Bad time to buy GPU?

Dcully · 13-01-2018 12:22pm #1

So im looking to buy a GTX1080 or GTX1070ti, apparently prices are very high at the moment and its a bad time to buy right now?
This one came up on HDUK so i thought id ask you guys on this board.
Good deal or not? i had an MSI card before and it was great.

MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti ARMOR 8G

https://www.novatech.co.uk/products/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-armor-8g-graphics-card/geforcegtx1070tiarmor8g.html#utm_source=tradedoubler&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=2142931_digidip+UK

TerrorFirmer · 13-01-2018 12:29pm

Price are really not great, not so long ago you could get 1070's for £349 and 1080's for £429! But that's a very OK price for a decent 1070Ti in fairness.

ancapailldorcha · 13-01-2018 2:11pm

Agreed. That's an insane amount of money for a card. I think the 1080 is available for only £80 or so more.

ED E · 13-01-2018 2:52pm

We need some boffin to come along and make an FPGA that matches ASIC performance but for multiple algorithms. Finally kill GPU mining and give gamers a hope once again.

CruelCoin · 15-01-2018 1:20pm

With the boom in Cryptocurrencies lately, its likely to be a bad time to buy for a good while yet.

You can wait, by which time you'll be needing a new motherboard, CPU etc, you'll be so long waiting.

Best just bite the bullet really.

K.O.Kiki · 15-01-2018 2:57pm

Or buy used.

GTX 970 & 980/980 Ti aren't affected by crypto AFAIK

CruelCoin · 15-01-2018 4:33pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Or buy used.

GTX 970 & 980/980 Ti aren't affected by crypto AFAIK

True, mostly seems to affect AMD

Dcully · 15-01-2018 4:55pm

This seems to be the best i can do right now and is in stock.
Tempted to just pull the trigger and be done with it.
Any thoughts on this particular card?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-gtx-1070ti-turbo-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-41u-as.html

K.O.Kiki · 15-01-2018 5:54pm

Dcully wrote: »

This seems to be the best i can do right now and is in stock.
Tempted to just pull the trigger and be done with it.
Any thoughts on this particular card?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-gtx-1070ti-turbo-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-41u-as.html

Get it & save for a real cooler in the meantime (NZXT Kraken G12 + watercooler, or Arctic Accelero).

wotzgoingon · 15-01-2018 6:07pm

Them blower fans can get quite loud. But I also never had that card or seen one so it could be fine.

Dcully · 15-01-2018 6:14pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Get it & save for a real cooler in the meantime (NZXT Kraken G12 + watercooler, or Arctic Accelero).

So id need more cooling on it ? :eek:

game4it70 · 15-01-2018 6:23pm

Dcully wrote: »

So id need more cooling on it ? :eek:

I'd pay the extra few bob for this
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-armor-8gb-gddr5-vr-ready-graphics-card-2432-core-1607mhz-gpu-1683mhz-boost

Or wait for this one (pre-order date of tomorrow) with a 5 year warranty
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070ti-mini-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-zt-p10710g-10p-gx-10s-zt.html

K.O.Kiki · 15-01-2018 6:29pm

Dcully wrote: »

So id need more cooling on it ? :eek:

You don't NEED more cooling (it will still run) but blower cards are louder, and more likely to throttle speeds as they can't cool as effectively as a dual/triple fan cooler.

game4it70 wrote: »

I'd pay the extra few bob for this
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-armor-8gb-gddr5-vr-ready-graphics-card-2432-core-1607mhz-gpu-1683mhz-boost

Or wait for this one (pre-order date of tomorrow) with a 5 year warranty
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070ti-mini-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-zt-p10710g-10p-gx-10s-zt.html

Not sure on the MSI Armor; their 1080 Ti version is known to thermal-throttle immediately (or even fail outright!)

Zotac aren't much better at the high-end.

Check GamersNexus for more.

Redfox25 · 15-01-2018 6:29pm

Dcully wrote: »

So id need more cooling on it ? :eek:

If its likely you will need more/better cooling for that card , then consider this one, its 50 quid more but has a better cooling system and is back in stock tomorrow.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070ti-amp-extreme-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-zt-p10710b-10p-gx-10u-zt.html

Dcully · 15-01-2018 6:32pm

Seems theres a hurdle every way i look

How about this one?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-gtx-1070ti-cerberus-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-41w-as.html

TerrorFirmer · 15-01-2018 6:45pm

I would just get the Palit 1070ti for £409. I know its out of stock but you can still order now. I wouldn't be mad about the blower model version.

skankles · 15-01-2018 7:13pm

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I would just get the Palit 1070ti for £409. I know its out of stock but you can still order now. I wouldn't be mad about the blower model version.

I’ve actually been looking at this too. OCUK just restocked. The Ti is same price as the 1070...I’m so confused with 1070 cards. Is Ti any better

I assume they all pretty much the same. The Strix and MSI versions may not fit in my case Zalman Z11plus...the above will fit.

