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Kia Niro EV

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    #1022
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    daheff wrote: »
    i keep getting calls from a garage which sounds like its a radio presenter telling me they have one to test drive.... if thats any use

    Which one? I drove past the Kia dealer I talked to before and get are gone bust

    Please and thank you


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    #1023
    Silent Running
    Registered Users Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    The configurator isn't working very well. I can't tell what the color (sic) package: A type means for the interior, and this is selectable over leather. The full spec isn't loaded either. Looks like a work in progress.

    Spec seems to include satnav on a 7" screen? Same as the boggo spec Kona. Why a tiny screen. I know it's only an inch smaller than the UK spec Kona, but 1" can make a huge difference, I'm told. :o:D

    Maybe the full spec will change this.


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    #1024
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Silent Running wrote: »
    The configurator isn't working very well. I can't tell what the color (sic) package: A type means for the interior, and this is selectable over leather. The full spec isn't loaded either. Looks like a work in progress.

    Spec seems to include satnav on a 7" screen? Same as the boggo spec Kona. Why a tiny screen. I know it's only an inch smaller than the UK spec Kona, but 1" can make a huge difference, I'm told. :o:D

    Maybe the full spec will change this.

    It’s what you do with the inch.....

    Anyway i don’t like the trend towards stupid big flat screen in car, they can look vulgar....my preference would be built in Alexa or some other AI than a big screen but that’s a bit off

    Plastic leather, adaptive cruise etc and I am hapoy


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    #1025
    Silent Running
    Registered Users Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    It’s what you do with the inch.....

    Anyway i don’t like the trend towards stupid big flat screen in car, they can look vulgar....my preference would be built in Alexa or some other AI than a big screen but that’s a bit off

    Plastic leather, adaptive cruise etc and I am hapoy

    You wouldn't want a Tesla then? :p

    I don't give a crap how it looks in the car as long as it gives a clear map. Within reason, the bigger the better.


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    #1026
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Silent Running wrote: »
    You wouldn't want a Tesla then? :p

    I don't give a crap how it looks in the car as long as it gives a clear map. Within reason, the bigger the better.


    On the eGolf, once you put in location I will take off the Sat nav, on the screen beside the speedo it will show up with the next direction you need to turn and distance to turn. That's all I need. Normally I wont leave the map on the main tiny little 7" screen :p:p:p


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    #1027
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Silent Running wrote: »
    You wouldn't want a Tesla then? :p

    I don't give a crap how it looks in the car as long as it gives a clear map. Within reason, the bigger the better.


    Dont get me wrong, if you like a big screen fire ahead but I just think it is too clunky. The iPad was released 9 years ago now...then it was cutting edge.



    AI is where it is at now. The only company I have seen use proper AI is Nio and of course not available over here.



    From reports the tesla system is clunky and difficult to use why driving. Not much of an advancement in technology.


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    #1028
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    I actually give up....so I emailed all the dealers in the Dublin area and surrounding last night.....

    So first reply this morning, kudo's for been on the ball but not on response

    HI XXXXX,

    They are due to arrive in next month. Now announcement yet on price or specification.

    Dealer

    :p:p:p:p:p

    I have replied with link to kia.ie


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    #1029
    Old diesel
    Registered Users Posts: 5,809 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    People are actually taking delivery of the cars in the UK.

    And I see the UK guys have had communication issues with Kia and dealers too.

    Wonder therefore if this is an issue going back to the factory in Korea.


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    #1030
    thelikelylad
    Registered Users Posts: 369 ✭✭thelikelylad


    Looks like it has a PTC heater instead of the heat pump? :(

    PTC Heater_ Int Type
    S
    Inner Condenser HVAC
    S

    Can't complain with the spec other than that though really.


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    #1031
    Soarer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Soarer wrote: »
    I assume those prices are after all grants?

    Anyone?


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    #1032
    Silent Running
    Registered Users Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    Soarer wrote: »
    Anyone?

    I think that would be a given.


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    #1033
    Ryath
    Registered Users Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Ryath


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I actually give up....so I emailed all the dealers in the Dublin area and surrounding last night.....

    So first reply this morning, kudo's for been on the ball but not on response

    HI XXXXX,

    They are due to arrive in next month. Now announcement yet on price or specification.

    Dealer

    :p:p:p:p:p

    I have replied with link to kia.ie

    I was in one dealer in Dublin two weeks ago and the salesman knew nothing about the ev Niro and directed me towards the plug in one. Sleators in Mullingar already had one at that stage. Was in Mullingar yesterday so tried to go see it at lunch time but the garage was closed for lunch despite there being no mention of it on their opening hours. Niro was in showroom so could only look in at it. I'll try and get back over next week to look but assuming it's not available to test drive.


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    #1034
    Soarer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Silent Running wrote: »
    I think that would be a given.

    Figured as much.

    But you never know...;)


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    #1035
    eagerv
    Registered Users Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Must say Nero looks better priced compared to Kona.


    Is Smart cruise control the same as Adaptive cruise?


    Wonder will Hyundai bring out the full spec version of the Kona (As hinted previously) at similar price to remain competitive?


