Influencers over-editing photos in Social Media/Cyber-bullying accusations

I did actually notice that the word “anxiety” popped up in a good few of the instagram accounts that I nosed through and not necessarily in posts that were recently made.

I’m actually getting bored of it all already

SozBbz

mrsdewinter wrote: »

SozBbz wrote: »

I did read it at the time actually, no need to speak for me.
I agree that its a lazy article, thats the point I'm making all along. IMO they should have looked deeper or not published at all. I think you'd find they consider themselves a serious publication, but what they did was temporarily give a person a platform to present themselves as a purely innocent bystander. Whether or not shes BU is one thing, I think it looks likely but I'm not the police so I'm not about to go out and do some amateur detective work. I don't think its beyond the reach of a newspaper to dig a little into a persons background before publishing a story.

What tools do you think a reporter has that would allow them to 'dig into a person's background'? The facts presented to the reporter were: 1) a woman says she's been accused of being BU; 2) she's even approached the guards; 3) the guards confirm that she has spoken to them. From what I've heard about RT, she's excellent at her job and, unlike BU, she was willing to go public about her plight. There's no 'bull****ers hotline' for reporters to contact, you know. All they can work off is the facts in front of them.

Um, i don't know but maybe the internet? I heard her name a good few weeks before that article came out and I'm not even on facebook or involved in any of those groups that much of this seems to circle back to. Her name has been out there for a while, so the point I'm making is that they could have looked a bit closer before writing such a one sided piece.

GingerLily

I tried listening to the other two podcasts from IT Galz, about BU and the original (bull****callerouter), there isn't really any interesting in it, I'd skip!

I'd still recommend everyone to listen to the recent episode (skip to 25 mins in), but I won't be subscribing, I appreciate that they told their experience anyway!

soiseztomabel

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I did actually notice that the word “anxiety” popped up in a good few of the instagram accounts that I nosed through and not necessarily in posts that were recently made.

I’m actually getting bored of it all already

If influencers/bloggers/whomever get anxiety over people trolling, nit picking, people having drastically different opinions maybe opening their lives up to potentially crazy people who are online isn't necessarily the best thing for them to do....

Although this level of bullying is not alright but this whole situation will hopefully serve as a warning to naive people who aim to enter this "profession" about how this area is not all notoriety, granola, podcasts and guest spots on tv and sheds light on how it has a more sinister side.

Muahahaha

SozBbz wrote: »

She always frames asking for money as "support" so she can continue to work as a writer, when in fact is looks far more like support to fund frivolous spending.

Her Patreon account (which has 163 patrons) says "When I reach 500 patrons, I'll be able to pay my podcast producer a semi-decent fee for the work he puts into How to be Sound"

Given she is burning through 500 quid a week eating out and treating herself you would think that she might pay her podcast producer not just a "semi-decent fee" but a decent one. Her podcast is ironically called How to be Sound, I dont think it is very sound expecting people to work for free while you go out and live the life of reilly. She seems to be playing this producer guy like a mug, even putting a condition on her getting 500 patrons before he gets paid a "semi decent fee". Good lord, the sense of entitlement is strong with this one.

soiseztomabel

Muahahaha wrote: »

Her Patreon account (which has 163 patrons) says "When I reach 500 patrons, I'll be able to pay my podcast producer a semi-decent fee for the work he puts into How to be Sound"

Given she is burning through 500 quid a week eating out and treating herself you would think that she might pay her podcast producer not just a "semi-decent fee" but a decent one. Her podcast is ironically called How to be Sound, I dont think it is very sound expecting people to work for free while you go out and live the life of reilly. She seems to be playing this producer guy like a mug, even putting a condition on her getting 500 patrons before he gets paid a "semi decent fee". Good lord, the sense of entitlement is strong with this one.

Not fully true.... She bought him an Eddie Rockets (with milkshake) a few times according to some of her diaries.

"How to be sound"..

Jesus..

soiseztomabel

soiseztomabel wrote: »

Not fully true.... She bought him and Eddie Rockets (with milkshake) a few times according to some of her diaries.

Yeah.... me, Rosemary and Eddie are best buds and you patreons always pay!

ibarelycare

RhubarbCrumble wrote: »

Only heard of this one recently. Leah Roberts. Missing person. Very unusual case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Leah_Roberts

What's that got to do with this thread?

