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Reimbursing work for training expenses

  • 08-01-2018 8:37pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 5


    Work are sending me to Paris for mandatory induction training. They require me to sign an agreement to reimburse them if I leave the company within 12 months of taking the training.

    Is this legal? Seems dodge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Seems a little odd. If it’s mandatory induction training to do the job, then I’d expect them to cover it.

    If it was more elective training, and they were covering the costs, then this kind of arrangement would be more typical.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    From their point of view, why spend money on training you only for you to leave and bring that training/knowledge somewhere else. If you don't want to agree to it, just tell them you won't and don't want the training.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 pyaww!


    Not really interested in the companies point of view to be honest :)


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    pyaww! wrote: »
    Not really interested in the companies point of view to be honest :)

    Is it company specific training or will you get a cert/qualification from it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 pyaww!


    No cert. Soft skills, teamwork sh!te.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    pyaww! wrote: »
    No cert. Soft skills, teamwork sh!te.

    hmm.

    It's not illegal but unusual I know plenty of people in IT who are required to do mandatory trading and have to pay back if they leave but it's usually a cert

    as it's mandatory you either do it or look for a new job

    out of curiosity is it mandatory for everyone or something you've to do as a result of a disciplinary/performance related issue?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    pyaww! wrote: »
    No cert. Soft skills, teamwork sh!te.

    I see a quick parting of the ways.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 pyaww!


    :'D I should say professional skills rather than soft skills. Mandatory for all. I'm an exemplary employee


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,600 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    pyaww! wrote: »
    Work are sending me to Paris for mandatory induction training. They require me to sign an agreement to reimburse them if I leave the company within 12 months of taking the training.

    Is this legal? Seems dodge.

    Common enough clause. Perfectly legal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,808 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Paris in the springtime.
    What more could you ask for!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,627 ✭✭✭tedpan


    They do that in several corporations. Sending you to Paris costs money, they don't expect you to leave within that period of time. They do the same in my place if you want to do a college course, you cannot leave before you've worked 24 months following course completion or you incur the fees.

    I'm guessing if they fire you within the 12 months you won't have to pay?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,213 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    What more could you ask for!
    Not to be put into indentured servitude by your employer?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    pyaww! wrote: »
    :'D I should say professional skills rather than soft skills. Mandatory for all. I'm an exemplary employee
    You expect company to train you , then you leave shortly after. Only fair that they get some value for money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Batgurl


    I get why they are doing it but that doesn’t mean I’d agree with it. Screams of stingy but maybe it’s just a deterrent to stop people getting a free trip to Paris before leaving.

    Have they stated how much it is costing? Who gets the benefit from the training; you or them? And most importantly, are you planning on leaving within the timeframe laid out?

    My 2 cents? Had a similar kind of thing from my old company. Conveniently “never got round to signing” the form. As I suspected, they never chased me for reimbursement when I left and even if they had, they had nothing in writing anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭Rackstar


    pyaww! wrote: »
    Not really interested in the companies point of view to be honest :)
    pyaww! wrote: »
    No cert. Soft skills, teamwork sh!te.

    Possibly they've sensed that you couldn't care less about the job, and are trying to cover themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Tails142


    That's total bs, Pay for a trip to Paris... Tell them you want someone to record the training on their phone and you'll watch it at your desk when they get back and to shove their free maybe not free trip to Paris up their a$$... Simples


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