Fighter jets for the Air Corps?

jonnybigwallet

Do the British or Spanish ever use the AC facilities?

Dohvolle

jonnybigwallet wrote: »

Do the British or Spanish ever use the AC facilities?

Yes.

davydoc

The RAF will ONLY protect our air space IF the threat is ALSO a threat to theirs, otherwise it's every country for itself I'd imagine...

davydoc

Sorry - that relates to a post WAY up the thread - probably already addressed elsewhere

source

davydoc wrote: »

The RAF will ONLY protect our air space IF the threat is ALSO a threat to theirs, otherwise it's every country for itself I'd imagine...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30748619.html

davydoc

Surprised at that, tbh, but see it hasn't been officially confirmed...

Gary kk

They must be warming the pc9 at moment just to scare those White Russians

Heraldoffreeent

Gary kk wrote: »

They must be warming the pc9 at moment just to scare those White Russians

Casa's are having their Bomb racks fitted as we speak...............

Larbre34

Since the other plane called Spectre is the AC-130 Spectre gunship, maybe the PC-12s have a party piece where gatling guns and 20mm cannons appear from nowhere.

roadmaster

I see a single pilot got his wings today is it a bit unusual for a single person to qualify on there own?

Psychlops

roadmaster wrote: »

I see a single pilot got his wings today is it a bit unusual for a single person to qualify on there own?

Yes.

Larbre34

The class of 2021 everybody.

Heraldoffreeent

roadmaster wrote: »

I see a single pilot got his wings today is it a bit unusual for a single person to qualify on there own?

Thats the lad who landed the PC-9 without an engine.

irishrgr

A few days behind the SLAM69 flight.....the Shinner asking questions of the DoD is going to be very disappointed when he gets back the answer along the lines of "this was a routine flight, diplomatic clearances were approved ahead, flight plan was approved, yours etc....." boring. Funny how he didn't ask the minister about the Bear incursion a while back, and I'd submit the Bear was much more of a hazard to navigation than a very cooperative C17 crew doing a bit of sightseeing.

As someone said, this sort of thing goes on all the time, planes come & go. And yes, C17's can land and take off on very short runways, Baldonnell would be no bother. Crew won't get in any trouble, they followed the rules, didn't do anything untoward. Flight crews do this sort of thing from time to time, fly over a cool spot or the likes. The only ones who get in trouble are the ones who do dangerous or silly things (drawing giant phallus' in the sky sort of thing), otherwise its routine.

The US air crews I've spoken to always like stopping in Ireland. It's different than the usual spots (UK, Germany, etc.), they are treated very well, good hospitality and we're nice to them. Fair play to SLAM69, well played them.

Larbre34

**** Sinn Féin.

Markcheese

Larbre34 wrote: »

**** Sinn Féin.

Well , they're the largest political party in the state -(according to polls ) , so maybe you're gonna have to get used to them ... ( Considering their current TDs that's a scary prospect )

Larbre34

Markcheese wrote: »

Well , they're the largest political party in the state -(according to polls ) , so maybe you're gonna have to get used to them ... ( Considering their current TDs that's a scary prospect )

Matters not a jot.

Even if they got 79 seats (which they won't) it'd still be a grand coalition of 81 against them. This talk of an inevitability of SF in Govt is nonsense.

roadmaster

France are selling second hand Rafales to Croatia for 1 billion euros. How much would they cost to run yearly I wonder

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210528-croatia-to-buy-12-used-rafale-fighter-jets-from-france-for-%E2%82%AC1-billion

sparky42

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Larbre34 wrote: »

Matters not a jot.

Even if they got 79 seats (which they won't) it'd still be a grand coalition of 81 against them. This talk of an inevitability of SF in Govt is nonsense.

While it’s the last thing I want to see happen(both because of their history and the track record in NI), at some stage they will be in government, next time Martin will be out as FF leader and there’s going to be a strong wing to do business with the Shinners, hell there is now within FF.

source

roadmaster wrote: »

France are selling second hand Rafales to Croatia for 1 billion euros. How much would they cost to run yearly I wonder

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210528-croatia-to-buy-12-used-rafale-fighter-jets-from-france-for-%E2%82%AC1-billion

Smaller population, smaller gdp, similar defence budget. They are replacing Eastern block jets as opposed to building the capability from scratch but there's still a lot of comparison there. Though having said that Croatia is a member of NATO and probably why they're getting the deal they're getting. The 1bn is getting them the airframes, weapons and training so a very very good deal for them for that aircraft.

sparky42

source wrote: »

Smaller population, smaller gdp, similar defence budget. They are replacing Eastern block jets as opposed to building the capability from scratch but there's still a lot of comparison there. Though having said that Croatia is a member of NATO and probably why they're getting the deal they're getting. The 1bn is getting them the airframes, weapons and training so a very very good deal for them for that aircraft.

