Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2019/2020

grumpymunster

I think Conte has even less confidence in young players than Jose - is it a Chelsea pressure thing as Charly, Kenedy and Michy need a bit of confidence that only comes with a few games. Yet no matter how bad or tired the senior players are they still start Morata will almost certainly play against Arsenal even though Michy was excellent yesterday. His movement and touch was first class but then he most likely knew he would not be subbed off as morata was not there.

kev1.3s

grumpymunster wrote: »

I think Conte has even less confidence in young players than Jose - is it a Chelsea pressure thing as Charly, Kenedy and Michy need a bit of confidence that only comes with a few games. Yet no matter how bad or tired the senior players are they still start Morata will almost certainly play against Arsenal even though Michy was excellent yesterday. His movement and touch was first class but then he most likely knew he would not be subbed off as morata was not there.

I don't know if he has less confidence in them that Jose. He's properly promoted Christiansen and ampadu seems to be getting reasonable time, I'd like to see mousonda and kenedy get more game time but I don't think Jose would have done as much to bring youth through.

Tubbs4

Mourinho brought through two top players at the moment. Debrune and salah. Also sturridge when he was playing well and lukaku.
Mourinho will always try to buy success. While it can work other teams have the same spending power so he won't get too far.
Man city are a better choice for big players as they play attacking football.

peteeeed

Sky say we are also in for Ashley Barnes , 3 goals in 24 games ? I hope not

Tubbs4

Spurs dropping points today. Good weekend for chelsea in awhile.

Johann.

Tubbs4 wrote: »

Spurs dropping points today. Good weekend for chelsea in awhile.

About time. Was sat in a bar in Times Square catching the goals yesterday afternoon, Hazard looked serious.

Carry that form into this weeks cup games & hopefully continue to give game time to those in need.

Tubbs4

Hope the front 3 start against arsenal. Kennedy and luiz with some game time and a win.
Also please no 5th tier striker in the January window as will just be for half a season.

peteeeed

https://twitter.com/nizaarkinsella/status/955172196997058564

GavRedKing

Tubbs4 wrote: »

Spurs dropping points today. Good weekend for chelsea in awhile.

Our best hope now is to finish top 4.

If we can put a gap between ourselves Arsenal and Spurs, we're sorted.

GavRedKing

grumpymunster wrote: »

I think Conte has even less confidence in young players than Jose - is it a Chelsea pressure thing as Charly, Kenedy and Michy need a bit of confidence that only comes with a few games. Yet no matter how bad or tired the senior players are they still start Morata will almost certainly play against Arsenal even though Michy was excellent yesterday. His movement and touch was first class but then he most likely knew he would not be subbed off as morata was not there.

I reckon Michy will start against Arsenal and maybe Newcastle in the cup this weekend.

Lose them games, no big deal, its the PL we've to concentrate on now and open up a gap beyween ourselves and Spurs and Arsenal in 5th and 6th.

Not to mention the small matter of Barca in the CL in 4 weeks time.

bullpost

Am I right in thinking that the plan to bring in a big striker is essentially to pair him with Morata and provide some muscle to compliment the guile?

grumpymunster

Talk of the lesser spotted Baba II going to Everton on loan that could well be an excellent loan for him, us and Everton. With Kenedy expected to join Newcastle could be good for his development as well as he wont see much of any game time with us in the short term.

grumpymunster

bullpost wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that the plan to bring in a big striker is essentially to pair him with Morata and provide some muscle to compliment the guile?

Or be big and strong to pick him up when he falls over ......... again.

GavRedKing

bullpost wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that the plan to bring in a big striker is essentially to pair him with Morata and provide some muscle to compliment the guile?

I cant see it TBH, it owuld mean Hazard is either dropped or shunted further back the pitch.

GavRedKing

Hazard came out last night and said we dont need a new CF, especially not a big tall one because the ball shoudl be on the floor and that the 2 CFs we have and himself included, can all do a job.

Said hes happy at the club and has told off his father for linking him with Madrid but will see what the future holds.

hots

bullpost wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that the plan to bring in a big striker is essentially to pair him with Morata and provide some muscle to compliment the guile?