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    #1036
    icom
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭icom


    Silent Running wrote: »
    The configurator isn't working very well. I can't tell what the color (sic) package: A type means for the interior, and this is selectable over leather. The full spec isn't loaded either. Looks like a work in progress.

    Spec seems to include satnav on a 7" screen? Same as the boggo spec Kona. Why a tiny screen. I know it's only an inch smaller than the UK spec Kona, but 1" can make a huge difference, I'm told. :o:D

    Maybe the full spec will change this.

    The new e-Soul has a 10.5 inch screen :)


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    #1037
    icom
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭icom


    Soarer wrote: »
    Anyone?


    From the Kia website today:
    Price includes VRT rebate and SEAI grant


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    #1038
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Price is after rebate

    A number of dealers have the mid range. Unfortuneatly wont get to drive today but booked in tomorrow.

    IF I buy then I will take delivery circa July/August which would actually suit me.

    I had a new RAV4 coming out for a weekend demo so I might have to cancel that......the only issue is that it might be a little small compared to the RAV


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    #1039
    icom
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭icom


    thelikelylad wrote: »
    Looks like it has a PTC heater instead of the heat pump? :(

    PTC Heater_ Int Type
    S
    Inner Condenser HVAC
    S

    Can't complain with the spec other than that though really.

    Inner Condenser HVAC also known as a Heat Pump


    Leaf 40 is the same has both a PTC Heater and a Heat Pump


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    #1040
    Silent Running
    Registered Users Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    icom wrote: »
    The new e-Soul has a 10.5 inch screen :)

    My wife says she wants the e-Soul now. :mad::mad: :D


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    #1041
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    icom wrote: »
    Inner Condenser HVAC also known as a Heat Pump



    So does it have a heat pump?


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    #1042
    Soarer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Silent Running wrote: »
    My wife says she wants the e-Soul now. :mad::mad: :D

    Very few women would refuse a 10.5 inch......screen. ;)


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    #1043
    Shefwedfan
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    Soarer wrote: »
    Very few women would refuse a 10.5 inch......screen. ;)


    It's a bloody cockfest around here :P:P:P:P


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    #1044
    icom
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭icom


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    So does it have a heat pump?

    Although we can technically call an air conditioner a heat pump, the term “heat pump” is generally used to refer to an HVAC system that can pump heat inside or outside.

    I would say yes, it does have a heat pump.


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    #1045
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    icom wrote: »
    Although we can technically call an air conditioner a heat pump, the term “heat pump” is generally used to refer to an HVAC system that can pump heat inside or outside.

    I would say yes, it does have a heat pump.


    More confused now :confused:



    So is it the blowy fan thing that Nissan use to cool the battery?
    Or is it a proper heat pump which saves on range by taking the heat from the battery and pumping into the cabin if required>


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    #1046
    jmpie
    Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭jmpie


    I drove a 39kWh one in Bandon about a month ago, I'm getting it for a 24hr test drive next Tuesday. They had 3 39kWh cars a month ago. No news on the 64kWh from them yet I have a deposit down since Feb on the 64kwh.

    I hope the heat pump is standard the range is still the same anyway I think so must have the heat pump?


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    #1047
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    jmpie wrote: »
    I drove a 39kWh one in Bandon about a month ago, I'm getting it for a 24hr test drive next Tuesday. They had 3 39kWh cars a month ago. No news on the 64kWh from them yet I have a deposit down since Feb on the 64kwh.

    I hope the heat pump is standard the range is still the same anyway I think so must have the heat pump?


    The 64kWh is coming in June/July according to the info I am getting......


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    #1048
    jmpie
    Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭jmpie


    icom wrote: »
    Inner Condenser HVAC also known as a Heat Pump


    Leaf 40 is the same has both a PTC Heater and a Heat Pump

    What the PTC used for? are both the heat pump and the PTC used in the cabin?


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    #1049
    Silent Running
    Registered Users Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    More confused now :confused:



    So is it the blowy fan thing that Nissan use to cool the battery?
    Or is it a proper heat pump which saves on range by taking the heat from the battery and pumping into the cabin if required>

    The heat pump isn't anything to do with battery heating or cooling. It's a cabin heater. It works the same as a fridge, only in reverse to heat the air for the cabin.


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    #1050
    icom
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭icom


    jmpie wrote: »
    What the PTC used for? are both the heat pump and the PTC used in the cabin?


    The car decides which one to use depending on the external conditions.

    When watching a few of TeslaBjorn's videos when he tested the Leaf in winter, he had Leafspy running and you could see when the car was switching between the PTC heater and the Heat Pump.

    I think if it very cold, say -15, the PTC heater would switch in because the Heat Pump would not be as efficient at those very low temperatures.


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    #1051
    Shefwedfan
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    Silent Running wrote: »
    The heat pump isn't anything to do with battery heating or cooling. It's a cabin heater. It works the same as a fridge, only in reverse to heat the air for the cabin.


    My limited knowledge thought it used the heat generated from the battery to heat the cabin.


    VW description was how my little brain thought it was from the battery:


    “The optional heat pump is an energy-efficient alternative for the winter, which uses the ambient air and waste heat from the electrical drive components to provide warmth. This can lead to energy savings of up to 50% compared to an electrical heating system. This in turn has a positive effect on fuel range.”


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