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Where to get bullets made
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15-01-2018 4:19am#1Hi
Im not actually looking for live ammunition, But I do need metalwork similar to bullets (brass) done.
Is there a company in Ireland or china anyone knows of that could do the work?
Obviously doesnt need to be an arms dealer either!! Any help appreciated.
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BattleCorp wrote: »You'd want deep pockets if you want 8000 fake bullets made from brass on a lathe and then drilled. Also, if they are made from brass, what are you going to use as the lead part of the bullet? Would you need to paint the tip of the bullet either grey or a copper colour?
Dont need any lead - I need a weighted bullet shape piece of metal in various weights, Lead is too soft, but any harder metal really will do.
Something like this
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8000 is a large amount. You're facing two issues I guess, supply and cost.
Getting spent rifle brass in those type of quantities is a supply problem, and that's ignoring what you'd need to do to them to render them legal to possess without a license.
A machine shop will produce whatever shape you want but as someone with no real experience in the field I can only imagine that it would not be cheap. That's the cost problem.
Maybe someone with a machining background might be able to post a very ballpark costing
Yeah the cost in ireland would be too great, which is why I was also considering china - I have e-mailed a few weapons companies but I presume they would consider the order too small.
One told me they were concentrating more on missile defence these days!!!!
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Even if you were to just buy normal solid copper bullets (which you cannot import or process) 8000 would cost a fortune... a box of 50 is going to be between 40 -80 dollars. So about €7000 before shipping...
And there is no point in contacting weapons companies because they cannot legally sell anything to you without a licence..
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/328792/lehigh-defense-controlled-fracturing-bullets-458-caliber-subsonic-458-diameter-570-grain-solid-brass-box-of-20
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/943009/lehigh-defense-maximum-expansion-bullets-300-aac-blackout-308-diameter-subsonic-194-grain-solid-copper-expanding-boat-tail-lead-free-box-of-50
Again they wouldnt be that dear - no lead, no powder, no pin no import problems.
I was e-mailing weapons companies in china
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Again they wouldnt be that dear - no lead, no powder, no pin no import problems.
I was e-mailing weapons companies in china
Hey ardinn just so you're up to speed. Real rifle brass without lead*, powder or a primer would still require a license here and people have been caught importing them.
Something made from a bar of brass on a lathe to resemble rifle brass would not require a license
*lead covered in copper and usually referred to as the bullet or head0 -
Hey ardinn just so you're up to speed. Real rifle brass without lead*, powder or a primer would still require a license here and people have been caught importing them.
Something made from a bar of brass on a lathe to resemble rifle brass would not require a license
*lead covered in copper and usually referred to as the bullet or head
Can nobody see the pic above?
Fair enough - I know lads importing similar in smaller quantities, such as the pic above.
This is proving most dificult
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Ardinn, he's talking about actual bullets. Just to clarify:Again they wouldnt be that dear - no lead, no powder, no pin no import problems.
Bullet (usually solid, sometimes with a small void at the tip, usually mostly lead which is somewhere around a quarter the price of brass):
Casing (sometimes referred to as "brass"):
Round:
Buying real versions of the above is going to be problematic I suspect, particularly in those quantities. Is it necessary that it be metal? Plastic snap caps would be the shape you need, but in polymer. You can get them in brass, but they're even more expensive (around $10 for 6 whereas you could get 50 plastic snap caps for around $10).0 -
Ardinn, he's talking about actual bullets. Just to clarify:
Buying real versions of the above is going to be problematic I suspect, particularly in those quantities. Is it necessary that it be metal? Plastic snap caps would be the shape you need, but in polymer. You can get them in brass, but they're even more expensive (around $10 for 6 whereas you could get 50 plastic snap caps for around $10).
Hows that image?
They do have to be metal - I need them weighted
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You can get something like that ready-made in the form of brass snap caps, but they're very expensive in the quantities you're talking about (which is unsurprising, there's a bit of machining involved in each one and the market doesn't treat them as consumables).
KP Tactical in the US make them (see kptactical.com). I think you'd want to find an EU supplier though, imports could be interesting legally.
In fact, based on events in the National College of Art and Design a few years ago, I would strongly advise having a chat with your local Garda Superintendent before placing your order and making sure he knows what you're doing and that it's harmless; otherwise you may wind up having a less-amicable kind of chat with him regarding a customs impounding incident...
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Walter Mittys Brother wrote: »For fishing? I always use lead. Often make my own from moulds. Why brass?
They are a specific shape for lures with a rounded inlet on the big end for beads and swivels and a hole through for steel wire and snaps.
I have the dimensions and am not looking for stock casings, I would need them made!
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They are a specific shape for lures with a rounded inlet on the big end for beads and swivels and a hole through for steel wire and snaps.
I have the dimensions and am not looking for stock casings, I would need them made!
Ah I think I understand. Brass itself would be expensive not to mention machine work
China would b cheap for labour but shipping takes forever
Buy a DIY lathe yourself may be cheaper option?0 -
Walter Mittys Brother wrote: »Ah I think I understand. Brass itself would be expensive not to mention machine work China would b cheap for labour but shipping takes forever
Buy a DIY lathe yourself may be cheaper option?
You'd be looking at excess of 6 - 10k in labour alone to get those made, ex VAT ex material ex everything.
Youd probably need a CNC lathe and bar feeder to do it yourself, unless you have the patience of a saint.
China would probably be your best bet, no idea how youd even go about it though. Probably have to travel over.0 -
You'd be looking at excess of 6 - 10k in labour alone to get those made, ex VAT ex material ex everything.
Youd probably need a CNC lathe and bar feeder to do it yourself, unless you have the patience of a saint.
China would probably be your best bet, no idea how youd even go about it though. Probably have to travel over.
No I have the dimensions, just send them over and get some samples tweak until right.
Postage would be the biggest hurdle!
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