I think it's a purely Plan B signing, Bats is a big lag but he doesn't know how to use it very well. Conte seems to want good football for the most part but with a nice hoofball option if needs be.

GavRedKing

Worrying news from Spain, Bilao have signed up there highly rated GK, Kepa, to a new loing term deal.

Real Madrid were meant to be signing him in the summer so I expect the Courtois/De gea rumours to go into overdrive in the summer.

If Utd and Chelsea can tie both down to new deals, I'm not sure where that leaves Madrid but f**k um.

hots

GavRedKing wrote: »

Worrying news from Spain, Bilao have signed up there highly rated GK, Kepa, to a new loing term deal.

Real Madrid were meant to be signing him in the summer so I expect the Courtois/De gea rumours to go into overdrive in the summer.

If Utd and Chelsea can tie both down to new deals, I'm not sure where that leaves Madrid but f**k um.

Oblak for big money? Donnarumma is another interesting one, only 18 but getting a full season under his belt in serie a this year, although struggling a bit I think.

GavRedKing

hots wrote: »

Oblak for big money? Donnarumma is another interesting one, only 18 but getting a full season under his belt in serie a this year, although struggling a bit I think.

I'd like to sign Donnarumma but the biggest issue there is his agent, Raiola.

Milan have a seriously impressive squad, on paper, who have went through 2 managers already?

The club is rotten really, which is sad considering how big Milan used to be.

GavRedKing

I wonder what sort of team will start on Wednesday?

Big Willy should be playing, if Courtois is still injured or a doubt, wrap him up in cotton wool, same goes for Cesc.

I'd go with

Big Willy
Azp Christensen Rudiger
Moses Bakayoko Kante Alonso
Willian Morata Hazard

I'd rotate even more then for the Newcastle game, give Ampadu, Luiz, Zappa, Kenedy, Cesc, Barkley, Michy all games from the start.

grumpymunster

I would wrap Christensen up a bit as well just in case of some concussion give Ampadu a run even though he will more than likely start Luiz, would start the same front 3 dropping Michy after such a good game just sends out all the wrong signals. Morata has been simply woeful in recent matches and the lack of discipline against Norwich was unsightly, Michy gets dropped when playing badly he should be trusted to see was this a flash in the pan or is this the formation he needs to play well in?

hots

grumpymunster wrote: »

I would wrap Christensen up a bit as well just in case of some concussion give Ampadu a run even though he will more than likely start Luiz, would start the same front 3 dropping Michy after such a good game just sends out all the wrong signals. Morata has been simply woeful in recent matches and the lack of discipline against Norwich was unsightly, Michy gets dropped when playing badly he should be trusted to see was this a flash in the pan or is this the formation he needs to play well in?

Agreed, have to give them a chance to go out and show it wasn't a fluke imo.

GavRedKing

I reckon if Michy started reguarly he wouldnt do too badly but hes not going to be at a level to lead the line for us anytime soon, if at all.

We've two "throw away" games coming up. If we lose to Arsenal and Newcastle I wouldnt be too bothered so I'd play Morata Wednesday and Michy on Saturday.

hots

GavRedKing wrote: »

I reckon if Michy started reguarly he wouldnt do too badly but hes not going to be at a level to lead the line for us anytime soon, if at all.

We've two "throw away" games coming up. If we lose to Arsenal and Newcastle I wouldnt be too bothered so I'd play Morata Wednesday and Michy on Saturday.

He could very well be another Lukaku-type, go away, be the big man for a couple of years and actually learn how to lead the line in a tough league and come back a world beater. It's just very hard to develop that with limited minutes.

bullpost

hots wrote: »

He could very well be another Lukaku-type, go away, be the big man for a couple of years and actually learn how to lead the line in a tough league and come back a world beater. It's just very hard to develop that with limited minutes.

Start him for both cup games. Morata can come off the bench if needed. He was very good at the weekend so give him the chance to build confidence.

Turtwig

GavRedKing wrote: »

Worrying news from Spain, Bilao have signed up there highly rated GK, Kepa, to a new loing term deal.

Real Madrid were meant to be signing him in the summer so I expect the Courtois/De gea rumours to go into overdrive in the summer.

If Utd and Chelsea can tie both down to new deals, I'm not sure where that leaves Madrid but f**k um.

