Kia Niro EV

Old diesel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119794918#Comment_119794918

Those sound like pre increase PHEV prices hes quoting in error....

Tweaky

I see that the K3 specs and pricing are up on the Kia website. Looks like a very good option

€3k less than the K4. Items removed being the HUD the leather seats and the powered tailgate.

really surprised it keeps the heat pump and the V2L

icom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119806606#Comment_119806606

Just ordered a K3 today for January delivery. I can live without the HUD, leather seats (K3 has half leather) and power tailgate for 3,225 less money.

Dealer included metallic paint at no extra cost to sweeten the deal 😃

championc

A January delivery will already be built and is possibly loading onto the ship now, or maybe even en-route

mailforkev

Interesting. My old man was told by his dealer this week that they were getting no K3s in ‘til mid 2023.

icom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842461#Comment_119842461

Very interesting indeed, he was sure mine would be here in January.

I'll just keep driving my old eNiro until the new one arrives, love the car either way.

First time test driving the new model today, fantastic car, can't wait to get my hands on the new one when it eventually arrives.

championc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842461#Comment_119842461

Maybe preferential treatment for those trading one back into the pool ???

OO7FITZY

Someone posted a comment recently that range on new niro is less than older model which I imagine should not be the case as the battery is same size and car more or less same size - anyone else have experience of this?

also what's the best OTR price for a new niro people are getting quoted?

chewed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119844092#Comment_119844092

I agree with this. I've had the older eNiro which I used to get around 14.2kwh per 100km and was easily getting an average of 420km (winter) to 470km (Summer) on a full charge.

I've had the new Niro EV 4 for over 2 months now and I'm barely getting 400km on a full charge, even with this mild weather. Also, I'm averaging around 14.9kwh per 100km, even though myself and wife are driving similar routes/speeds to the older model.

xboxdad

Is it possible that there's isn't a single e-Niro for sale on carzone.ie ?

I was trying to check what's our car worth currently (2020 e-Niro MY20, 40k kms), but selecting KIA / e-Niro from the dropdowns just brings up a few pages of 2023 Niro EV ads.

stimpson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119844421#Comment_119844421

You have to be a bit more creative with your search. Try this: https://www.carzone.ie/search?make=Kia&model=e-Niro&model=Niro&minPrice=500&maxPrice=45000&fuelType=Electric

chewed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119844421#Comment_119844421

Try this link. It's an issue with Carzone in that they have both e-Niro and Niro as selections. So you have to choose "Niro" and then pick Electric as fuel type

https://www.carzone.ie/search?make=Kia&model=Niro&fuelType=Electric

Tweaky

Interesting video from Bob Flavin with the new Niro EV

https://youtu.be/qThwSJt0VTM

xboxdad

Thanks guys. 201 reg with 43k kms on the clock for 38k EUR? Wow! Prices are crazy. The GFMV on our PCP is 15k EUR and it's up in a few months. I think we'll keep it as there's still nothing that puts it to shame properly.

OO7FITZY

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119844185#Comment_119844185

have to say that's a worry and like you I get the same range on my e-niro for summer / winter and the range is fairly accurate

So for your comparison and correct me if wrong as only 15 km differnece?

new niro battery is 64.8kWh / 14.9 kWh per 100km = range of 435 kms

e niro / 64kWh / 14.2kWh per 100km = 450km

Has this come up in any other reviews?

If range is less in new model then I am reluctant to switch TBH

xboxdad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119846179#Comment_119846179

The new model only has 60% of the torque of the old model.

While all reviews try to make you think it's all about not having the wheels slip when accelerating from standstill, it's not a fair assessment in my view.

It's very much about how fast you can overtake cars on the motorway when you're already at speed. It's very quick with 400nm torque, wouldn't pay the same amount of money for a car that can't do that.

OO7FITZY

Agree, one of the major benefits of the e-niro is having the confidence to overtake knowing it will pull away no fuss

I never have a problem with wheel spin as I know you cannot floor it from stationary but need to get moving first

Is it fair to say the ask is to pay more for a car with less range and less torque?

