Will Oprah go for it and beat Trump in the next US presidential election.

cycle4fun

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Economy is doing ok

If you only listen to the voices on this side of the Atlantic you would think America has developed into a basket case

It hasn't

Correct, I know a few Irish people there and they are doing well and they say there is a lot of support for Trump.

humpsterfire

its the dawn of identity politicians/politics, everyone splitting into their own stupid tribes (the baby step to national identity and world war 3 yay)

What boxes does she check/tribes does she belong to?

1) The blacks will vote
2) the liberal goons will vote
3) A large section of women will vote

Not bad! But

1) A large section of men wont vote
2) Majority white wont vote
3) Conservative nuts wont vote

She needs all the minority votes in America to win, but there aren't enough of them yet. Still a close call. Americas fate was sealed as soon as they started entertaining identity politics, something we should learn a lesson from (but wont)

Dividing your country into battling subgroups is not a good idea.

wakka12

Yeh !
Maybe angelina jolie next?
Then we may as well start a game show contest where all our favourite or least favourite celebs compete to be elected to rule the worlds most powerful government, economy and military

I for one hope that after Trumps reign americans go back to electing individuals fit for presidency

weldoninhio

wakka12 wrote: »

Yeh !
Maybe angelina jolie next?
Then we may as well start a game show contest where all our favourite or least favourite celebs compete to be elected to rule the worlds most powerful government, economy and military

I for one hope that after Trumps reign americans go back to electing individuals fit for presidency

Big Brother in the White house, and the last to be evicted gets to stay there.

Oranage2

A lot of votes went to Trump because they didn't want some female career politician as their president. A black female career celebrity has no chance.

BorneTobyWilde

Oranage2 wrote: »

A lot of votes went to Trump because they didn't want some female career politician as their president. A black female career celebrity has no chance.

She'll get black vote and women vote and the already blue states. Doesn't really matter what those red states think as she'll win swing states using that black vote and women vote. She'd have a great chance.

weldoninhio

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

She'll get black vote and women vote and the already blue states. Doesn't really matter what those red states think as she'll win swing states using that black vote and women vote. She'd have a great chance.

Why would women vote for someone known as "Weinsteins Pimp"???

tonycascarino

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

She'll get black vote and women vote and the already blue states. Doesn't really matter what those red states think as she'll win swing states using that black vote and women vote. She'd have a great chance.

Not a hope. All people have to do is show all those photos of her cosying up to her close friend Harvey Weinstein and she'll be gone in no time. She is a grade A hypocrite. I'd say she has a huge amount of skeletons in her closet just waiting to be exposed.

https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/hzQWB2z_Ce0-2JoDApH3HAs2iu4/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2014/01/16/123/n/1922398/619166a8d7b80f34_463109465/i/Oprah-kissed-Harvey-Weinstein.jpg

Chrongen

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Economy is doing ok

If you only listen to the voices on this side of the Atlantic you would think America has developed into a basket case

It hasn't

hemmoragging jobs, 40 million in poverty, no increase in real wage terms in decades. Who are you kidding?

Chrongen

Vladimir Poontang wrote: »

She's a billionaire media personality beloved by liberals the world over. She has every chance unfortunately.

Another symptom of how utterly deranged the U.S. has become as a nation.

Trump would beat her like a gong though. He'd have a field day with her admission of smoking crack cocaine.

That's just for starters.

There's also the small matter of her being black (truly black, not mulatto like Obama), female and a lesbian.

Tough sell to the Americans who think they are modern but are in fact medieval.

kunst nugget

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Economy is doing ok

If you only listen to the voices on this side of the Atlantic you would think America has developed into a basket case

It hasn't

From the article linked below:

In talking with people in the different states and territories I was frequently asked how the US compares with other states. While such comparisons are not always perfect, a cross-section of statistical comparisons provides a relatively clear picture of the contrast between the wealth, innovative capacity, and work ethic of the US, and the social and other outcomes that have been attained.