Not worrying at all. The club wants to bump up his release clause before he leaves in the summer. Unlike England, Spain requires a release clause. Where a release clause is satisfied it's up to player to leave or not. The club has no say.

This probably means Madrid will sign him in the summer.

GavRedKing

Turtwig wrote: »

Not worrying at all. The club wants to bump up his release clause before he leaves in the summer. Unlike England, Spain requires a release clause. Where a release clause is satisfied it's up to player to leave or not. The club has no say.

This probably means Madrid will sign him in the summer.

Theyve not had great luck with Basque players over the last few years though.

I know about the buy out clauses in Spain alright, its led to some laughable figures throughout the years. Any idea what his new release clause is?

GavRedKing

Chelsea have offered to buy extra land (circa 2 acres) from the Veterans home, Stoll, behind the current west stand, marked on the map.



https://www.stoll.org.uk/news-post/proposal-provide-new-homes-support-services-homeless-vulnerable-veterans-across-country/

Theyre open to the idea apparently as most of those homes on site are 100 years old so are in need of a major update.

Chelsea would also offer continued support to the Veterans.

I cant imagine that extra space will go towards an increased capacity as the plans are good to go for 60k but the space will offer a bigger outside space for the stadiums footprint and a bigger concourse area for the 15k+ fans on match days.

GavRedKing

Courtois is meant to be back for the Arsenal game.

Big Willy has been good but if Courtois is fit, given its a second leg semi final away top Arsenal, Courtois will probably start with Willy starting at the weekend against Newcastle.

Lukker-

kev1.3s

Looks like klopp will have to wait at least another 5 games for his 5 in a row.

grumpymunster

kev1.3s wrote: »

Looks like klopp will have to wait at least another 5 games for his 5 in a row.

No another 4 defeats and he has 5 in a row

Barr

Gotta love the Pool :pac:

Johner

Good weekend with Spurs and Liverpool dropping points. With United signing Sanchez I think that will get them second. We should have enough for a comfortable third place finish though hopefully.

Crann na Beatha

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grumpymunster

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Not a lot out there for sale really and Dzeko is not really quality steady but not quality.

peteeeed

super frank will be at stamford bridge tonight if the newspaper stories are true , our checkertrade opponents oxford are in talks with him to be their new manager

bullpost

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Ah Its Chelsea. Will Conte be around much longer? Will Harard/Courtois sign extensions, board interference.........................

I think if/when Hazard signs a new contract that will send a massive signal about the intentions of the club going forward. I'd imagine he'll want some cast iron guarantees about the ambitions and plans before signing on the dotted line. Not like he doesnt have options.

The Davestator

Seems strange that we are not interested in aubameyang. Proven quality striker. He has a bit of a reputation, but would be worth a punt for 50-60 mil.?

GavRedKing

The Davestator wrote: »

Seems strange that we are not interested in aubameyang. Proven quality striker. He has a bit of a reputation, but would be worth a punt for 50-60 mil.?

Hes simply not worth it.

Given his age and price, theres no way the board would have went after him.

Thats before you get into the rather large entourage he has to provide for, about 30 family members and the fact hes a head the ball with some discipline issues.

Would have all went sour very quickly.

GavRedKing

Kenedy is in Newcastle to finalise a loan move.

Dzeko has been seen packing suitcases in Rome too.

So with Kenedy out, Emerson is 100% going to be coming and it looks very likely Dzeko will be brought in too.

Decent business, we've been crying out for competition for Alonso for some time.

GavRedKing

Johner wrote: »

Good weekend with Spurs and Liverpool dropping points. With United signing Sanchez I think that will get them second. We should have enough for a comfortable third place finish though hopefully.

Ya, it looks like Sanchez will fire Utd a few goals and wins against more stubborn sides.

2nd, 3rd and 4th are all the same anyway, theres no more CL qualifiers for finishing 4th so you go straight into the hat anyway.

Its only for dick measuring if you finish higher than anyone else because City have been far too good for the rest of the league.

hots

GavRedKing wrote: »

Kenedy is in Newcastle to finalise a loan move.

Dzeko has been seen packing suitcases in Rome too.

