumpy wrote: »

Benefits and drawbacks of having the apple?

Seems that Barney or another NRV need to risk sacrificing themselves if we use it against flushy or PJ. I'd be inclined to go with flushy if we're going to do it cos if she doesn't die AGAIN maybe her herc story holds water (which I don't think it does). This is reminiscent of a witch trial.

Give apple to flushy -> if good, herc story is true and won't die. She was worried about getting the apple yesterday again so prob not herc as well. But will we lose the giver?

Give apple to flushy -> if bad should still die, right? May lose giver

If we're agreed on the above plan I'm happy enough to be cannon fodder for the potential sacrifice

Considering myself as the sacrifice (to make myself objective) I can't see a reason not to give flushy the apple. Barney, do it now or if you want to keep playing pass it to me and I will.

quickbeam

Somebody was asking above for a status report...

Still alive:
Tritium
Guffy
partyjungle
ardinn
Banjo - tinkerbell
Virtanen
duffman13
Bounty Hunter - apprentice seer but doesn't rule him out also being a baddie
MrsFlushdraw - claiming Hercules, probable wolf (IMO)
Barney92
Barry_Lyndon - Genie
Lord TSC - IDd as Jafar, denying claim
MrKingsley
Strawberry Milkshake
arabtinian
quickbeam
beakerjoe
grumpylumpy

That's 18 consisting of:
3 Team Magnificent
3 Team Alpha Male
1 SK
11 Goodies including one seer, one priest and one bodyguard

I think the above is right. Feel free to fix any anomalies.

beakerjoe

beakerjoe wrote: »

Do you think King and Lord are a team

I’m not sure but I deffo think both are bad. I quoted a post from lord a few pages back but it’s all messed up (quotes within quotes). In that post, lord is pondering if the seer should come out. This was before BH called them as jafar.

Nobody on the good side would be contemplating a seer reveal at this stage as we’re losing big time. Alarm bells!!!!

On flushy and the apple - gonna look back to yesterday afternoon to see how she responded when Barry was threatening to pass it back. Brb

grumpylumpy

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

On flushy and the apple - gonna look back to yesterday afternoon to see how she responded when Barry was threatening to pass it back. Brb

She objected to my (albeit trigger happy) plan to give it to someone on the FFAs as she'd already had it. Which shouldn't've worried her as Herc

Virtanen

I tried to be subtle and get Barry's attention last night (it was a very obscure reference, so I don't blame him for not seeing it), but I think I have a role related to the apple. I don't know for certain as the Powers That Be haven't gifted me with this information

I didn't want to come out and say it but, let's be honest, the village is in a bad way right now, I think it's time to start some YOLO strats on these mofos

Can someone explain to me why on earth is Bounty Hunter still alive if he's a genuine seer? That's a high priority target for the baddies

Maybe they want the other team to take him out while not risking death by bg?

MrsFlushdraw

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

Barry, you are hyper aggressive with so many things this morning. You expect us all to follow you and if not? we get the apple to kill us off? That attitude is not very townie is it? Or you say you wont speak to someone etc.

I would give you the apple again just to shut you up! Just play the game and stop acting as if you are the GOAT please

This is only one I think

MrKingsley

grumpylumpy wrote: »

Benefits and drawbacks of having the apple?

Seems that Barney or another NRV need to risk sacrificing themselves if we use it against flushy or PJ. I'd be inclined to go with flushy if we're going to do it cos if she doesn't die AGAIN maybe her herc story holds water (which I don't think it does). This is reminiscent of a witch trial.

Give apple to flushy -> if good, herc story is true and won't die. She was worried about getting the apple yesterday again so prob not herc as well. But will we lose the giver?

Give apple to flushy -> if bad should still die, right? May lose giver

If we're agreed on the above plan I'm happy enough to be cannon fodder for the potential sacrifice

Again from all the apple rules posted yesterday. If a goodie gives a baddie the apple then nothing happens except that the baddie has control over it. After that I don’t know what the permutations are

Banjo

That's not cheese.
It's Cheeses.
As in "Cheeses Christ, will you all please stop tunnelling after that ****ing apple????" perhaps?

grumpylumpy

MrKingsley wrote: »

Again from all the apple rules posted yesterday. If a goodie gives a baddie the apple then nothing happens except that the baddie has control over it. After that I don’t know what the permutations are

But we don't know it won't kill them the second time they receive it do we?

MrsFlushdraw

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

Thing is, why would snow white get the apple to pass around? in the story she got given the apple from her step mother posing as the wee old lady!

This is what puzzles me. There is also other roles, one could have been the evil queen to start the apple thing but that is all they do? just a NRV role like the Princesses?

Did flushy not say she didn’t know the nrv were just princess? See her last sentence above.

quickbeam

Deleted User wrote: »

Can someone explain to me why on earth is Bounty Hunter still alive if he's a genuine seer? That's a high priority target for the baddies

Because he's not the seer. Not even claiming to be the seer.

He's claiming apprentice seer.

Belle is still (presumably) out there.

Virtanen

quickbeam wrote: »

Because he's not the seer. Not even claiming to be the seer.

He's claiming apprentice seer.

Belle is still (presumably) out there.

If BH's claim were true, then killing him would sever Belle's relay to the thread, forcing Belle to reveal herself to continue communication