Homeless in warehouse

littelady

Hi all,
To help the homeless could the government open up warehouses, have a soup kitchen in place and have a recruitment specialists in hand and a postal service. They could have a bus circulating Dublin and drop off at the warehouse. I think it would be very efficient why not?

NIMAN

Sounds like a film - District 9?

Cantona's Collars

It'd be cheaper to buy mobile homes and set them up on some of the vacant land the council can't seem to build houses on.

littelady

To build houses for all is so expensive can the country really afford to build thousands of homes and to be honest I feel it would be never ending. I'm talking about getting people off the streets now and let them have some dignity and have a base to help themselves get jobs at the lowest cost to the state.

littelady

Mobile homes can cost tens of thousands and if not respected they would not be standing in a few years time.

Sounds like a great start to a warehouse party scene

littelady

Never seen District 9

weisses

living in warehouses is a typical hipster thing

BorneTobyWilde

littelady wrote: »

Hi all,
To help the homeless could the government open up warehouses, have a soup kitchen in place and have a recruitment specialists in hand and a postal service. They could have a bus circulating Dublin and drop off at the warehouse. I think it would be very efficient why not?

Biggest problem with mass homeless people being grouped together is toilet facilities. Yes throw them all in a barn and throw food at them, and let them crap and piss all over each other and wallow in their own feces.
I think they'd rather roam free and be on the streets.

kneemos

Seems like a step down from a shelter which are already available.

Mrs OBumble

They could get drug dealers to tender for the rights to operate there - shure the place would pay for itself!






OP in case you don't know, the government already funds numerous charities to provide beds, services etc for the homeless.

farmerwifelet

A roof sounds great but they need toilets, showers, a decent kitchen and privacy. They have put homeless people in a old factory in Dublin 12 but they have them locked in it is like a prison without facilities. They rushed it through using emergency legislation from 2000 against the wishes of local residents. (the site is completely unsuitable) Gets them off the street so the government looks like it is doing something but it is just so the guy who owns the factory can claim it is residential since he has now applied to build apartments on the site. so where are the homeless going to be shoved when he gets the go ahead? The era of brown envelopes and helping your "friends" hasn't gone away.

littelady

To be honest I don't know much about homelessness just a few bits I hear on the radio I'm not from Dublin so I am isolated from seeing the reality. I'm sure the warehouse could have ample showers and bathrooms

biko

See what you can do to help homeless locally in your hometown.
There are usually charities in every town.

Owryan

littelady wrote: »

To be honest I don't know much about homelessness just a few bits I hear on the radio I'm not from Dublin so I am isolated from seeing the reality. I'm sure the warehouse could have ample showers and bathrooms

I ve worked in warehouses, they cold and miserable. Dont recall them having showers either.

You say you dont know much about homelessness, it shows.

Gatling

This is exactly what there doing with homeless hubs

littelady

Owryan: I don't know much on the homeless but I do know a bit on warehouses you can have industrial heaters installed that is not at a danger to people and you can install as many bathroom facilities as needed. Have councillors on hand and a place you can recieved post. A safe secure place to sleep at night that enables the homeless person to find there own jobs .

BillyBobBS

The problem will only be solved when more social housing is built. Everything else is pissing in the wind.

padd b1975

All these facetious solutions to the homeless problem will drive Coppinger to an early grave.

Just saying like!

littelady

I disagree that the issue will only be solved when more social house will be built....it will be never ending ....people can't rely on getting essentially half price houses. People have to make there way in this world. Country can't afford it.

antoinolachtnai

that is more or less what a homeless shelter is or is supposed to be.

Our current crisis has at its core that there just aren’t enough homes for the number of family units who live here. You can give them as much counseling as you like and find them a job and all the rest, but there still won’t be enough homes.

tigger123

If you put the homeless in warehouses people would be giving out that some homeless are gaming the system in order to get a place in the warehouses that are paid for with my taxes.

tigger123

Where's my forever warehouse?! Eh?! I work hard!

Sleeper12

littelady wrote:

Hi all, To help the homeless could the government open up warehouses, have a soup kitchen in place and have a recruitment specialists in hand and a postal service. They could have a bus circulating Dublin and drop off at the warehouse. I think it would be very efficient why not?

You seem to be talking about the rough sleepers part of our homeless problem. There is no simple answer to rough sleepers. A warehouse wouldn't be suitable. Some take drugs. Some are drunks. Others are totally dry and clean from drugs. Some have mental health problems. I commended you for trying to come up with an answer but there is no one shoe fits all with rough sleepers.

littelady

To clarify my suggestion is for rough sleepers.sorry

Owryan

littelady wrote: »

Owryan: I don't know much on the homeless but I do know a bit on warehouses you can have industrial heaters installed that is not at a danger to people and you can install as many bathroom facilities as needed. Have councillors on hand and a place you can recieved post. A safe secure place to sleep at night that enables the homeless person to find there own jobs .