• By most indicators, the US is one of the world’s wealthiest countries. It spends more on national defense than China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, the United Kingdom, India, France and Japan combined.
• US healthcare expenditures per capita are double the OECD average and much higher than in all other countries. But there are many fewer doctors and hospital beds per person than the OECD average.
• US infant mortality rates in 2013 were the highest in the developed world.
• Americans can expect to live shorter and sicker lives, compared to people living in any other rich democracy, and the “health gap” between the US and its peer countries continues to grow.
• US inequality levels are far higher than those in most European countries
• Neglected tropical diseases, including Zika, are increasingly common in the USA. It has been estimated that 12 million Americans live with a neglected parasitic infection. A 2017 report documents the prevalence of hookworm in Lowndes County, Alabama.
• The US has the highest prevalence of obesity in the developed world.
• In terms of access to water and sanitation the US ranks 36th in the world.
• America has the highest incarceration rate in the world, ahead of Turkmenistan, El Salvador, Cuba, Thailand and the Russian Federation. Its rate is nearly five times the OECD average.
• The youth poverty rate in the United States is the highest across the OECD with one quarter of youth living in poverty compared to less than 14% across the OECD.
• The Stanford Center on Inequality and Poverty ranks the most well-off countries in terms of labor markets, poverty, safety net, wealth inequality, and economic mobility. The US comes in last of the top 10 most well-off countries, and 18th amongst the top 21.
• In the OECD the US ranks 35th out of 37 in terms of poverty and inequality.
• According to the World Income Inequality Database, the US has the highest Gini rate (measuring inequality) of all Western Countries
• The Stanford Center on Poverty and Inequality characterizes the US as “a clear and constant outlier in the child poverty league”. US child poverty rates are the highest amongst the six richest countries – Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Sweden and Norway

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/15/extreme-poverty-america-un-special-monitor-report

If that doesn't make it a basket case of a country, I don't know what does.

kunst nugget

You should also read this other longer article by the UN's Philip Alston on his travels through poverty stricken America:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/dec/15/america-extreme-poverty-un-special-rapporteur

Oldtree

Chrongen wrote: »

There's also the small matter of her being black (truly black, not mulatto like Obama), female and a lesbian.

Tough sell to the Americans who think they are modern but are in fact medieval.

First I've heard of that, live and learn.......

After all the tooing and froing on here, I still think she would give it a good go. The only thing I can see stoping her is if Trump can manage in his bumbling twittering way to start a war, and then we are all ****ed

OldMrBrennan83

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salmocab

She seems like a good person and intelligent which in many ways is what America needs but they really need to elect a politician not a media celebrity. It’s recipe for disaster.

kunst nugget

salmocab wrote: »

She seems like a good person and intelligent which in many ways is what America needs but they really need to elect a politician not a media celebrity. It’s recipe for disaster.

I remember the missus watching that documentary series following her on the last season of the Oprah show and the pained expressions on her researchers and assistants throughout gave the impression that she was a bit of a twunt. And given her long association with all sorts of junk science, I think you can strike intelligent off the list as well.

4068ac1elhodqr

The Seal singer chap (the fella that had a number one 90's hit for about 134weeks), makes a fair enough point via the aul instagrammes
https://www.instagram.com/seal/?hl=en 13k likes, he's got a new album out by coincidence.

Grayson

cycle4fun

Chrongen wrote: »

hemmoragging jobs, 40 million in poverty, no increase in real wage terms in decades. Who are you kidding?

Things went from bad to worse under Clinton and then Obama. Up to Trump to stop the relative decline / stand up for America.

salmocab

kunst nugget wrote: »

I remember the missus watching that documentary series following her on the last season of the Oprah show and the pained expressions on her researchers and assistants throughout gave the impression that she was a bit of a twunt. And given her long association with all sorts of junk science, I think you can strike intelligent off the list as well.

I used the word seems because to be honest I know f all about her but have rarely heard bad. As I said though America doesn’t need another celeb running the show.

qwerty ui op

Even if she ran, it would be some crack.

From;
BUILD THAT WALL

to something like;

Nationalism, the patriotic spirit, class and race consciousness, are all ways of the self, and therefore separative. After all, what is a nation but a group of individuals living together for economic and self-protective reasons? Out of fear and acquisitive self-defence arises the idea of "my country", with its boundaries and tariff walls, rendering brotherhood and the unity of man impossible.

JohnMc1

Vladimir Poontang wrote: »

She's a billionaire media personality beloved by liberals the world over. She has every chance unfortunately.

Another symptom of how utterly deranged the U.S. has become as a nation.

Trump would beat her like a gong though. He'd have a field day with her admission of smoking crack cocaine.

That's just for starters.

Politics in Ireland is just as deranged and turned into a team sport just as much as you claim it has in the US.

