Kia Niro EV

eagerv

Morak Thun wrote: »

Does anyone have a complete and definitive list of options that are missing from the Irish offering?

I know everyone is different in what the want, need, and can do without but if I am paying near 50K for a vehicle before incentives I feel it should at least come with premium sound!!

The one item I would miss is LED lights, don't think the Irish version has them, but could be wrong.

BigAl81

Wonder how much they'd give as a trade in on a 191 Ioniq That range would be amazing!!!

Shefwedfan

BigAl81 wrote: »

Wonder how much they'd give as a trade in on a 191 Ioniq That range would be amazing!!!

I will give you 5k cash....cold hard cash

Shefwedfan

eagerv wrote: »

The one item I would miss is LED lights, don't think the Irish version has them, but could be wrong.

Can you not swap the bulbs or something to get LED?

eagerv

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Can you not swap the bulbs or something to get LED?

I haven't checked but I would imagine no, to legally be as good as factory fitted ones. For example self leveling and washers if over a certain lumens.


Much of my driving is on country roads at night, have been used to LEDs or Xenons for last 15 years, would find it hard to go back to Halogen.

Arbie

Had quite a long time in one today with a short test drive. Agree with most of what Shefwedfan says.

Nice looking outside, a bit plain inside but does not feel cheap. I liked the interior overall, nothing fidgety or garish. The wireless phone charger fits a Note 8, so generous enough. Good storage and armrest. Display is a good size and fits in well - I find other big and intrusive. Good driving position, good visibility.

It does have dual control aircon. Also has adaptive cruise control and LED daylights. Main lights are not LED.

Does not have an app so cannot preheat from phone but it does have heated seats.

It is not an SUV but it is noticeably more spacious than the Kona. Plenty of headroom in the back even for a heavy 6ft2 man. Sits high enough that you don't feel like you are stooping to get in like saloons and some crossovers.

Sales guy was good, knew a lot, even some of the nitty gritty that I have only previously seen discussed here. I spoke with a couple of sales guys while we were waiting for keys and they were all keen on the car, knew a lot about it, which is a very different experience to Hyundai dealers when you ask about Kona or Ioniq...

I thought the regen was quite soft and hardly noticed it even when on maximum (3). But my OH did notice it and did not like it at max.

Boot was fine, not much bigger than a Juke, could maybe fit 1 big suitcase plus 1 small case.

We have test driven Leaf 1 & 2, Model S & X, Zoe, eGolf, Ioniq, Kona, Outlander, i3 and this is the 1st one where we agreed it is a good spec, enough range, comfortable, and reasonable price. Decision made for us, just waiting for chance to put down a deposit.

Sales guy reckoned €38-39k delivered and including metallic paint.