Some of the new features like HUD and powered tailgate I can do without while range is the mail selling point of and EV for me

icom

Third Service today @50k km. 96 euro inc vat

Pollen filter not required. Happy with that.

argolis

A loose tyre bouncing on the M7 the other night smashed the front grille on my eNiro. It might have done damage to the radar unit because it's occasionally and briefly disabling the cruise control and forward collision detection. I'm hoping replacing the grille might fix it but if not, has anyone had to get the radar recalibrated or replaced? My spidey-v senses say it'll be astronomical from the dealership...

championc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850891#Comment_119850891

Interesting. No need for the battery coolant to be replaced ?

And good price - where ?

xboxdad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848341#Comment_119848341

KIA dropped the ball in more than one way in my view.

EV6 prices went from 50k Earth / 55k GT Line to 55k Earth / 65k GT Line since the DoneDeal review from the end of May.

5k & 10k price increase since May.

While at the same time Tesla apparently decreased the price of the best selling EV in the world, the Model Y from I believe 66k to 53k.

I always preferred the KIAs, but I just can't justify these inflated prices.

OO7FITZY

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119852203#Comment_119852203

Agree, hard to see how much is inflationary pressure and how much is price gouging

Jackben75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119852203#Comment_119852203

the tesla model y works out at 61k if you change the colour and the wheels (black). No value at all, plus when i test drove it, i heard noises, like creeks on occasion, bit strange. Personally think the look is starting to date too. EV6 is miles ahead of it for me but i won't pay that silly money either

icom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119852141#Comment_119852141

Letterkenny KIA (iMotors), they never mentioned the battery coolant and I didn't remind them, book stamped 😄

mailforkev

The old man went ahead and put his name on a K4 for Jan.

I reckon he'd have gone EV6 if it was still 50k but he wasn't willing to jump to 55.

championc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119852203#Comment_119852203

Did the Tesla not drop in price due to tax, and now being built in the EU ?

handpref

I may be wrong but I thought this originally, we’d looked at moving on a niro phev for a m3 or y, the y was in the 65k territory- Tesla gave a brutal low ball figure on the niro that killed off any interest, however I think the 65k y option was a long range dual motor car, different to this new lower priced one, standard range & red. The Tesla lads can confirm whether I’m mixed up or not 👍🏻

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119851581#Comment_119851581

That is terrible. I hope you reported it go the Garda.

Could your insurance not cover it?

Doonbegman

2 EV’s-2 “interesting “ colours. I suppose at least we are always able to find them in a car park.

Efitz2019

Hi new Niro EV ordered for January. Did anyone go with a service at pack? Was looking at getting a 3 or 4 year service plan. €720 for 3 services/ €1040 for a 4 year one.

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Or is it just as cheap to service yearly? Much savings to be made?

JohnC.

Seems expensive.

icom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119866066#Comment_119866066

Just had my third service at 50k km, total for all 3 services was €290 over the last 3 years.

I change the pollen filter myself €20 and get a local tyre centre to rotate the wheels, €20 including balancing.

€720 seems a bit steep for a 3 year plan.

I filled the screen wash to the brim before the last service and even got charged €2.50 for another top up !

Efitz2019

Yeah I was thinking it was expensive. I have a 191 Hyundai Ioniq and done 4 services from new costing me just over €300. I think I’ll give it a miss.

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119844680#Comment_119844680

Looks like Bob is trying too hard to be the paddy spec version of TeslaBjorn. He looked wrecked after 500km and had to overnight to finish it out. Drove at 100kph on the motorways and used a 50kW charger even though the car is capable of 77kW DC charging. He even had a Kia charge card that can be used at Ionity. Crazy stuff.

