Donald Trump Presidency discussion thread III

jobbridge4life

20Cent wrote: »

Stormy Daniels has photos of trumps dick according to her lawyer on msnbc. Dunno how much more scandal he can take though he does seem impervious to shame.

Link?

As I understand it that claim is false (if viral). Not saying she doesn't mind you but from what I have read the claim hasn't been made, at least not as explicitly as set out above.

20Cent

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Just an idle thought. How can she prove that it belongs to The Donald?

Maybe he sent it to her, maybe the rest of him is in it. Don't want to think about it too much!

jobbridge4life

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

If it's proven that he had an affair with a porn star while his wife was pregnant and then caring for his baby, he's toast.

Based on what? Trump literally starred in soft core porn, this not a secret. His Evangelical base don't like him because of a stellar past, they support him because he is craven to their ambitions, Gorsuch, the vague mutterings in favour of their ****e, the appointment of ultra conservatives to relevant posts.

They are shameless hypocrites of the most egregious kind. Expect no consistency, except that of power grabbing.

Loafing Oaf

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

If it's proven that he had an affair with a porn star

Excuse me, adult film actress , as the more right-on sections of the media are calling her. Reminds of Bill Hicks's takedown of the porn industry for calling its female stars 'models':

Yeah, these are models. Yeah, here's Dusty modelling a fourteen-inch c**k up her a**. Come on down, Dusty.

Professor Moriarty

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Excuse me, adult film actress , as the more right-on sections of the media are calling her. Reminds of Bill Hicks's takedown of the porn industry for calling its female stars 'models':

Is 'Porn Star' not politically correct? Didn't know that.

Loafing Oaf

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Is 'Porn Star' not politically correct? Didn't know that.

Not sure if it's political correctness or just linguistic snootiness but 'adult film actress' definitely seems to be the preferred designation...

Professor Moriarty

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Not sure if it's political correctness or just linguistic snootiness but 'adult film actress' definitely seems to be the preferred designation...

I suppose it will sound better in court.

Water John

CA have removed the Chief Exec Nix. I see this co. go the way of that lovely UK PR firm who went above and beyond the norm in SA. Crash.

mcmoustache

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Reminds of Bill Hicks's takedown of the porn industry for calling its female stars 'models':

He had such a way with words, that man.

Loafing Oaf

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Link?

As I understand it that claim is false (if viral).

Seemingly so.
https://mashable.com/2018/03/19/donald-trump-dick-pic-stormy-daniels/#fYVeEPTfksqX

Michael Avenatti, a lawyer for Stormy Daniels, didn't just claim he had a picture of Trump's orange wang. (Sorry, allegedly orange.)

Professor Moriarty

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Based on what? Trump literally starred in soft core porn, this not a secret. His Evangelical base don't like him because of a stellar past, they support him because he is craven to their ambitions, Gorsuch, the vague mutterings in favour of their ****e, the appointment of ultra conservatives to relevant posts.

They are shameless hypocrites of the most egregious kind. Expect no consistency, except that of power grabbing.

If there is video or audio proof. It won't be the religious extremists that will be his downfall, it will be the GOP. They'll drop him like a hot potato.

Water John

Well, when GOP politicians begin to realise that, with Pence as POTUS, they are still in charge, things will shift quickly. The mid terms may be the catylst or something sooner like Stormy. They then give Pence a 2 year run, before reelection. Might not suit Paul Ryan, but it does for the rest of the GOP.

jobbridge4life

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

If there is video or audio proof. It won't be the religious extremists that will be his downfall, it will be the GOP. They'll drop him like a hot potato.

They didn't drop him after the audio proof of his pussy grabbing, sexual assault admissions.

They didn't drop him inspite of the video of him telling underage girls (12-14!) that they would be ripe for the picking in a few years.

They adopted him inspite of his decades long defilement of women, his wives, any woman he chose to assault, his cheating, his filth in general. Not to mention his racism, his hatred, his etc. What on earth makes you so confident?

relax carry on

Is there anything he won't do? How does that look to you all?

Trump congratulates Putin on winning reelection

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/20/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin/index.html

Professor Moriarty

jobbridge4life wrote: »

They didn't drop him after the audio proof of his pussy grabbing, sexual assault admissions.

They didn't drop him inspite of the video of him telling underage girls (12-14!) that they would be ripe for the picking in a few years.

They adopted him inspite of his decades long defilement of women, his wives, any woman he chose to assault, his cheating, his filth in general. Not to mention his racism, his hatred, his etc. What on earth makes you so confident?

Ignoring his racism and hatred which much of his base approves of anyway, and how many wives he has is a matter for himself, the only proof of anything is the Grab tape. Telling underage girls that they will be ripe for picking is sleazy but not illegal in the US (it would seem). So what proof is there that he is unfit for office other than some 'locker room banter' as he calls it? You say he is sleazy and I agree. Apart from the two examples above, where is the proof?

The real politik is that he suits the GOP for now. However, as I said, he will be dropped like a hot potato if it is proven that he had an affair with a porn star while the first lady was pregnant. Much of his base would vote for him if he ate their children. But GOP politicians in the House and Senate won't risk losing their female vote by supporting Trump if Daniels has proof of what she claims. He will be toast.

Loafing Oaf

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

However, as I said, he will be dropped like a hot potato if it is proven that he had an affair with a porn star while the first lady was pregnant.

Don't see how this is worse than grab em by the you know where, or how the pregnant wife matters particularly...

Hurrache

Water John wrote: »

CA have removed the Chief Exec Nix. I see this co. go the way of that lovely UK PR firm who went above and beyond the norm in SA. Crash.

