Donald Trump Presidency discussion thread III

everlast75

Water John wrote: »

That State of New York law re adulterous conduct, is first mentioned in the podcast mentioned above.
Great find by Akrisa

Agreed. Just 30 mins in at the moment.

It appears DJT is all kinds of ****ed!

Water John

Now he knows the meaning, when somebody says, he's up to his bo*****s in it.

Pepefrogok

Man this thread has got sad, people desperately hoping for terrible things like clandestine abortions or revenge porn etc, mabey it's time for some of you guys to revaluate what yous stand for? Seems this hatred is consuming some of yous!

strandroad

Pepefrogok wrote: »

Man this thread has got sad, people desperately hoping for terrible things like clandestine abortions or revenge porn etc, mabey it's time for some of you guys to revaluate what yous stand for? Seems this hatred is consuming some of yous!

Why hatred? It's a reality show, he's famous for his shows after all; we are the audience. Which contestant gets the boot next? Will Donald survive in the House until the end of the season? Can Stormy make the rules work for her?

Leroy42

Pepefrogok wrote: »

Man this thread has got sad, people desperately hoping for terrible things like clandestine abortions or revenge porn etc, mabey it's time for some of you guys to revaluate what yous stand for? Seems this hatred is consuming some of yous!

Just ignore them all Pepe.

You concentrate on Trump delivering on his promises. Like building the wall, and moving away from wars like Killary would have. At least he got rid of Obamacare.

If you cared to read into the omnibus spending bill, you will have seen that basically Trump sold out on every promise that he made.

On top of that he has started to go after the 2nd amendment rights by attempting to ban bump stocks.

And, although he claimed throughout the campaign that he thought invading Iraq was a terrible idea and that the CIA had shown themselves to be liars, he has just promoted one of the main architects and a man that still argues in favour of the war, as the NSA.

Daniels is a sideshow. A very serious sideshow for Trump, but a sideshow nonetheless.

dudara

strandroad wrote: »

Why hatred? It's a reality show, he's famous for his shows after all; we are the audience. Which contestant gets the boot next? Will Donald survive in the House until the end of the season? Can Stormy make the rules work for her?

To give Trump credit for one thing, he’s delivering the best reality TV show I’ve ever seen. Pity it actually involves something important, rather than the lives of some reality housewives.

Water John

It's the little things that will trip him up. Yes I do want to see him go down. All because I respect the role of POTUS in world affairs. I genuinely don't care whether a Rep of Dem is the next holder of the Office, as long as they restore, the dignity of the Office.

mcmoustache

Pepefrogok wrote: »

Man this thread has got sad, people desperately hoping for terrible things like clandestine abortions or revenge porn etc, mabey it's time for some of you guys to revaluate what yous stand for? Seems this hatred is consuming some of yous!

When you're supporting a guy who admits to sticking his hands into women's crotches to cop a feel, I'm not sure that you'll be able to gain the high-ground here.

Nice try though. I mean, you need to keep trying - you never know what will stick. Keep fighting the Pepé fight.

Mumha

Mumha

Something must be going on in the background




Dems to top DOJ officials: Publicly promise not to interfere in Mueller's probe

Several Senate Democrats are urging top officials at the Department of Justice (DOJ) to make a public commitment that they will not interfere in special counsel Robert Mueller's probe, including refusing potential requests from the White House.

“We have significant concerns that the president or his White House could order individuals at the Department of Justice with the authority to oversee Special Counsel Mueller’s probe to interfere with the probe or shut it down," they wrote in letters dated March 7 but released publicly on Tuesday.

Democratic Sens. Richard Blumenthal (Conn.), Patrick Leahy (Vt.), Dick Durbin (Ill.), Sheldon Whitehouse (R.I.), Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), Chris Coons (Del.), Mazie Hirono (Hawaii), Cory Booker (N.J.) and Kamala Harris (Calif.) signed the letters.

The senators said they were sending the letters to individuals who are in the line of succession if Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein "were to either resign or be removed."