These are the features according to the website:
Comfort
Smart Key (FOB) & Button Start
Immobilizer
Central Door Lock ; Driver's Control
Cluster: Supervision with 7 Inch Tft Lcd+ Rheostat
Inside Rear View Mirror: ECM
Information Display: Clock ; Digital(Front)
Trip Computer (Integrated Type)
Low Washer Fluid Warning
Smart Cruise Control w/Stop & Go
Drive Mode Select
Paddle Shifter
FCA (Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist); Car/Ped/Cyc
MSLA (Manual Speed Limit Assist)
TPMS (High Line)
PDW (Parking Distance Warning) Reverse w/ off Switch
RVM (Rear View Monitor); w/ PG-Dynamic (Parking Guidance-Dynamic)
LFA (Lane Following Assist)
Rain Sensor
Hood Insulator
Power Outlet ; Floor Console(1EA)
Wireless Phone Charger
USB Charger-Console Inside (1Port)
USB Charger-Front Tray (1Port) (1EA)
Auto Temp. Control(Single): Single Auto Air Conditioning
Rear Console Ventilation Duct
RR Heating Duct - 2nd Row
Auto Window Defogger
Air Filter
PTC Heater_ Int Type
Inner Condenser HVAC
Performance
AMS (Alternator Management System) w/ Micom
Battery Saver
Battery Heating System
E-Shift for Shift-by-Wire
Front Shock Absorber ; Conventional Valve
Rear Shock Absorber; Conventional Valve
MDPS(Column)
Manual Tilt & Telescopic
Safety
Depowered Frontal Airbag (Driver & Passenger)
Front Thorax & Pelvis+ Curtain Airbag
Front ; Disc 16 inch
Rear ; Disc 16 inch
ABS+ ESC+ HAC
EPB (Electric Parking Brake) with Autohold
Child Anchor - Upper & Lower (Rear)
Exterior
TMK (Temporary Mobility Kit)
Halogen Lamps (Bi-Func. Projection)
Auto Light Control
LED Daytime Running Light
LED Position Lamp
Rear Spoiler with HMSL
LED HMSL LENS
Front Projection Fog Lamps
Rear LED Fog Lamps
Side Repeater Lamps on the Outside Mirrors
LED Rear Combination Lamps
Rear Combination Lamp: Separated (Inside & Outside)
Outside Mirror Housing: High Glossy
Mirror Adjustment (Driver+ Passenger) - Electric (Heated/Wide)+ Electric (Heated)
Electric Folding Mirror Function
Windshield Glass+ Front Door Glass: Solar With Sunband+ Solar
Rear Door Glass+ Backlite Glass: Solar + Solar
Rear Door Glass+ Backlite Glass: Privacy+ Privacy with Heated
Glazing Function: Accoustic Film (Windshield)
Glazing Function: Backlite Glass ; Heated with Timer
Radiator Grille: Body Color
Bumper: Color ; Body Color
Bumper: Molding ; Non-Painted
Roof Rack
Outside Handle: Chrome Coating
Side Sill ; Black
Waistline ; Chrome Coating
Beltline ; Black & SUS Insert
Wiper Blade ; Aero
Seat
Headrest (Driver+ Passenger): Up/Down & Sliding
Seat: (Driver) ; Height Adjuster
Seat: (Passenger) ; Height Adjuster
Rear Seat: 6:4 Split Back Folding for 3 Passengers
Rear Seat: Up/Down (LH/RH/Center)
Rear Seat: Cup Holder at Center Armrest
Seat Convenience: Heated (Front)
Storage: Seat Back Panel (Driver)
Storage: Seat Back Panel With Pocket(Driver)
Storage: Seat Back Panel With Pocket(Passenger)
Interior
Overhead Console Lamp: Std W/ Sunglass Case
Room Lamp: 2Nd Row (2Bulbs)
Mood Lamp
Luggage Lamp(Bulb)
Window Control(Driver+ Passenger+ Rear): Power(Front ; Auto Up/Down & Safety)
Inside Handle: Chrome Coating
Door Scuff: Deluxe
Center Fascia(Main Pattern): High Glossy
Steering Wheel: 3-Spoke ; Leather
Steering Wheel ; Heated
Roof Trim: Fabric
Cloth Look(A/B/C Pillars)
Sunvisor: Vinyl(Driver & Passenger)
Sunvisor: Vanity Mirror(Driver) - Glass Type
Sunvisor: Vanity Mirror(Passenger) - Glass Type
Sunvisor: Illuminated(Driver & Passenger)
Luggage Trim: Side Trim ; Plastic
Pedals: Aluminium
Storage: Console Box: Material ; Artificial Leather
Storage: Console Box: Storage Box ; 1DIN (Deluxe)
Under Floor Box
Luggage Board
Luggage Net Hook
Luggage: Cargo Screen
Multimedia
Navi.(int. 7.0")+ RDS+ SD Card (Compact)
Speaker Location: Front Door
Speaker Location: Rear Door Low
Speaker Location: Tweeter
Audio Remote Control
Bluetooth w/ Voice Recognition

Shefwedfan

Did you notice on the screen how bright did the colours look? I never really put it on and I just remember it been quite dark when he flicked it on?

What did you think of the other regen? Number 3 would be equivalent of B mode in eGolf

Arbie

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Did you notice on the screen how bright did the colours look? I never really put it on and I just remember it been quite dark when he flicked it on?

What did you think of the other regen? Number 3 would be equivalent of B mode in eGolf

You're right, it wasn't very bright, which suits me as I find big bright screens distracting!

I think eGolf is a nicer drive and prefer B mode, but I like strong regen.

McGiver

Shefwedfan wrote:

As a short drive I didn't really test 1 & 2, just 3. As mentioned 3 really does slow you up quickly but I was used to it after 4 mins and at end was not using brake pedal at all.....

Does it light the brake lights on?

Shefwedfan

McGiver wrote: »

Does it light the brake lights on?

No idea, hard to tell in middle of day, I only noticed B does it on eGolf at night time

McGiver

Shefwedfan wrote:

No idea, hard to tell in middle of day, I only noticed B does it on eGolf at night time

I love driving with high regen and find annoying on gen1 leaf that B regen doesn't light up brake lights. AFAIK i3 does. I think all new EVs should follow that. It's inherently unsafe if high regen doesn't show as braking to the ICErs.

Soarer

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I will give you 5k cash....cold hard cash

€5,001 over here.

Oh yeah, it's on!

daheff

Soarer wrote: »

€5,001 over here.

Oh yeah, it's on!

I’ll see your offer an raise it a half eaten R2D2 M&S chocolate Egg

kuro68k

Word from UK owners is that the headlights are not very good at all.

One thing to note is that the floor is very high. It's not too bad in the front, although there is a bit of a step to get in, but in the back it may be uncomfortable for some people. As well as being a pain to get in/out, you sit with your knees up.

ewj1978

Went to Carlow Rapid charger yesterday and seen A Niro plugged in as I pulled up. Was hoping for it to be a PHEV but no it was the full EV. No owners about so just had a gawp through the windows.
Seemed to be better kitted and fitted than the KONA, obv looked bigger than a KONA. I'll be test driving one next week to see what its actually like.