😱😱, Shure why bother with homes then or that. Must be plenty of empty warehouses that can be ripped apart and rebuilt instead.

ted1

littelady wrote: »

Hi all,
To help the homeless could the government open up warehouses, have a soup kitchen in place and have a recruitment specialists in hand and a postal service. They could have a bus circulating Dublin and drop off at the warehouse. I think it would be very efficient why not?

Warehouses are freezing. Their is enough hostel spaces for all rough sleepers but for various reasons some prefer to stay outside

Oranage2

Why not send them all to a big farm down the country where they can run in the fields all day, chase sheep and play with the other homeless people.

TheQuietFella

littelady wrote: »

To be honest I don't know much about homelessness just a few bits I hear on the radio I'm not from Dublin so I am isolated from seeing the reality. I'm sure the warehouse could have ample showers and bathrooms

Open up your home and take in a few!

iomusicdublin

The french closed down the camps they had in Calais and the refugees just ended up living in the woods circling the town with virtually nothing. The red cross and other aid agencies gave them water.

The government refused to provide food toilets or water, and then started doing daily police raids where they would seize tents, sleeping bags etc. They want them gone. Everyone has the right to live everywhere.

littelady

littelady wrote: »

Hi all,
To help the homeless could the government open up warehouses, have a soup kitchen in place and have a recruitment specialists in hand and a postal service. They could have a bus circulating Dublin and drop off at the warehouse. I think it would be very efficient why not?

There are beds available to anyone who wants one. Usually these beds come with conditions that may not be acceptable to those in need, hence their choice to sleep rough.

Owryan

iomusicdublin wrote: »

. Everyone has the right to live everywhere.

No they don't

_Brian

Its not just social housing thats needed..
More housing across the board is needed, if more housing is there for people to buy then they will leave rented stock which will be available to lower income families..

We're seeing the knock on of a completly stagnated market where no houses were built for 5-8 years, during that time it didnt matter as people were exiting the country.. Now people are returning to work and the lag in house supply at all levels is showing.. Employed people are renting accomadation that previously would have been unthinkable for them in the past and left for low income or SW supported families.. If there were houses to buy these low end properties would be again available to low income families..

The HOMELESS numbers are being bloated by those choosing to be registered as homeless to bump themselves up the lists, this isnt everyone, but quite a few.. Its the new "get knocked up - have a sprog - get a house" idea.

Most people throwing out ideas are like myself, clueless as to the social effects and problems of creating spaces for these people to have homes.. I pay anough taxes that someone in government should be doing something proper - but I see nothing but talk...

corner of hells

Gatling wrote: »

This is exactly what there doing with homeless hubs

Not quite , I've been in hub and they are a bit beyond warehouses.

hairyslug

You can put them on pallets and stack them 6 high, make little pods where each bay is for some privacy.

It would also put some forklift drivers back in the workforce.

TheQuietFella

Homelessness is a way of life for the majority of people in my view.
I see people sleeping rough daily & to be honest, I have very little sympathy
if any to be honest for those I pass because it's all a farce! Drug addicts,
alcoholics, Roma, scammers all with a hand out!

When I pass the GPO and see the volume of people queuing for a food handout,
I suspect that there are more there then there should be but isn't that always the case!
Shouldn't be allowed outside of the GPO regardless!

littelady

I only class homelessness as people sleeping on the street.....a single mother still living in her family house is imo is not homeless.

greencap

get them some barcodes too and a box.

on a pallet, up into the racks on the reach truck.

then the order comes in on the computer from Dublin city council;

we need 1 angry pisser for Bolton street, and 2 wall leaners for Dorset st.


out with the scanner. beep, check the order number, into the truck.

wakka12

littelady wrote: »

To build houses for all is so expensive can the country really afford to build thousands of homes and to be honest I feel it would be never ending. I'm talking about getting people off the streets now and let them have some dignity and have a base to help themselves get jobs at the lowest cost to the state.

Warehouses would do nothing. Did you know only 150 or so sleep rough every night in dublin, usually by their own choice as they don't want to stay in the homeless hostels as they're often dangerous and poorly run.Whch is fair enough but still, warehouses won't do anything for homeless people
The best thing to be done is try to make homeless hostels safer. And keep providing food stalls for them, which is already done. There will always be people sleeping rough, it will never ever stop

corner of hells

wakka12 wrote: »

littelady wrote: »

To build houses for all is so expensive can the country really afford to build thousands of homes and to be honest I feel it would be never ending. I'm talking about getting people off the streets now and let them have some dignity and have a base to help themselves get jobs at the lowest cost to the state.