More: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/380549-dems-to-top-doj-officials-publicly-promise-not-to-interfere-in#.WrrAHlZwQ6c.twitter

Mumha

Robert Kraft of Kraft Foods and owner of the New England Patriots provided his plane to bring the Parkland students to Washington. He left this letter on the plane for them ... nice touch



At the suggestion of former U.S. congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona - who survived a shooting in 2011 - and her husband, retired astronaut Mark Kelly, Kraft loaned one of the team's two planes to fly about half of the families of the 17 of the victims of the Valentine's Day mass shooting at the high school, a handful of the students who were injured, and a group of students who would be performing a song at the march on Saturday in Washington.

A copy of the letter and a Patriots' cap was left on each of the students and families' seats on the plane.

mcmoustache

Mumha wrote: »

That's brilliant. Outside of the whole world going to **** thing, Trump has provided so many comedic opportunities. People should never lose their senses of humour.

everlast75

Two important pieces of info.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/978895467214966784?s=19

Date set for the hearing....

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/978922771924254720?s=19

Loafing Oaf

Stormy Daniels' lawyer Michael Avenatti files motion in California federal court, seeking to depose President Trump

Thought for a second there, he's setting his sights high, isn't that Congress's job.:P

cantwbr1

everlast75 wrote: »

Two important pieces of info.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/978895467214966784?s=19

Date set for the hearing....

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/978922771924254720?s=19

Does Donald get to have legal representation during the deposition. If so can Cohen represent him since he’s going to be deposed also

Christy42

everlast75 wrote: »

Two important pieces of info.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/978895467214966784?s=19

Date set for the hearing....

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/978922771924254720?s=19

It states Trump would need to talk under oath if it is successful. Could this be used to impeach him if he lies?

I mean I figure whatever potentially unprovable things he says about Daniels there is a non trivial chance he will start to bluster about something we can check. For instance if he starts raving off topic about the biggest electoral college win ever or some such could he be impeached for it?

derb12

It'll certainly be interesting and it is great to see this unfolding. However there would be no stomach for impeaching trump based on some braggadocio exaggeration. Better for him to come clean to some version of events with a consensual sexual encounter that a now repentant trump can heartily regret. Evangelicals lap up all that remorse, pray for me, deeply humbly flawed man humbug!

Mumha

cantwbr1 wrote: »

Does Donald get to have legal representation during the deposition. If so can Cohen represent him since he’s going to be deposed also

No, this requires premier league level legal representation, not Sunday Parks football level. In any case, Cohen's lawyers have warned him that it would be better for his own case to actually stay away from Trump, though he has been spotted having dinner twice with Trump at Mar-a-lago, over the last month.

Mumha

derb12 wrote: »

It'll certainly be interesting and it is great to see this unfolding. However there would be no stomach for impeaching trump based on some braggadocio exaggeration. Better for him to come clean to some version of events with a consensual sexual encounter that a now repentant trump can heartily regret. Evangelicals lap up all that remorse, pray for me, deeply humbly flawed man humbug!

I've always been of the opinion that Trump will never face justice, his type rarely do. The tipping point might be if he fired Mueller and going by what happened in the last 24 hours, others think that might just happen over Easter. Two senators (one dem, one rep), Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) and Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.) called for President Donald Trump to let Mueller's investigation proceed "without impediment."

This was quickly followed by nine of the 10 Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee releasing letters to five Department of Justice officials who would take on a more prominent role in overseeing Mueller's probe if Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein — who has defended the special counsel — is fired or resigns.

The letter, spearheaded by Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), seeks "a written and public commitment" from the five officials "that you will not interfere in the Special Counsel’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 elections, possible collusion with such meddling by the Trump campaign, efforts to obstruct justice, and any related inquiry."

Sen. Amy Klobuchar's (D-Minn.) signature was not on the letter, but her office noted that she has publicly supported the goals of the Mueller-protection effort.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/27/trump-mueller-russia-tillis-coons-bipartisan-senate-488468

Leroy42

Just to show the absurdity of the situation.

normally lawyers representing people do not themselves need a lawyer to represent them. The fact that Cohen has one means that he himself is being investigated, quite apart from Donald.

He may well find himself in a situation whereby he will be offered a plea on the basis on giving some info on Trump. Why is Trump still working with him under that possibility?