She would lose alot of credibility if she tried pulling out the Left's go to tactics of "He's a racist." and "He's a Misogynist" without him pulling the "Why did she have me on her show so much then?"[He was practically a regular guest on her show. And she was always praising him for his help with the Black Community. Plus he was one of her last guests on her show] all Trump and his team would have to do is go to the archive footage of the show and have the clips playing on every channel in the US. And ofcourse her connection with Weinstein will be brought in to it as well.

JupiterKid

Id like to see a Michelle Obama run for Pres in 2030 but Oprah is so popular she just might get the numbers. If Trump can win on bluster and celebrity, ten so can she.

Oprah would do a better job than the orange facedcnarcissist IMO. Dammit, a sock puppet would!

c.p.w.g.w

JupiterKid wrote: »

Id like to see a Michelle Obama run for Pres in 2030 but Oprah is so popular she just might get the numbers. If Trump can win on bluster and celebrity, ten so can she.

Oprah would do a better job than the orange facedcnarcissist IMO. Dammit, a sock puppet would!

Oprah would be just as bad as trump...No experience and running off the back of her fame. No substance to her in regards to politics

Chrongen

BillyBobBS wrote: »

She is wasting her time if she runs. Trumps doing a brilliant job as President, economy soaring, jobs up, stock market up, starting to fix the absolute farce of a immigration system etc..

Its the economy stupid.

You've gone a bit quiet since your idol has canceled his visit to the UK and also having stated that "why do we need people from Haiti here? Why can't we have more people from Norway?"

You're knda guy, eh? Billy?

ceadaoin.

Chrongen wrote: »

You've gone a bit quiet since your idol has canceled his visit to the UK and also having stated that "why do we need people from Haiti here? Why can't we have more people from Norway?"

You're knda guy, eh? Billy?

You left out where he called several countries "****holes". Even if you agree with his sentiments, which I'm sure many of his supporters do, the fact that the president of the United states expresses himself in such a manner is disgraceful. Surely he can't last much longer?

SharpshooterTom

ceadaoin. wrote: »

You left out where he called several countries "****holes". Even if you agree with his sentiments, which I'm sure many of his supporters do, the fact that the president of the United states expresses himself in such a manner is disgraceful. Surely he can't last much longer?

He'll very likely last his full term, unless the Democrats can take back both the senate and house. And even then they would still have to find 16/17 senators and 70 odd house republicans to vote for his impeachment, unlikely.

BillyBobBS

Chrongen wrote: »

You've gone a bit quiet since your idol has canceled his visit to the UK and also having stated that "why do we need people from Haiti here? Why can't we have more people from Norway?"

You're knda guy, eh? Billy?

Absolutely he is. He tells it like it is unlike the chancer Obama who was a con man. The US doesn't need people from countries like Haiti.

Trump 20/20, keep America great.

I'd do anything to have a leader like that running our country. Can you imagine Varadkar asking why we are accepting people from non EU countries who's first port of call is another European country? We only should be accepting the very finest and not societies dregs.

Doctor Jimbob

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Absolutely he is. He tells it like it is unlike the chancer Obama who was a con man. The US doesn't need people from countries like Haiti.

Trump 20/20, keep America great.

I'd do anything to have a leader like that running our country. Can you imagine Varadkar asking why we are accepting people from non EU countries who's first port of call is another European country? We only should be accepting the very finest and not societies dregs.

Is that you Donald?

Richard Hillman

Chrongen wrote: »

You've gone a bit quiet since your idol has canceled his visit to the UK and also having stated that "why do we need people from Haiti here? Why can't we have more people from Norway?"

You're knda guy, eh? Billy?

Would you rather people from Norway or Somalia arrive at Dublin airport wishing for a permanent visit?

Wanderer78

BillyBobBS wrote:

I'd do anything to have a leader like that running our country. Can you imagine Varadkar asking why we are accepting people from non EU countries who's first port of call is another European country? We only should be accepting the very finest and not societies dregs.

I might as well 'entertain' myself, please define 'the very finest'. Thank you

RobbingBandit

I'd love to see her do the presidential fitness test

Wanderer78

RobbingBandit wrote:

I'd love to see her do the presidential fitness test

At least we already know what the results of trumps will be!

RobbingBandit

I'm curious to see how he does tbh.

Wanderer78

RobbingBandit wrote: »

I'm curious to see how he does tbh.

i think we ve seen enough, its been as expected

darkdubh

What next? Jerry Springer for president?

4068ac1elhodqr

Here's a question: Would Oprah 2020 get anywhere close to passing any sort of medical test?