RhubarbCrumble

ibarelycare wrote: »

What's that got to do with this thread?

Oops! So sorry. Meant to post in the unsolved mysteries thread. Can a mod delete please? Apologies.

ratmouse

ginandtonicsky wrote: »

This story gets weirder and weirder. It's honestly like some sort of cheap made-for-TV movie designed to document the era of social media and bloggers and how mad of a world it all is.

Those lads from that cafe are a pack of clowns with the maturity and emotional intelligence of a four year old. Every "blogger" embroiled in this should be examining their own business ethics and moral backbone instead of getting involved in the dramatics of "who is she??" and making themselves look like a pack of self-obsessed teenagers who honestly should go for a walk outside in the fresh air and get over themselves. The game's up like, you got called out, now off you go and try to build a more reputable business that doesn't rely on photoshop, lying and the gullibility of young women to survive.

And that former boards poster...really disappointed to see that she's involved in all of this. <snip>

This post says it all. I would thank it 100 times if I could.

GingerLily

Kelsey_frankie on Insta has her own BU story!

margaretdublin

Has anyone followed davidthomaswhite

I like that he is very concise and articulate on blogging in Ireland. It baffles me that if Ramona Treacy was behind all this that she would even recommend us to follow him.

Anyhow going forward it seems there is going to a big clean up in the blogging world, this was posted a while ago but worth reading:

The Irish Times - background-checks-for-online-influencers-under-core-policy ( I can't post link sorry)

I didn't know the ASAI were self regulatory, that explains their lack of interest in reprimanding bloggers who don't adhere to the rules.

Suckit

margaretdublin wrote: »

Anyhow going forward it seems there is going to a big clean up in the blogging world, this was posted a while ago but worth reading:

The Irish Times - background-checks-for-online-influencers-under-core-policy ( I can't post link sorry)

I didn't know the ASAI were self regulatory, that explains their lack of interest in reprimanding bloggers who don't adhere to the rules.

https://www.adworld.ie/2018/06/15/core-introduces-new-guidelines-procedures-dealing-influencers-ambassadors/

There have been a few stories like that. I read one a few months back that said they were going to bring in all sorts of rules and a new way to monitor. I think things like that are best believed when they are seen. Nothing seems to have happened at all since I read the article and it was written as though it was happening in a few days or a week.

Also Core can't implement too many rules, as it would effect them also.

margaretdublin

It's interesting to look at the effect that BU had on the blogging industry and I would imagine that these organizations are only too glad of the demise of the page. Now that the page is gone I don't think they will be in any hurry to change things.

Suckit wrote: »

https://www.adworld.ie/2018/06/15/core-introduces-new-guidelines-procedures-dealing-influencers-ambassadors/

There have been a few stories like that. I read one a few months back that said they were going to bring in all sorts of rules and a new way to monitor. I think things like that are best believed when they are seen. Nothing seems to have happened at all since I read the article and it was written as though it was happening in a few days or a week.

Also Core can't implement too many rules, as it would effect them also.

Shergar6

What are peoples thoughts on why Ramona allowed a photo of her to be posted in the paper? She could have done the interview without the photo. Now everyone knows what she looks like. Attention seeking? Trying to make her "I'm not BU" act seem legit?

soiseztomabel

Shergar6 wrote: »

What are peoples thoughts on why Ramona allowed a photo of her to be posted in the paper? She could have done the interview without the photo. Now everyone knows what she looks like. Attention seeking? Trying to make her "I'm not BU" act seem legit?

"Blogger / Influencer" and "attention seeking" in the same sentence..... I've seen it all now.

soiseztomabel

soiseztomabel wrote: »

"Blogger / Influencer" and "attention seeking" in the same sentence..... I've seen it all now.

This is probably the funniest post I've ever seen on boards..

ibarelycare

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is probably the funniest post I've ever seen on boards..

Is this your first day?

soiseztomabel

ibarelycare wrote: »

Is this your first day?

Ouch...... I feel victimized, insta story incoming !!!!

Shergar6

soiseztomabel wrote: »

"Blogger / Influencer" and "attention seeking" in the same sentence..... I've seen it all now.

