Donald Trump Presidency discussion thread III

david75

Please correct me but are we the only developed nation that does this with the White House? Donald is almost literally patting us on the head.

I have my own caustic views on Varadkar and he deserves them(chancer/viper)

But how’s this yearly visit gonna play internationally for Ireland?

https://twitter.com/seandefoe/status/974405055796400128?s=21

LeinsterDub

david75 wrote: »

Please correct me but are we the only developed nation that does this with the White House? Donald is almost literally patting us on the head.

I have my own caustic views on Varadkar and he deserves them(chancer/viper)

But how’s this yearly visit gonna play internationally for Ireland?

https://twitter.com/seandefoe/status/974405055796400128?s=21

Many other nations would bite our hand off to have a yearly standing invitation to the Whitehouse regardless of the president.

ECO_Mental

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/15/donald-trump-jr-s-wife-files-for-divorce-report.html

Well looks like someone is cutting their losses, are the rats starting to jump ship. Trump Jr's missus is divorcing him.....maybe she doesn't want to spend her time going o Supermax every weekend:rolleyes:

everlast75

On the day Mueller sends in subpoenas to Trump Inc.. this happens


https://twitter.com/thehill/status/974408180171202560?s=19

There HAS to be more to the Mueller investigation than just Trump. The behaviour of senior Republicans has gone past the natural instinct to protect "their" guy. They have to be now acting to protect themselves, don't they? What dirt is there to be found out on Lindsay et al?

Nody

ECO_Mental wrote: »

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/15/donald-trump-jr-s-wife-files-for-divorce-report.html

Well looks like someone is cutting their losses, are the rats starting to jump ship. Trump Jr's missus is divorcing him.....maybe she doesn't want to spend her time going o Supermax every weekend:rolleyes:

Trump Junior simply wants to follow in his father's footsteps and trade in current wife for someone younger; then again she might simply be preempting Melanie doing the same to Trump senior over his cheating becoming a public storm (sorry had to).

Loafing Oaf

everlast75 wrote: »

No other president has had sex with a porn star.. so there is that unwanted accolade..

Could only be worse if he admitted to banging Stormzy.

swampgas

everlast75 wrote: »

On the day Mueller sends in subpoenas to Trump Inc.. this happens


https://twitter.com/thehill/status/974408180171202560?s=19

There HAS to be more to the Mueller investigation than just Trump. The behaviour of senior Republicans has gone past the natural instinct to protect "their" guy. They have to be now acting to protect themselves, don't they? What dirt is there to be found out on Lindsay et al?

I suspect many of them have been hacked, with Russia now holding kompromat on them. They tend to be very soft targets from an IT security POV.

Itssoeasy

ECO_Mental wrote: »

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/15/donald-trump-jr-s-wife-files-for-divorce-report.html

Well looks like someone is cutting their losses, are the rats starting to jump ship. Trump Jr's missus is divorcing him.....maybe she doesn't want to spend her time going o Supermax every weekend:rolleyes:

She probably wants to get 50% of something before it becomes 50% of nothing.

Water John

Maybe it has dawned on her, that he is not the brightest.

Call me Al

Itssoeasy wrote: »

She probably wants to get 50% of something before it becomes 50% of nothing.

Or maybe she conveniently gets a whole lot more than 50%, with Don Jr being a kind hearted ex-husband. Maybe that's just the cynic in me coming out.
I wouldn't put it past any of that family.

Peregrinus

Water John wrote: »

Maybe it has dawned on her, that he is not the brightest.

That's far more likely to have been her reason for marrying him, rather than her reason for divorcing him.

Peregrinus

Call me Al wrote: »

Or maybe she conveniently gets a whole lot more than 50%, with Don Jr being a kind hearted ex-husband. Maybe that's just the cynic in me coming out.
I wouldn't put it past any of that family.

She has filed for an uncontested divorce, which means that she think they have already sorted out the financial end of things.

If Don Jr. thinks otherwise, the proceedings will become a contested divorce.