Mumha

Ekonomou to replace Dowd on Spanky's legal team. Never heard of him.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-lawyer/exclusive-spurned-by-top-lawyers-trumps-defense-elevates-washington-outsider-idUSKBN1H409J

Andrew Ekonomou, 69, is one of a handful of lawyers assisting Jay Sekulow, the main attorney representing Trump in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation.

Sekulow told Reuters on Tuesday that after the departure of Washington attorney John Dowd from Trump’s personal legal team last week, Ekonomou will assume a more prominent role.

The elevation comes at a crucial time in the Mueller probe, as Trump’s team is negotiating the terms under which the president himself may be interviewed. Sekulow is now the last man standing of a trio of personal lawyers hired last spring to assist Trump on the probe. Combative New York lawyer Marc Kasowitz exited the team last summer.

Sekulow said Ekonomou, who works under contract as an assistant district attorney in Brunswick, Georgia, was a “brilliant strategist” who has handled complex investigations for decades. Ekonomou assisted Sekulow in a famous case involving the religious group Jews for Jesus before the Supreme Court in the 1980s.

Really Interested

Christy42 wrote: »

It states Trump would need to talk under oath if it is successful. Could this be used to impeach him if he lies?

I mean I figure whatever potentially unprovable things he says about Daniels there is a non trivial chance he will start to bluster about something we can check. For instance if he starts raving off topic about the biggest electoral college win ever or some such could he be impeached for it?

"Article I: States that in his conduct while President of the United States, William Jefferson Clinton, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has willfully corrupted and manipulated the judicial process of the United States for his personal gain and exoneration, impeding the administration of justice, in that William Jefferson Clinton swore to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth before a Federal grand jury of the United States. States that contrary to that oath, William Jefferson Clinton willfully provided perjurious, false and misleading testimony to the grand jury."

Professor Moriarty

Leroy42 wrote: »

Just to show the absurdity of the situation.

normally lawyers representing people do not themselves need a lawyer to represent them. The fact that Cohen has one means that he himself is being investigated, quite apart from Donald.

He may well find himself in a situation whereby he will be offered a plea on the basis on giving some info on Trump. Why is Trump still working with him under that possibility?

Mutually assured destruction.

Mumha

Leroy42 wrote: »

Just to show the absurdity of the situation.

normally lawyers representing people do not themselves need a lawyer to represent them. The fact that Cohen has one means that he himself is being investigated, quite apart from Donald.

He may well find himself in a situation whereby he will be offered a plea on the basis on giving some info on Trump. Why is Trump still working with him under that possibility?

Because he's still loyal to Trump (and I would expect that to continue), and Trump still has him in his inner circle. He also doesn't want to piss off the one person who would know all about his money laundering.

everlast75

Mumha wrote: »

Because he's still loyal to Trump (and I would expect that to continue), and Trump still has him in his inner circle. He also doesn't want to piss off the one person who would know all about his money laundering.

The mafia had lawyers who were loyal too.. until they were looking at a long stretch and wanted to save their own skin.

Cohen is a sleazeball by all accounts and all of Trump's cohorts turn on him eventually. He will be no different.

It's interesting to note that some of the likely charges which may be brought against Cohen will be State offences - not federal.. which means no pardons from DJT

everlast75

Avenatti has posted online his legal precedents in support of his case. How is that for confidence?

He is also a fantastic wind up merchant..


https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/978959791706996736?s=19

Mumha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLSdfiVJ8r0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_yddF7QnfQ

Mumha

everlast75 wrote: »

The mafia had lawyers who were loyal too.. until they were looking at a long stretch and wanted to save their own skin.

Cohen is a sleazeball by all accounts and all of Trump's cohorts turn on him eventually. He will be no different.

It's interesting to note that some of the likely charges which may be brought against Cohen will be State offences - not federal.. which means no pardons from DJT

Yes absolutely to all that. AG Schneiderman is hot on their trail, and has been working with Mueller.

Mumha

everlast75 wrote: »

Avenatti has posted online his legal precedents in support of his case. How is that for confidence?

He is also a fantastic wind up merchant..


https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/978959791706996736?s=19

It's death by 1000 cuts

I'm not on twitter and I wouldn't retweet him if I was, but Trump's tweeting about how the second amendment will never be repealed. It's funny because not long ago the orange imbecile was talking about taking guns first and due process later!