But "Ramona" wasn't a blogger or influencer.

margaretdublin

She's saying I don't give a F**K about your death threats, I know who wrote them.:)

Shergar6 wrote: »

What are peoples thoughts on why Ramona allowed a photo of her to be posted in the paper? She could have done the interview without the photo. Now everyone knows what she looks like. Attention seeking? Trying to make her "I'm not BU" act seem legit?

soiseztomabel

Shergar6 wrote: »

But "Ramona" wasn't a blogger or influencer.

What was BU then ?

Trigger Happy

An old fella said to me ‘you have a face for radio’.
Must have been BU in disguise.

erica74

GingerLily wrote: »

Kelsey_frankie on Insta has her own BU story!

And another fame hungry herd are born!

Shergar6

soiseztomabel wrote: »

What was BU then ?

Jesus wept!!, You don't get it. Ramona was trying to convince people she wasn't BU. She was just a country beautician who knew nothing. Ramona Tracy was never a blogger or an influencer. She didn't court attention for her true identity. It was all anonymous. So why put that picture out there.

GingerLily

Shergar6 wrote: »

Jesus wept!!, You don't get it. Ramona was trying to convince people she wasn't BU. She was just a country beautician who knew nothing. Ramona Tracy was never a blogger or an influencer. She didn't court attention for her true identity. It was all anonymous. So why put that picture out there.

She courted attention, she courted drama, she just wanted it under an alter ego

Shergar6

GingerLily wrote: »

She courted attention, she courted drama, she just wanted it under an alter ego

Exactly. So allowing that photo out there knowing that a lot of people had already guessed she was BU is just weird. Dumbest move ever. Without a photo it would just be a name. I know there is talk of people have old Facebook photos of her but I haven't seen any yet.

Flippyfloppy

Shergar6 wrote: »

Exactly. So allowing that photo out there knowing that a lot of people had already guessed she was BU is just weird. Dumbest move ever. Without a photo it would just be a name. I know there is talk of people have old Facebook photos of her but I haven't seen any yet.

She probably had to go along with the act!

AttentionBebe

Shergar6 wrote: »

What are peoples thoughts on why Ramona allowed a photo of her to be posted in the paper? She could have done the interview without the photo. Now everyone knows what she looks like. Attention seeking? Trying to make her "I'm not BU" act seem legit?

"I'm afraid for my life"

*Gives interview complete with photo to the Sunday Times*

Seems legit.

jimmynokia

Just seen this on twitter if you follow the replies.

https://twitter.com/DearbhlaHere/status/1024688463910760449?s=19

GingerLily

jimmynokia wrote: »

Just seen this on twitter if you follow the replies.
https://twitter.com/DearbhlaHere/status/1024688463910760449?s=19

What's new that was on that? Everyone knows RT is Santa Paws

ginandtonicsky

The journo/photog probably took her by surprise and said “sure no harm, we’ll just get a quick one to reinforce your account of being an innocent beautician who has been been falsely roped into the line of fire” or whatever. I recall her photos around here being a lot more curated and...flattering, I guess. So have to assume she went for the “innocent ordinary beautician from the country” angle.

margaretdublin

If you really were afraid for your life would you not try to hide your identity?

AttentionBebe wrote: »

"I'm afraid for my life"

*Gives interview complete with photo to the Sunday Times*

Seems legit.

ibarelycare

margaretdublin wrote: »

If you really were afraid for your life would you not try to hide your identity?

The people she was afraid knew her identity.

margaretdublin

Do you mean by the time she did the interview her identity was out there? And do you think she really was afraid? Of CC who she wrote about?

ibarelycare wrote: »

The people she was afraid knew her identity.

GingerLily

margaretdublin wrote: »

Do you mean by the time she did the interview her identity was out there? And do you think she really was afraid? Of CC who she wrote about?

I reckon it was the white moose cafe lads and one of the girls from IT Galz. It sounds like they suspected it was her and were trying to smoke her out, fair enough, she'd trolled them in the past.

She might have been afraid but not of those guys, I think she was trying to control the situation, I think in hindsight it was the wrong move, instead of sympathy she just put a face to the person who had trolled A LOT of people over the years. Almost everyone on insta now has their own Ramona story.

I don't know if it even matters if she is BU anymore, the other stuff is as big now.