PS: If I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd reckon Don knows he's going down as a result of the Mueller investigation, and he and his wife have been advised that a divorce with a generous financial settlement is a good way to protect some of his assets to pass on to his children. But I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I could think of any number of reasons not involving conspiracies to explain why someone married to a Trump would wish to divorce him.

everlast75

A depressing video showing the unfortunate hypocrisy that emminates from Fox News, or as Jon Stewart used to call it... "bullshít mountain"

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/974450928714747906?s=19

everlast75

As predicted, it looks like the decision has been made..

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378737-trump-to-remove-mcmaster-as-national-security-adviser-report

Note SHS use of the words "there are no changes" and not "there will not be". Anyway, DJT was tweeting in Dec that Tillerson was safe, so it means nothing.

Kelly is on the record as saying that the existence of tariffs against other countries hurts diplomatic relations. Can't be seen to criticise.

Kelly next I reckon... then Sessions?

Leroy42

The one thing that I have noticed in regards to people being fired/resigning, is that overall the MSM have been on top of the stories. The timing generally works out to be wrong, but I can put that down to even Trump not really having a full idea what he wants.

But overall, when the media runs a story that X is leaving the WH, SHS comes out with some sort of claim of fake news, and then a number of weeks later the person leaves.

So I would take the stories about McMaster etc are pretty accurate, at least in substance

Water John

Interesting that Pence met Varadkar for a private breakfast. He is known to not dine alone with a hetrosexual female. Maybe they would try a, come on. Hasn't he the same risk from a homosexual male? !!!

everlast75

Water John wrote: »

Interesting that Pence met Varadkar for a private breakfast. He is known to not dine alone with a hetrosexual female. Maybe they would try a, come on. Hasn't he the same risk from a homosexual male? !!!

I hope Leo gave him a piece of his mind on Pence's belief and advocacy for Conversion Therapy

Water John

He has said Leo's partner is welcome in his home.
It's Leo, who must have applied, the conversion therapy.

jobbridge4life

Manic Moran wrote: »

The counter to that is that Trump still managed to win despite being (I presume) the most disliked candidate probably of all time. He must have done something right to win all those EC votes. Imagine how he would have done if he had the same strategy, without boasting about grabbing women? The thing to take away from the result is that the Republicans had a better strategic outlook on the campaign, focusing on the deciding areas, and that somehow an otherwise fairly competent candidate managed to lose to Trump. It shouldn't have even been close.

That isn't actually a counter argument. It is a restatement of the facts. In pointing out that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote, and more votes than any white man who ever contested the Presidency, it is clearly implicit that she lost. That is the entire context of the conversation. As to the hypotheticals... they are of no value. I'm not being harsh in saying that. I could easily just say what if Comey hadn't said they restarted the investigation? What if the Republicans hadn't spent years on a deliberate strategy to degrade Clinton's reputation?

Manic Moran wrote: »

Where? You can't really bundle the lower income voters of Harlem with the lower income voters of (Swing state) North Carolina, they are just too different to be treated as one 'block'. To be sure, there are a hell of a lot of low income voters in New York, which was not really a swing state. Indeed, in NC polling, the higher-income folks started trending to Clinton, and the working class started trending to Trump. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph.../nc-precincts/
North Carolina's working class may not have had the numbers of those of NY or CA, but they certainly had the weight

I wonder what difference you perceive between people of the same income class in Harlem and North Carolina...

Meanwhile the below demonstrates that even among white working class people Trump was not generally well received.

https://www.prri.org/research/white-working-class-attitudes-economy-trade-immigration-election-donald-trump/

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-consumer-confidence-hits-fresh-14-year-high-1521209584

"U.S. consumers’ confidence hit a fresh 14-year high this month, as lower-income households reported feeling more optimistic about the economy.