K.O.Kiki · 16-01-2018 12:39am

skankles wrote: »

I’ve actually been looking at this too. OCUK just restocked. The Ti is same price as the 1070...I’m so confused with 1070 cards. Is Ti any better

I assume they all pretty much the same. The Strix and MSI versions may not fit in my case Zalman Z11plus...the above will fit.

1070 Ti is way better than 1070; it's basically a 1080.

wotzgoingon · 16-01-2018 12:53am

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

1070 Ti is way better than 1070; it's basically a 1080.

Well minus the better memory on the 1080.

Dcully · 16-01-2018 11:30pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT-pP4wvLV8

Cuddlesworth · 17-01-2018 10:33am

He isn't wrong. If you bought a 1080 two years ago, its still the second best consumer card on the market and you would be lucky to get it at the same price. The market has gotten very weird very fast.

K.O.Kiki · 17-01-2018 11:52am

Keep an eye for deals on prebuilts, e.g. Dell on eBay.

You can still find systems at RRP that way!

Dcully · 17-01-2018 1:05pm

I can hold out until something changes, my 970 still does 1440 pretty good at medium settings some high depending on games but im concerned if anything happens my 970 in the meantime im screwed.

BloodBath · 17-01-2018 8:42pm

The crypto markets are crashing at the moment. The bubble has burst. Down 30% and will continue going down. I'd expect panic selling soon. There's gonna be a hell of a lot of second hand graphics cards coming on the market soon and a return to somewhat normal pricing once the demand drops.

Cuddlesworth · 17-01-2018 11:06pm

BloodBath wrote: »

The crypto markets are crashing at the moment. The bubble has burst. Down 30% and will continue going down. I'd expect panic selling soon. There's gonna be a hell of a lot of second hand graphics cards coming on the market soon and a return to somewhat normal pricing once the demand drops.

Doubt it. You would need to see a drop to where the miners are paying more for electricity then the coins they mine. And plenty of miners pay near 0 for their sources.

Dcully · 17-01-2018 11:28pm

BloodBath wrote: »

The crypto markets are crashing at the moment. The bubble has burst. Down 30% and will continue going down. I'd expect panic selling soon. There's gonna be a hell of a lot of second hand graphics cards coming on the market soon and a return to somewhat normal pricing once the demand drops.

I hope so , one has to ask the question would one of these hard working second hand cards have much life left in them and be worth buying?

smacl · 17-01-2018 11:46pm

Dcully wrote: »

I hope so , one has to ask the question would one of these hard working second hand cards have much life left in them and be worth buying?

I'd be dubious of picking up any component that's been running 24/7 long term. Maybe ok for high end server components but not fan cooled graphics cards.

Nedved85 · 18-01-2018 10:33am

I preordered the Zotac GTX 1070 ti mini about ten days ago for €439 from amazon.fr.
Looks at its price now :O
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B076S4RT1J/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

ED E · 18-01-2018 8:17pm

Dcully wrote: »

I hope so , one has to ask the question would one of these hard working second hand cards have much life left in them and be worth buying?

Lots will get sold off under false pretenses, has happened before many times.

Really the wear isnt terrible. They're on 24/7 so they dont go through many thermal cycles.

BloodBath wrote: »

The crypto markets are crashing at the moment. The bubble has burst. Down 30% and will continue going down. I'd expect panic selling soon. There's gonna be a hell of a lot of second hand graphics cards coming on the market soon and a return to somewhat normal pricing once the demand drops.

Its already rallied to almost 12k, just a blip on the radar.

HODL!

HODL!

ShadowHearth · 20-01-2018 3:49am

Okay, this gpu price thing got really ridiculous.

Watched a video just now about how it is a bad time to build a pc and most of it was due to prices of gpus.

My 680 died on me in 2016 so I got Gygabite G1 1060 6gb for 249£. For ****s and giggles I checked how much it is now in the same place I bought it. Well, it sells now for 349£ after 1.5 years!!! Thats just wrong!!!
It feels like 10 series are out forever and prices just go up, instead down. Don't even want to know the mid range prices of next gen gpus...

Cuddlesworth · 20-01-2018 6:04pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Okay, this gpu price thing got really ridiculous.

Its ridiculous, RAM pricing too, and its the main reason I'm not bothering to upgrade right now.

Here is a nice challenge. Beat this Dell build.

Thats a
ATX case,
Power supply 460 watts,
Ryzen 5 1400
8gbs of 2400mhz Ram
250gig SSD
1Tb 3.5 inch disk
AMD RX580 8gig
Keyboard and Mouse
Window 10 OS

All pre-built, tested and delivered to your door in 2 weeks with a 1 year collect and return Warranty. For 1005 Euros.

Even if you came close on price, you would struggle to actually have the graphics card shipped this quarter.

If you went back 2 years to a decade, you would struggle to show any real value in a dell gaming desktop outside of a self build. Right now, I would just tell them to buy the dell.

Bad time to buy GPU?

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