Thing is it's not like he went on a solo run, they surely knew, and bought into, the methods used.

jobbridge4life

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Ignoring his racism and hatred which much of his base approves of anyway, and how many wives he has is a matter for himself, the only proof of anything is the Grab tape. Telling underage girls that they will be ripe for picking is sleazy but not illegal in the US (it would seem). So what proof is there that he is unfit for office other than some 'locker room banter' as he calls it? You say he is sleazy and I agree. Apart from the two examples above, where is the proof?

The real politik is that he suits the GOP for now. However, as I said, he will be dropped like a hot potato if it is proven that he had an affair with a porn star while the first lady was pregnant. Much of his base would vote for him if he ate their children. But GOP politicians in the House and Senate won't risk losing their female vote by supporting Trump if Daniels has proof of what she claims. He will be toast.

He admitted on tape to sexually assaulting women.

He is recorded on tape telling children he'd date them in a couple of years.

He cheated on his first wife openly, he married the woman he cheated on her with.

This is, and was, all public information. Yet the GOP accepted him.

Stormy Daniels passed a lie detector test in 2011.

I am asking you specifically what makes you so confident that this will be the deal breaker? What do you see here as the reason the GOP will finally drop Trump?

He endorsed a F***ing peadophile for Christ's sake.

Itssoeasy

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Don't see how this is worse than grab em by the you know where, or how the pregnant wife matters particularly...

Well because the GOP like to promote themselves as good god fearing men and women who have a real life version of happy families at home. Also the evangelical crowd are some of the biggest hypocrites going. They present this image of being all self righteous and holier than thou when it's not really that way.

So sorry the pregnant wife matters because of the optics of how it looks. The grabbing them incident wasn't a pregnant future First Lady of the USA.

jobbridge4life

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well because the GOP like to promote themselves as good god fearing men and women who have a real life version of happy families at home. Also the evangelical crowd are some of the biggest hypocrites going. They present this image of being all self righteous and holier than thou when it's not really that way.

So sorry the pregnant wife matters because of the optics of how it looks. The grabbing them incident wasn't a pregnant future First Lady of the USA.

She was his wife at the time. He had already cheated openly on two wives. He had already boasted publicly about his womanizing ways.

So tell me why this is different? What makes anyone so confident this will make his automatons desert him?

everlast75

The porn star stuff will not finish him.

It will bring the office of the president to unprecedented depths, likely never to be repeated.

It will be a shameful mark on the US history and make him renowned for being the most incompetent and immoral president ever.

But no, sadly this will not finish him.

david75

To go tabloid with it, which is pretty much the playing field he’s in, if Stormy releases anything, and Melania then files for divorce, then he truly is toast. He’ll be mentally compromised and unfit to perform the functions of the office so that’s how the GOP will take him out and they’ll have endless former staff whove left his administration to back it up and testify.

Is Paddy power taking bets on this?

Loafing Oaf

Itssoeasy wrote: »

So sorry the pregnant wife matters because of the optics of how it looks. The grabbing them incident wasn't a pregnant future First Lady of the USA.

But who knows what kind of 'understanding' Donald and Melania have? Whereas the 'grabbing' could theoretically affect any woman he came across. As it were...

Beechwoodspark

So trump rang putin today and congratulated him on his election win and pledged to meet him soon.

I hope the British are taking notice, so much for a united response to the Salisbury poisoning.

Loafing Oaf

everlast75 wrote: »

The porn star stuff will not finish him.

It will bring the office of the president to unprecedented depths, likely never to be repeated.

Excuse me.

Itssoeasy

jobbridge4life wrote: »

She was his wife at the time. He had already cheated openly on two wives. He had already boasted publicly about his womanizing ways.

So tell me why this is different? What makes anyone so confident this will make his automatons desert him?

Elections in November matter. It's the same like any politician certainly in the western world and the number one objective once elected is to stay elected. If the GOP lose seats(which they seem like they might) and see things change then.

Look I understand why you seem so pissed off and seem to ask questions in your posts. I went through a period where I was the same. It's trying to inject logic into an utterly illogical situation.

Loafing Oaf

jobbridge4life wrote: »

She was his wife at the time. He had already cheated openly on two wives. He had already boasted publicly about his womanizing ways.?

And in particular about his many affairs with (apparently happily) married women, to add an extra frisson...:P

Itssoeasy

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Excuse me.

Well Monica wasn't a porn star and bill might have gotten away politically by not being impeached but I'd say Hillary still hasn't given them back to him.

jobbridge4life

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Elections in November matter. It's the same like any politician certainly in the western world and the number one objective once elected is to stay elected. If the GOP lose seats(which they seem like they might) and see things change then.

The pussy grabbing tape was available before last November, his cheating was well known before last November, his digusting rhetoric and actions in relation to other women was known before last November. And that was THE November election that truly mattered. And they stood by him and his voters elected him.

They have lost seats, they lost Alabama, after he (with a sizable degree of support from Republicans) rowed in behind a peadophile. He lost the Philadelphia special election, in-spite of a rally and tens of millions of Republican dollars. AND in-spite of the Stormy Daniels story.

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Look I understand why you seem so pissed off and seem to ask questions in your posts. I went through a period where I was the same. It's trying to inject logic into an utterly illogical situation.

My question is to those making the assertion that somehow some piece of 'proof' arising from the Stormy Daniels case (who I remind everyone already passed a polygraph test) will be his undoing, WHY? What makes this the decider when nothing else has been?

I posit that his supporters are depraved. They can't be reasoned with. They can only be defeated.

everlast75

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Excuse me.

Oh here we go again.

Look - Clinton, and JFK while we are at it - had flaws (many both proven and contested) but Trump is in a completely different, and by different I mean leagues below, class. If you cannot see that, I cannot help you