Moyglish

That's what I've been wondering about. Did RT basically out herself?

Before she went public and gave her story to a national newspaper and voluntarily put her face and name out there, I would assume that up until that point it was only a handful of people who knew, or at the very least, suspected, it was her.

But by voluntarily putting herself out there, she opened up a can of worms and herself to enormous scrutiny as now, even people who were only vaguely interested, had a face and name to latch onto. And then of course the rumour Mill went into overdrive and people started putting 2 and 2 together and before she knew it, she was Public Enemy No. 1

Did she bring about her demise and downfall all by herself? I reckon if she hadn't done the interview, she'd still be living a relatively normal life now with only a select few gossiping about her behind closed doors and in DMs and PMs, but now the genie is out of the bottle and it's all out in the open and everyone knows.

Could she really have been that shortsighted and naive to put herself up for public scrutiny like that? I presume that it was she who approached The Irish Times and not vice versa?

Or did she really think that by going public she was going to pull the wool over everyone's eyes playing the victim card?

I just find it staggering how this all blew up, seemingly by her own makings..

RockDesk

Moyglish wrote: »

Or did she really think that by going public she was going to pull the wool over everyone's eyes playing the victim card?

It looks to me like it was this. She (BU) posted a screenshot for whatever reason in her stories seemingly giving away her identity and quickly deleted but it was seen, and Instagram accounts started popping up saying they knew who she was. Then one account posted a photo of Ramona's eyes and it blew up. After that Ramona was on damage control and stupidly went to the papers.

I would love to know what is going through her head right now. She must be raging that she's been caught out. Now any troll account will be rightly or wrongly attributed to her. Certainly for the next few months anyway.

ibarelycare

margaretdublin wrote: »

Do you mean by the time she did the interview her identity was out there? And do you think she really was afraid? Of CC who she wrote about?

She had already received death threats at that stage so yes, her identity was out there and had been for a few months. By the time the article has published her name was doing the rounds on twitter and in FB groups.

ibarelycare

GingerLily wrote: »

I reckon it was the white moose cafe lads and one of the girls from IT Galz. It sounds like they suspected it was her and were trying to smoke her out, fair enough, she'd trolled them in the past.

She might have been afraid but not of those guys, I think she was trying to control the situation, I think in hindsight it was the wrong move, instead of sympathy she just put a face to the person who had trolled A LOT of people over the years. Almost everyone on insta now has their own Ramona story.

I don't know if it even matters if she is BU anymore, the other stuff is as big now.

A lot of people THINK they have their own Ramona story. Most of these “influencers” are so narcissistic that the thought of there being more than one person out there who doesn’t like them and would troll them is just beyond the realm of possibility. I don’t agree with “trolling” but there’s a lot more than one person in Ireland who troll/abuse people online.

margaretdublin

I think she thought she had enough followers who would believe her. She alluded to that in one of her last insta stores.

I find the Sunday Times involvement interesting. At the start they wrote a piece on the nursgate in Australia. By the time the Caris Closet came about they must have had their suspicions. They asked followers to contact a journalist in the ST with their story. The ST went on to publish their own Caris Closet story.

The piece that was written about the nurse saga has been removed maybe it was only in the print edition? It was written by John Burns a very well respected editor, the longest member of the ST.

If Ramona Treacy is truly BU she has pulled off a massive stunt in d deceiving the Sunday Times.

Moyglish wrote: »

Could she really have been that shortsighted and naive to put herself up for public scrutiny like that? I presume that it was she who approached The Irish Times and not vice versa?

Caranica

In the middle of all this bloggers and "influencers" continue to do things that BU would have called them out on. I've definitely seen Insta stories where people have been driving and sponsored posts not tagged. Tbh I don't care who BU was, they provided a service to the public.

margaretdublin

There are a huge amount of people unaware of the trolling. Only yesterday I was speaking to someone who said " did you see that article on that poor girl getting death threats?" It's only online that she is outed. The Sunday Times need to correct this and do a piece on trolling and cat fishing.

Shergar6 wrote: »

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Shergar6

margaretdublin wrote: »

I think she thought she had enough followers who would believe her. She alluded to that in one of her last insta stores.