Warehouses would do nothing. Did you know only 150 or so sleep rough every night in dublin, usually by their own choice as they don't want to stay in the homeless hostels as they're often dangerous and poorly run.Whch is fair enough but still, warehouses won't do anything for homeless people
The best thing to be done is try to make homeless hostels safer. And keep providing food stalls for them, which is already done. There will always be people sleeping rough, it will never ever stop

I work in homeless hostels , have done for a couple of years as well as drop in centres and they are not dangerous or poorly run.
I've worked all sorts of shifts both night and day , early mornings and late nights .

littelady

Greencap; what's your solution .....let me guess build more social houses.....homeless people need a safe place to sleep and a place to help them get themselves back on their own two feet.

jam_mac_jam

A lot of the issue with rough sleepers goes much deeper then shelter. Even if you give somebody with huge problems such as drug addiction or mental health issues a house are they really going to be able to function. A huge contribution to homelessness in Ireland is due to addiction issues or family breakdown. Its not as simple as giving them a house. There are beds, there is economic help there but if somebody does not have the support on addiction or being able to function living a normal life then a house is not going to be a solution.

Its not really as straight forward as its being painted. Its not as simple as just poverty that causes this.

This is not in all cases obviously, people do fall on hard times but in general in Ireland there are other issues. Investment in addiction services would probably go further then more hostels.

greencap

littelady wrote: »

Greencap; what's your solution .....let me guess build more social houses.....homeless people need a safe place to sleep and a place to help them get themselves back on their own two feet.

it was a joke.

i was eating potato waffles and listening to youtube.

ill study the reports and come up with a solution to homelessness tomorrow uberkommandant.

SuperSean11

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

A lot of the issue with rough sleepers goes much deeper then shelter. Even if you give somebody with huge problems such as drug addiction or mental health issues a house are they really going to be able to function. A huge contribution to homelessness in Ireland is due to addiction issues or family breakdown. Its not as simple as giving them a house. There are beds, there is economic help there but if somebody does not have the support on addiction or being able to function living a normal life then a house is not going to be a solution.

Its not really as straight forward as its being painted. Its not as simple as just poverty that causes this.

This is not in all cases obviously, people do fall on hard times but in general in Ireland there are other issues. Investment in addiction services would probably go further then more hostels.

Ye got figures or are you just assuming the majority of homeless are addicts?

NinetyTwoTeam

Just cuz it has house in the name doesn't mean it can function as a house.

NinetyTwoTeam

Deleted User wrote: »

There are beds available to anyone who wants one. Usually these beds come with conditions that may not be acceptable to those in need, hence their choice to sleep rough.

Think veiled 'sure they're all druggies and alcos'

littelady

Sorry greencap; i didn't realise you were joking thought u were a div !!! Sorry.

littelady

What is div even short for !!!

jam_mac_jam

SuperSean11 wrote: »

Ye got figures or are you just assuming the majority of homeless are addicts?

Yeah crazy assumption that it contributes to homeless problem. And i didnt say that the majority are addicts. I just think its not as straightforward as made out

AllForIt

Homelessness is a result of a capitalist system that isn't quite perfect. It's not that bad considering that most ppl aren't homeless.

The capitalist system needs to be fine-tuned such that ppl on the bottom don't fall off the system altogether.

If we expect ppl to work in lower working class jobs for the sake of keeping a business alive we as a society need to ensure that rent is affordable - for all.

It's not enough to have a minimum wage policy unless that minimum wage covers the cost of rent that fluctuates over time.

Figuring out where to find roofs for ppl like warehouses is a plaster solution to a very serious problem. Housing ppl in warehouses will only bring with it a host of new problems.

IMO there is a complete lack of opportunities for ppl from less privileged backgrounds. The emphasis is all on higher education which is not a bad think in itself but courses are often too long, too expensive and are largely academic. There is no such thing as apprenticeships anymore. Employers are not willing to take on ppl unless they can show that they already hold some kind of diploma or degree, even for jobs where one is required to do manual work such as in a restaurant kitchen and even then the pay is crap.

I believe unless one has some kind of serious physical impairment everyone is good at something and thus capable of working.

It is up to our government to figure out how to solve these problems. That's what we vote them in for and what we expect them to do. I'm not sure any government we have had over the last 20 years or more are focusing their attention on these kinds of issues.

antoinolachtnai

You are missing the point. Even if every single person who is currently homeless suddenly became a well-functioning, contributing, gainfully employed member of society, we would still have a serious problem. (In fact, a very large proportion of the people who are homeless are well-functioning and contributing.)

The fundamental cause of the crisis is that there are more families than there are homes.

That is the fundamental issue that needs to be addressed.