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BeebRock II - Music Shows on BBC Four, Sky Arts and everywhere else
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Does anyone else find the "unpersoning" of those convicted of offences a little disquieting?
Erasing people from history was Winston Smith's job in "Nineteen Eighty-Four".
Just as well Hitler was never convicted of anything, otherwise the BBC would be unable to mention him in documentaries
The Roman Catholic Church is beyond despicable, it laughs at us as we pay for its crimes. It cares not a jot for the lives it has ruined.
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Hotblack Desiato wrote: »Does anyone else find the "unpersoning" of those convicted of offences a little disquieting?
Erasing people from history was Winston Smith's job in "Nineteen Eighty-Four".
Just as well Hitler was never convicted of anything, otherwise the BBC would be unable to mention him in documentaries
Repeating an old documentary focused on them or one of their concerts... probably not on.
Editing them out of a show in which they are one artist among many... not on."To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)
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Sardonicat wrote: »Guitars on Beeb 4 now for anyone not blessed with Sky Arts and not in the mood for synths.
‘Guitars are on the way out, Mr. Epstein’
Oh Well
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Welsh Megaman wrote: »We’ve reached 1988, brothers and sisters! Again!
Acieeeed! Bros!
Yet noticable lack of chart action from Morris Minor and The Majors
And now over to Skid with the news summary!
HOI!!! You know the rules!!
Skid is the main newsreader around here - the rest of us stick to the sports, traffic or weather.
You can be the Eye In The Sky in the traffic chopper from now on for your insubordination.....0 -
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Well, I said last month that I would do a list of *all* the key TOTP moments of '88, because it was a pretty eventful year for the show.
Before I do, a summary of the key events of the second half of '87 - which was also fairly eventful. Obviously, there was the change in font for the graphics at the end of July, then the launch of Pops USA in September - but also during the autumn, they tweaked the set a bit, and they appeared to stop differentiating between New Entries and Chart Entries (not that many people knew what the difference was anyway).
And the New Year's Eve edition, shown last week, marked the end of Michael Hurll's time as producer (though he'd be back for two stand-in stints in the early '90s). As TV Cream says, "comparing the show now to the show he inherited in the summer of 1980, he'd clearly given it a massive boot up the arse". He had, however, moved into more of an executive role during 1986 - concentrating more on things like getting Pops to the States, and leaving the actual hands-on production to Stanley Appel and Brian Whitehouse.
With the dawn of '88 came the arrival of Paul Ciani - who wasn't in the role for long due to declining health, but who nonetheless made some fairly big changes, as we shall see.
So, without further ado, the key moments of '88. How many will feature in tonight's Story of... documentary?
18 February: Nicky Campbell presents the show for the first time (alongside Gary Davies).
25 February: Mark Goodier presents the show for the first time (alongside Peter Powell). At the same time, the countdown from 40-11 is split into 40-31 and 30-11 - presumably there were reasons for splitting it in this manner, instead of into 40-26 and 25-11.
31 March: Mike Smith presents the show for the last time (alongside Nicky Campbell). The other three editions he presented this year were on 28 January (alongside Gary Davies), 4 February (on his own) and 10 March (alongside Steve Wright). His departure *should* mean that BBC4 won't skip any more editions until the end of the year - unless, of course, there's another shocking revelation...
21 April: S'Express perform "Theme from S'Express" on the show for the first time. Of course, '88 was the year when acid house really started to take off - and as I've said before, this was a genre Pops arguably struggled with even more than it did with punk...
14 July: The last regular edition to be presented by Simon Bates. His co-presenter was Bruno Brookes, who became a regular Pops presenter this year having only presented occasionally since his debut in 1984.
21 July: Andy Crane - then still in the Children's BBC Broom Cupboard - presents the show for the first time (alongside Peter Powell). Apparently, Ciani came up to him at the bar and said, "You've got a very powerful audience of young people, you could bring them to my show." Unsurprisingly - and wrongly - he was promoted as the first person not from Radio 1 to present Pops.
4 August: The last regular edition to be presented by Janice Long sees Kylie make her first studio appearance (performing "The Loco-Motion"), while All About Eve just sit there due to a problem not of their making. (This'll *definitely* be in the Story of... tonight, so I won't spoil it for anyone). Janice co-presented this edition with Mark Goodier; we can only speculate how well she would have worked with Andy and the other kids' TV presenters - though it's more than likely that she wouldn't have worked as well with them as she did with Peely.
11 August: Liz Kershaw presents the show for the first and only time. As you'll see, not only did Ciani recruit kids' presenters, but he also made quite an effort to get more women onto the Pops roster (especially with Janice now gone), from Radio 1 and elsewhere. Liz's co-presenter was Bruno Brookes; the two would go on to co-present the weekend breakfast show on Radio 1.
1 September: A stereo simulcast of Pops begins on Radio 1.
15 September: The last regular edition to be presented by Peter Powell, who left Radio 1 later that month to concentrate on talent management. At the time he was the third-most prolific Pops presenter, behind only You-Know-Who and Tony Blackburn, having made 113 appearances since November 1977 (he's since been overtaken by Gary Davies and Fearne Cotton). Simon Mayo was his co-presenter for this edition.
20 October: The late Caron Keating - then still on Blue Peter - presents the show for the first time (alongside Steve Wright). She'd only present it once more, however (on 8 December, alongside Nicky Campbell).
27 October: Anthea Turner presents the show for the first time (alongside Simon Mayo). She'd go on to be the most prolific of the kids' presenters on Pops, with 23 appearances up to May 1991 including two Christmas shows. Still quite strange that she presented Pops *before* she presented Blue Peter, IMO...
10 November: Sybil Ruscoe presents the show for the first time (alongside Bruno Brookes). She was one of Simon Mayo's sidekicks on the Radio 1 Breakfast Show at the time - as was Jackie Brambles, who'd join the Pops roster in July 1989.
17 November: Susie Mathis presents the show for the first time (alongside Gary Davies). Another one to present only two editions, her appointment was a rather curious one, as she was neither on Radio 1 nor on kids' TV at the time (she was on BBC Radio Manchester, in fact), and she was already in her 40s. Before moving into radio, she'd been one third of late '60s girl group the Paper Dolls.
31 December: 25 Years of Top of the Pops airs on BBC1. The actual 25th anniversary the following day was a Sunday, so it made perfect sense to air this special the evening before. Of course, it won't be shown again because You-Know-Who was the lead presenter...
Also in '88: Pops USA ends in March, The Roxy ends in April, SAW tightens its grip on the charts (not just through Kylie), Siobhan leaves Bananarama...
...yep, a pretty eventful year all right.
The folks at TV Cream aren't wrong, however, when they say, "Inevitably as we move further on in the run the repeats become increasingly less interesting for some viewers, and 1988 may be the point where some of you bail out." But they add, "We remain absolutely fascinated by the whole thing, not least as it's an era of which we have vivid memories, and there'll once more be enough fascinating stuff over the next twelve months to make it worth your while." 0 -
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