The University of Michigan on Friday said the preliminary result of its consumer-sentiment index was 102.0 in March, up from 99.7 in February. That was the highest level since January 2004, and well above the 99.0 economists surveyed by The Wall Street Journal had expected. "

20Cent

Stormy Daniels lawyer now saying accusations she's making against President Donald Trump occurred while he was in office. Also that she was physically threatened to stay silent. This keeps getting worse for trump.

everlast75

20Cent wrote: »

Stormy Daniels lawyer now saying accusations she's making against President Donald Trump occurred while he was in office. Also that she was physically threatened to stay silent. This keeps getting worse for trump.

She's at $175k too so far on her go fund me equivalent

Professor Moriarty

20Cent wrote: »

Stormy Daniels lawyer now saying accusations she's making against President Donald Trump occurred while he was in office. Also that she was physically threatened to stay silent. This keeps getting worse for trump.

If she has proof he's toast. President Pence looms large.

StringerBell

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

If she has proof he's toast. President Pence looms large.

You think it couldn't be worse, but by **** it could with a competent politician in office with his agenda!

Nody

20Cent wrote: »

Stormy Daniels lawyer now saying accusations she's making against President Donald Trump occurred while he was in office. Also that she was physically threatened to stay silent. This keeps getting worse for trump.

Sorry but as someone who's not a Trump fan I call BS; Trump is not the sharpest tool in the drawer but there's way to many people around in the White House for even someone as narcissistic as him to try that. If I was to guess the claims are simply getting more outrageous to drive up the money she'll be offered for a kiss and tell book of the claimed affair etc. I'd not be surprised to hear her claim she was giving BJs in the Oval office before / after a public speech or similar to be the next claim.

strandroad

Nody wrote: »

Sorry but as someone who's not a Trump fan I call BS; Trump is not the sharpest tool in the drawer but there's way to many people around in the White House for even someone as narcissistic as him to try that. If I was to guess the claims are simply getting more outrageous to drive up the money she'll be offered for a kiss and tell book of the claimed affair etc. I'd not be surprised to hear her claim she was giving BJs in the Oval office before / after a public speech or similar to be the next claim.

When they say accusations they might mean threats, not sex, and they don't say that he threatened her in person either. They seem to be describing a threat stick accompanying the financial carrot.

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strandroad wrote: »

When they say accusations they might mean threats, not sex, and they don't say that he threatened her in person either. They seem to be describing a threat stick accompanying the financial carrot.

Fairly large distinction in fairness.

I googled "Stormy Daniels in office" - the results were not what I was expecting

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Professor Moriarty wrote: »

If she has proof he's toast. President Pence looms large.

My interpretation is that she's been threatened to shut up while he's been in office, there's nothing new there in Politics and it won't be enough to bring Trump down no matter how many tears are spilled in her interview. Hugely embarrassing yes, but it's obvious at this point Trump has a somewhat unique ability to brush such things away.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/16/politics/stormy-daniels-trump-allegations-cnntv/index.html

"Is there anything in the litany of accusations -- you would call them facts -- that surround this case that happened while Donald Trump was President?" CNN's Jake Tapper asked Michael Avenatti, Daniels' lawyer, during an interview Friday.


"Yes," Avenatti replied.


When asked by Tapper if he could elaborate, Avenatti gave a simple "no."

Thargor

Trump Jrs divorce is very interesting, on paper about as amicable as a divorce cn get that barely requires lawyers, both parties just agreeing to kill it, but she is tooling up with high powered criminal attorneys that have nothing to do with divorce law, the kind you'd hire if you were up to your neck in it with the likes of Mueller...

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Thargor wrote: »

Trump Jrs divorce is very interesting, on paper about as amicable as a divorce cn get that barely requires lawyers, both parties just agreeing to kill it, but she is tooling up with high powered criminal attorneys that have nothing to do with divorce law, the kind you'd hire if you were up to your neck in it with the likes of Mueller...

I got that vibe too honestly, whoever gets out now won't be associated with it when the proverbial shít hits the fan.

There is another side to it though, apparently she's a very private person and would be understandably shook up over that mail incident among other things. Pressure on people in power is "yuge".