Shefwedfan

kuro68k wrote: »

Word from UK owners is that the headlights are not very good at all.

One thing to note is that the floor is very high. It's not too bad in the front, although there is a bit of a step to get in, but in the back it may be uncomfortable for some people. As well as being a pain to get in/out, you sit with your knees up.

Unless you have really really Long legs I am not sure this is a problem, I sat in and noticed no issues but I’m no basket ball player

slave1

ewj1978 wrote: »

Went to Carlow Rapid charger yesterday and seen A Niro plugged in as I pulled up. Was hoping for it to be a PHEV but no it was the full EV. No owners about so just had a gawp through the windows.
Seemed to be better kitted and fitted than the KONA, obv looked bigger than a KONA. I'll be test driving one next week to see what its actually like.

No a fan of dealers charging like that, they can easily pull in inside for an overnight or weekend charge via 3pin worst cast scenario

kuro68k

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Unless you have really really Long legs I am not sure this is a problem, I sat in and noticed no issues but I’m no basket ball player

I'm about 180cm, not particularly tall for a dude, and found that there was a bit of a step down getting out in the front and that my knees where elevated in the back.

The interior is okay but some of the plastic looks really cheap, especially in the centre of the wheel. Proper 80s Ford Fiesta stuff.

ewj1978

But still a massive improvement on the kona.

Shefwedfan

kuro68k wrote: »

I'm about 180cm, not particularly tall for a dude, and found that there was a bit of a step down getting out in the front and that my knees where elevated in the back.

The interior is okay but some of the plastic looks really cheap, especially in the centre of the wheel. Proper 80s Ford Fiesta stuff.

It’s a Kia......

I still don’t get the step down etc, it’s actually very small off the ground, have you driven a crossover before?

Morak Thun

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It’s a Kia......

I don't understand why you keep saying "It's a Kia" as if everyone is expecting more than they should.

It's got a 50K pricetag!!

Shefwedfan

Morak Thun wrote: »

I don't understand why you keep saying "It's a Kia" as if everyone is expecting more than they should.

It's got a 50K pricetag!!

Not really 50k, 49k minus 10 so 39k

But it’s a 39k Kia....

Most of that money is going on the battery. The interior is going to be of the exact same quality as every other Kia

Just because the price is more in bmw money doesn’t mean it will be a bmw finish

kuro68k

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The interior is going to be of the exact same quality as every other Kia

No, it's worse. The version sold in other markets, notably Korea where we got the first images and reviews from, is much nicer. More soft touch materials, better spec (ventilated seats, LED lights, mood lighting, 230V outlet, app and live traffic/weather etc.) and blue accents in the interior.

It is expected that the second edition due next year will offer this higher spec. People who pre-ordered the First Edition get the cheap version.

Shefwedfan

kuro68k wrote: »

No, it's worse. The version sold in other markets, notably Korea where we got the first images and reviews from, is much nicer. More soft touch materials, better spec (ventilated seats, LED lights, mood lighting, 230V outlet, app and live traffic/weather etc.) and blue accents in the interior.

It is expected that the second edition due next year will offer this higher spec. People who pre-ordered the First Edition get the cheap version.

It seemed ok to me, a lot better than the sport age I sat into while waiting

ckeng

Am I missing something or has it disappeared off the Kia websites?

Shefwedfan

ckeng wrote: »

Am I missing something or has it disappeared off the Kia websites?

Gone

The dealers must have pulled rank as even when i test drove they where not happy with Kia Ireland as they had just got car and no prices

I am nearly a week later and still no confirmed price from Kia

Fitz2011

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Gone

The dealers must have pulled rank as even when i test drove they where not happy with Kia Ireland as they had just got car and no prices

I am nearly a week later and still no confirmed price from Kia

This is what I got back today from dealer

“I have the Mid Range e-NIRO here for viewing.Retailing at €34,745 after Seai grant and vrt have been taken out.
Stock for sale will not arrive with me until July / August.
The Longer range 64 kwh Battery will arrive in small numbers around the same time with approximately €4,000 extra cost.”

slave1

That really is a no brainer, €4k extra for that range, big impact on useful life of the car

ckeng

Do any of the Kia dealers actually like the car? Today's guy confidently assured me that electric cars are all rubbish and the e-niro will turn out to be crap too.

Mike9832

ckeng wrote: »

Do any of the Kia dealers actually like the car? Today's guy confidently assured me that electric cars are all rubbish and the e-niro will turn out to be crap too.

Alot of people, including the sales guys can't fathom how individuals can give brand new Mercedes C Class money for a Kia that looks like a 90's Chevrolet, they think those individuals are crazy

You can't blame for thinking like that.

The Niro looks like a 25k car, if you told a randomer on the street you paid 40k for one they would think your mad

40k is alot of money