So with Kenedy out, Emerson is 100% going to be coming and it looks very likely Dzeko will be brought in too.

Decent business, we've been crying out for competition for Alonso for some time.

It's good squad improvement, and for Jan transfers you can't complain at all. But we're a long way off competing with the manchesters' spending and squad depth imo.

BenK

GavRedKing wrote: »

Ya, it looks like Sanchez will fire Utd a few goals and wins against more stubborn sides.

2nd, 3rd and 4th are all the same anyway, theres no more CL qualifiers for finishing 4th so you go straight into the hat anyway.

Its only for dick measuring if you finish higher than anyone else because City have been far too good for the rest of the league.

While I get your main point, surely it's important for progress and a potential tilt for the main prizes for the next season the higher you finish in the table? Being a clear second, and getting as close to City as possible, as opposed to say scraping fourth is much more preferable imo even allowing for it not counting for trophies this season.

GavRedKing

BenK wrote: »

While I get your main point, surely it's important for progress and a potential tilt for the main prizes for the next season the higher you finish in the table? Being a clear second, and getting as close to City as possible, as opposed to say scraping fourth is much more preferable imo even allowing for it not counting for trophies this season.

Anything other than first for Chelsea is a downgrade, in such circumstances, 2nd, 3rd or 4th holds the same merit for me anyway, as long as we finish top 4, its a decent season.

A trophy would be nice but unlikely.

Finishing outside top 4 is a disaster of a season.

peteeeed

https://twitter.com/ASRomaEN/status/955779151155417088

GavRedKing

Banker to do himself an injury

peteeeed

arsenal press conf
"Morata and Fabregas are out. Not available for the Arsenal game, then I have to check a couple of situations.
on Morata injury: "He has a problem in his back and he is injured"

on Cahill, Drinkwater, Courtois: "I have to check a couple of situation, before I make the best decision for tomorrow's game."

Christensen is fit

on Arsenal: "There is a target for both teams, to reach the final of this competition. I think this is a good target for us, it is a good target for Arsenal. After a 0-0, for sure the game will be very open.

on the Sanchez-Mhkitaryan swap and neither playing: "Arsenal has a good squad, if you remember in the game at home in the league, Sanchez didn't play. It was the same in the Carabao Cup, he played for only 10 mins

on reaching final: "This is an important target. Especially for me, in my first year and a half, I have the opportunity to win the league, play in the FA Cup final, community shield and (maybe) another final."

on Kenedy loan to Newcastle: "Yes, I think he is going on loan to Newcastle."

"For sure, we are talking about a young player with great potential. At this point in his career he needs to play with great regularity. To go to Newcastle is a great challenge for him. I think this way is a good way for the club"

Kenedy can use the loan to follow the same path as Christensen to get into the Chelsea team by being successful at Newcastle.

"He struggled a lot to play at Watford and played only 24 minutes but now he is ready. He has played more games with us.

on transfers: "As you know very well, after this question about Kenedy. I said then if the club decides to loan one play they decide to buy another player or we decide to work with a young player like Dujon Sterling, I am ready for both cases."

on transfers: "I don't know, as you know, if there's news... the club will inform you"

on Man City in the final or Bristol: "In this competition Man City struggled a lot to get to the next round in the FA Cup, it was the same as us against Norwich in the FA Cup." Adds every team in England has upset potential like Bristol

on Arsenal stregnths: "When you play against Arsenal, you must be prepared to suffer without the ball because they like to be offensive and bring many players in the box to find combinations between strikers-midfielders-wingers. We must pay attention and be compact"

on replacing Morata-Cesc with the Brighton front three: "I don't know, I have another night to decide the starting 11. Every game is different and the quality of your opponent changes. You have to decide whether it is right to stick with these players or make changes

on Pirlo wanting a revolution in Italian football after missing WC2018: "I love this player, now he's a former player, unfortunately. What happened in Italy was a disaster, for sure we have to change something."

GavRedKing

I dont think a loss tomorrow night for Arsenal or Chelsea is a disaster given who we'd play in the final.

The front 3 should stay the same, after that, its hard to guess who he'll pick.

GavRedKing

Calling it now, Bristol will beat City and we'll lose to Arsenal.