I find the Sunday Times involvement interesting. At the start they wrote a piece on the nursgate in Australia. By the time the Caris Closet came about they must have had their suspicions. They asked followers to contact a journalist in the ST with their story. The ST went on to publish their own Caris Closet story.

The piece that was written about the nurse saga has been removed maybe it was only in the print edition? It was written by John Burns a very well respected editor, the longest member of the ST.

If Ramona Treacy is truly BU she has pulled off a massive stunt in d deceiving the Sunday Times.

But both of those cases were real. Cari's is selling overpriced tat and nurses are being lied to about their opportunities. Aren't they?

I feel like we are giving too much credit to Ramona for deceiving that John Mooney dude, i think that's his name. It's a reflection of how crap an investigative journalist he is that he was still claiming she wasn't BU days after everyone saw the screen shots on Jason's story. I think he has stopped answering people asking for his take on the situation now and I tried to find the tweet where he said it definitely is not RT but I couldn't find it??

Moyglish

Shergar6 wrote: »

I'd love to know if she is getting any bookings since... Who'd want to be on your own with such a nasty, dangerous and manipulative person. A couple of people have said she is good at her job, but there is a whole lot of badness brewing just under the shiny surface. The way Kelci described her as being totally cold and remorseless as she begged her to take the post down.

Who's Kelci and what's the story behind that?

I too was wondering about her business and if this would be the death knell for it, or would bookings increase as a result of morbid curiosity, would people like to be able to say that they had their brows done by the infamous BU?

On checking her Business's FB I was surprised to see all glowing 5 star reviews, I almost expected to see lots of negative 1 star reviews from those jumping on the band wagon as part of a witch hunt to tear her down.

Shergar6

margaretdublin wrote: »

There are a huge amount of people unaware of the trolling. Only yesterday I was speaking to someone who said " did you see that article on that poor girl getting death threats?" It's only online that she is outed. The Sunday Times need to correct this and do a piece on trolling and cat fishing.

Yeah true, but in Tullamore where her business is based it must be everywhere. I'm from a smaller town that Tullamore and I can't imagine something like this being contained to online only. People love to talk.

Maybe she has such a sweet innocent real life persona that some won't believe it. But I hope she feels the repurcusions in some way. She is way too arrogant and cock sure of herself.

GingerLily

Moyglish wrote: »

Who's Kelci and what's the story behind that?

I too was wondering about her business and if this would be the death knell for it, or would bookings increase as a result of morbid curiosity, would people like to be able to say that they had their brows done by the infamous BU?

On checking her Business's FB I was surprised to see all glowing 5 star reviews, I almost expected to see lots of negative 1 star reviews from those jumping on the band wagon as part of a witch hunt to tear her down.

RT and her trolls leave fake bad reviews, regular folk aren't bothered.

Shergar6

Moyglish wrote: »

Who's Kelci and what's the story behind that?

I too was wondering about her business and if this would be the death knell for it, or would bookings increase as a result of morbid curiosity, would people like to be able to say that they had their brows done by the infamous BU?

On checking her Business's FB I was surprised to see all glowing 5 star reviews, I almost expected to see lots of negative 1 star reviews from those jumping on the band wagon as part of a witch hunt to tear her down.

Her name is Kelcey Frankie on Instagram. She is a waitress who is in to beauty and BU went to town on her in a post accusing her of lying about her tan or some sh*t lol??!! . Its in her highlights.

She was DMing with BU to get her to take it down bc it wasn't true and she said she got a really weird vibe off of her. Like the online manifestation of dead behind the eyes.

She was saying how scary it is to be her target and to have what seems like everyone bitching about you. But she was lucky in that most people defended her and said. BU was wrong in this instance, which got her truly vexed and she started lying about Kelcey giving her permission to keep the post up.. <snip>

soiseztomabel

Moyglish wrote: »

Who's Kelci and what's the story behind that?

I too was wondering about her business and if this would be the death knell for it, or would bookings increase as a result of morbid curiosity, would people like to be able to say that they had their brows done by the infamous BU?

On checking her Business's FB I was surprised to see all glowing 5 star reviews, I almost expected to see lots of negative 1 star reviews from those jumping on the band wagon as part of a witch hunt to tear her down.

I s'pose if they cant claim to be trolled by her that would probably be the next best thing to talk about in their Insta stories.