There’s also some tension with Serbia who have got new Migs from Russia recently which is driving some of the procurement as well. But yeah it’s a nice deal for them, but also for France who now extend the production line and replace older versions with brand new ones while getting an export customer, wonder if like the Greek deal (or Egyptian one) they might be loaning the money?

Larbre34

NATO or not, if we approached fellow EU members through the Defence channels, I imagine we'd get a good deal on pretty much any surplus or previous generation kit that we wanted. But we just won't.

sparky42

Larbre34 wrote: »

NATO or not, if we approached fellow EU members through the Defence channels, I imagine we'd get a good deal on pretty much any surplus or previous generation kit that we wanted. But we just won't.

Of course, like I said I’m damn full sure France would be delighted to give us a similar deal, it’s brilliant for them each way. Same as how I’ve argued which should pick one European large force and just tack orders for vehicles etc to them, they may not be 100% what we want but the scaling impact and supply chains should offset that, far better than our current procurement “policies”

Manic Moran

Larbre34 wrote: »

**** Sinn Féin.

[Mod]Not a very useful comment, is it?

Try to be a little more relevant to this subforum, please. Who knows, they may end up in power one day as the lawful authority over the defence forces (Or whatever the term is).
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Larbre34

Don't worry, I didn't intend it to be at all useful for a second.

And if they do end up as the Government with control over ÓnhÉ, they are going to get very confused over which one of their Óglaigh na hÉireanns they are talking about at any given time.

Dohvolle

Manic Moran wrote: »

[Mod]Not a very useful comment, is it?

Try to be a little more relevant to this subforum, please. Who knows, they may end up in power one day as the lawful authority over the defence forces (Or whatever the term is).
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At which point Ireland will turn into the Balkans circa 1992. No thank you.

While they continue to have an armed terrorist wing which they like to celebrate, refer to as Oglaigh na hEreann (the proper title of the Irish Defence forces), who are responsible for the death of a member of the Actual irish Defence Force, and numerous police officers of the state, whose prosecution they have resisted, they have no legitimacy as a proper political party on this island.
They are playing to the DF voter at present, promising to get fair pay and conditions, but NOWHERE on their manifesto does it suggest increasing the defence budget to fund this. They are populists, and little more. They attach themselves to whatever cause will win them votes.
Their Border poll promise goes no further than "once we vote for unity, all those who oppose it must leave".

blindsider

Dohvolle wrote: »

At which point Ireland will turn into the Balkans circa 1992. No thank you.

While they continue to have an armed terrorist wing which they like to celebrate, refer to as Oglaigh na hEreann (the proper title of the Irish Defence forces), who are responsible for the death of a member of the Actual irish Defence Force, and numerous police officers of the state, whose prosecution they have resisted, they have no legitimacy as a proper political party on this island.
They are playing to the DF voter at present, promising to get fair pay and conditions, but NOWHERE on their manifesto does it suggest increasing the defence budget to fund this. They are populists, and little more. They attach themselves to whatever cause will win them votes.
Their Border poll promise goes no further than "once we vote for unity, all those who oppose it must leave".

Probably the most important, and accurate, sentence written on Boards today.

The rest of the post is spot on, too!

Sgt. Bilko 09

Larbre34 wrote: »

**** Sinn Féin.

Love Sinn Fein lol

jd

From https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/concerns-raised-over-russian-military-aircraft-flying-in-irish-airspace-m3v9f09jg

The Irish Aviation Authority has raised the issue of incursions by foreign military aircraft into Irish airspace in its submission to the Commission on the Future of the Defence Forces.

The commission last week published a heavily redacted version of the IAA submission, which removed all references to the matter. The redactions were made at the request of the IAA, citing national security concerns.

Larbre34

Very interesting.

No coincidence, perhaps, that the great Commandant Jim Gavin is Ass. Director of the IAA.