With non-stop yo-yo diets (and currently appearing close to obese), don't think she'd have the energy to campaign in '20.
Would she even be able to keep up with any of Bush, Obama's or Trump's continuous golf legacy rotas.

Stonedpilot

Oprah is a incredibly rude foolish bint. She is a classless. Proof?.

Look at how rude she is to this lady simply because the lady said she is in a bible study group. Countless examples of her being classless but this is just one.

She's not fit for the presidency, or anything really for that matter. A simpleton behind it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uTKDoSRK_o

Laois_Man

cycle4fun wrote: »

Things went from bad to worse under Clinton and then Obama. Up to Trump to stop the relative decline / stand up for America.

Lets pretend the 8 years from 2000 to 2008 don't exist eh?

valoren

Oprah? Obama? Have you guys met Keanu?

*tumbleweeds*

Shurimgreat

It would be just wrong on so many levels...no experience of politics, political office, government etc etc. The learning curve would be way to steep. America's enemies across the world would have a field day, when confronted by a president with no experience.

Trump might be bad, but she would be worse.

But the American electorate aint exactly the brightest so there's a possibility she'd be elected at least.

Shurimgreat

darkdubh wrote: »

What next? Jerry Springer for president?

At least he has political experience.

As regards Oprah, there is far more to being president than making a good speech.

Shurimgreat

ebbsy wrote: »

Trump will get another term after this. Democrats are so ****ing stupid trying to attack him that the don't realise that it didn't work the first time. Trump is setting the agenda.

Get a proper candidate. Warren etc have no chance, boring candidates. Gore and Kerry were the same as Hillary, they would put you to sleep.

Hillary was a pretty good candidate. She was undermined by a number of factors outside her control, mainly Russian interference, WikiLeaks interference, general stupidity of vast swathes of the American electorate and a last minute intervention by James Comey which turned out to have no merit.

BorneTobyWilde

tonycascarino wrote: »

Not a hope. All people have to do is show all those photos of her cosying up to her close friend Harvey Weinstein and she'll be gone in no time. She is a grade A hypocrite. I'd say she has a huge amount of skeletons in her closet just waiting to be exposed.

https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/hzQWB2z_Ce0-2JoDApH3HAs2iu4/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2014/01/16/123/n/1922398/619166a8d7b80f34_463109465/i/Oprah-kissed-Harvey-Weinstein.jpg

Whole world had praise for Harvey Weinstein before everyone knew who he really was. Can hardly hold that against her or anyone else.

JohnMc1

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Hillary was a pretty good candidate. She was undermined by a number of factors outside her control, mainly Russian interference, WikiLeaks interference, general stupidity of vast swathes of the American electorate and a last minute intervention by James Comey which turned out to have no merit.

LOL@ Hilary being a good candidate. The epitome of the establishment trying to run as an anti-establishment candidate. If the Democrat base was that passionate about her don't you think she would have gotten the nod in 08 instead then unknown Freshman Senator Obama?

The rest of talking points excuses aren't worth dignifying.

pitifulgod

Not a major fan of Oprah tbh and suspect a far superior candidate with a political background can be found. I also strongly doubt Trump will last till next election.

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Absolutely he is. He tells it like it is unlike the chancer Obama who was a con man. The US doesn't need people from countries like Haiti.

Trump 20/20, keep America great.

I'd do anything to have a leader like that running our country. Can you imagine Varadkar asking why we are accepting people from non EU countries who's first port of call is another European country? We only should be accepting the very finest and not societies dregs.

Alas I don't favour having a morally corrupt racist individual as the leader of the country. You have lots aims..

Vladimir Poontang

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Hillary was a pretty good candidate. She was undermined by a number of factors outside her control, mainly Russian interference, WikiLeaks interference, general stupidity of vast swathes of the American electorate and a last minute intervention by James Comey which turned out to have no merit.

Hahaha straight from the script.

seachto7

Shurimgreat wrote: »

At least he has political experience.

As regards Oprah, there is far more to being president than making a good speech.

The X Factor type generation don't know this. Same as there's more to song writing that singing with stunt vocals and getting your cans out for the camera.

ebbsy

Some people call it racism, I call it controlled immigration.

super_furry

What the US really doesn’t need is another under-qualified television personality being put in charge of the country.

It’s like they cut off a leg by voting in Trump and they’d be cutting off an arm thinking that Oprah is the solution to the idiot they have in charge now.