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119867077#Comment_119867077

I find Bob terrible. He always seems unprepared, shows a serious pack of knowledge of the electric vehicle he's using and doesn't seem to use an EV the way the vast majority of EV users actually use their cars (charge at a low percentage and only top up enough to get to their destination/next stop when using HPC).

argolis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119859798#Comment_119859798

Report it so that they would stop traffic to get the tyre off the motorway? Or that they'd find whose vehicle it came off? Never occurred to me in any case, I assume it'd come to rest off the road somewhere long before they got there. I haven't any faith that the gardai would come to help for anything unless it was a serious crime tbh. Every story I read or hear about is that they don't want to help or can't help, at most making a note in Pulse system that comes to nothing.

Got my quote from Kia Liffey Valley, about €750 to replace the front grille and recalibrate the radar. €220 for two hours labour to recalibrate the radar, so €530 to replace the grille 😂

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119867443#Comment_119867443

Unfortunately it’s a civil matter which the Gardai will be delighted to tell you and it’s a case of suck it up. It could have been worse if you a front headlight damaged as well.

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119867336#Comment_119867336

Definitely a bit ignorant on the EV side of things, Derek O Reilly is much better.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119867077#Comment_119867077

Bob is a complete idiot.

Does absolutely stupid things to clickbait into the video. And when’s he’s called out on it, he blocks you and tries to ridicule you.

And absolute thick ignorant lump of a yolk is what he is.

xboxdad

How is the PCP experience nowadays when upgrading to a new car (after 3 years)?

Say we wanted an EV6 instead of the e-Niro and it wasn't on stock.

Will they still let you trade in and then you can wait?

...but what car will you drive in the meantime? Finance will be over and you didn't buy the car either, so you can't drive the e-Niro anymore I guess.

..and you don't have an EV6 yet.

Is there some sort of workable mechanism for this arranged by the dealer or you can only upgrade to a car that's in stock otherwise you'll have to buy the existing one 1st?

snor

Did anyone avail of the free charger/discounted energy deal with Energia when they bought their new Kia? How would you rate it? Thanks

joe1303l

General feedback seems to be that there is better value available on the electricity rates offered via this offer. Hence you end up paying for the wallbox via inflated electricity rates.

budhabob

Test drove the E-Niro today. Very comfortable well finished car. We have a ZS on order and chasing info, but if we have no ballpark timelines this could be a serious contender.

Minifox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119870423#Comment_119870423

Yes, I'd definitely agree with that.

Don't underestimate how much power EVs go through. Some months I use more on the car than I do on the house, so you've really got to focus on unit rates. And probably switch to a day/night tariff too. I paid the €200 Energia cancellation fee after getting my first bill!

For what it's worth, I wish I'd gone with the Zappi rather than the Energia EO charger, so I could make proper use of my solar panels to charge the car. Energia's EO wallbox claims to be 'smart' too, but the three installers I contacted in Ireland so it wasn't. I thought I was saving money but it's cost me more in the long run.

Mad_maxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119867511#Comment_119867511

Yeah but Derek Reilly never gives his opinion on any car he tests , he is good at knowing the key details but their is never a summary or final verdict, it’s always just “ let me know what you think in the comments “

prefer Nobby over any of them , you get the impression he speaks from the heart

joe1303l

Fair point and Nobby does decent reviews. In terms of his opinion, he seems to me to be generally hugely positive. It’s almost like he’s enthusiastic with any new model and seems to say they’re all great. This might be unfair as I haven’t watched all his reviews but I have watched most of his BEV ones. If you’ve had a free car for a week, maybe it’s hard to be critical.

snor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119894220#Comment_119894220

Agree. After a lot of research. Zappi appears the most efficient/easiest to use with solar panels so went with it. Being installed on Tuesday 👍

BuzzFish

Thinking about ordering a NIRO EV in next coupe of weeks. Anyone experience with getting a decent deal? Any extras worth asking to be included? I see KIA charge but they only seem to give ionity deals to EV6 owners.

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119929339#Comment_119929339

You won't get any deals and you won't get any extras included. If you don't pay what the dealer asks there'll be 10 others in after you to take the car for the quoted price.

snor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119929339#Comment_119929339

I got the offer of free charger and 20% off energia electricity rate with Jan 22 delivery. Also got a €500 super valu voucher. This this is through all Kia dealers I think. . Best of luck.