Dublin Airport Spar to close as DAA moves in new direction

Juran

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"The airport wants a ‘high quality’ coffee offering for international passengers"[/font]
I think that should read the DAA wants higher priced coffee. The DAA sees that local chain shops like Spar, don't charge extortion prices. Irish airports will soon be like American, Singapore, Paris, etc.. airports, where a coffee costs $5 - €8. 
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/dublin-airport-spar-to-close-as-daa-moves-in-new-direction-1.3355034

afatbollix

The airport works a profit share system. Of course, they want the more profitable coffee sold in the airport.


But you know 1p flights and all that.

Mint Sauce

So what about recognising it's Irish Passengers, and having someplace they recognise, either on arrival or leaving the Airport. Or they could just stop selling coffee.

biko

By high quality they mean some ****e like Starbucks or other sugary "coffee" place

"Double grande special cream machinatinio with extra marshmallows please"

Juran

Juran wrote: »

I think that should read the DAA wants higher priced coffee. The DAA sees that local chain shops like Spar, don't charge extortion prices.

Spar is Dutch isn't it?

And err, yes, it does charge extortionate prices, like every other Spar does.

c.p.w.g.w

Aegir wrote: »

Spar is Dutch isn't it?

And err, yes, it does charge extortionate prices, like every other Spar does.

I wanna say Danish

Cienciano

If you think it's overpriced, don't fúcking buy it. It's as simple as that. If they charge €8 and you still buy it, Dublin Airport were dead right to raise the price.

listermint

Why not.... both. Its a big poxy building..

BGozIE

listermint wrote: »

Why not.... both. Its a big poxy building..

Lot of wasted space...high ceilings and all that

Sofiztikated

Juran wrote: »

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"The airport wants a ‘high quality’ coffee offering for international passengers"[/font]
I think that should read the DAA wants higher priced coffee. The DAA sees that local chain shops like Spar, don't charge extortion prices. Irish airports will soon be like American, Singapore, Paris, etc.. airports, where a coffee costs $5 - €8. 
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/dublin-airport-spar-to-close-as-daa-moves-in-new-direction-1.3355034

Spar, the local chain with 12500 stores across 42 countries, with its hq in The Netherlands?

And it's coffee is adequate, but expensive.

Sofiztikated

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Spar, the local chain with 12500 stores across 42 countries, with its hq in The Netherlands?

And it's coffee is adequate, but expensive.

The coffee is Irish though, I believe.

Isn't Insomnia owned by one of the dragons?

SBourgaize

biko wrote: »

By high quality they mean some ****e like Starbucks or other sugary "coffee" place

"Double grande special cream machinatinio with extra marshmallows please"

Don't buy a Double grande special cream machinatinio with extra marshmallows then.

Starbucks has a pretty big selection of different blends available if you actually ask them. Can't blame them for giving people what they order.



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Edit: The joys of being a new account - that looks dodgy as hell. I swear I'm not a spambot.

goose2005

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Spar, the local chain with 12500 stores across 42 countries, with its hq in The Netherlands?

And it's coffee is adequate, but expensive.

Spar is a franchise, so most of them are locally owned. Although I suppose the same is true of McDonald's...

kravmaga

Aegir wrote: »

The coffee is Irish though, I believe.

Isn't Insomnia owned by one of the dragons?

yes its Bobby Kerr is CEO and owner of Insomnia

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

kravmaga wrote: »

yes its Bobby Kerr is CEO and owner of Insomnia

He sold out to the other shareholders only this week.

diomed

I have never bought coffee in a shop, but when I worked in the airport I used the Spar shop.
Airport shops are used by more than international posers.

Sofiztikated

Aegir wrote: »

The coffee is Irish though, I believe.

Isn't Insomnia owned by one of the dragons?

I thought Spar had Seattle's Best Coffee as it's instore brand.

Funnily enough, it's owned by Starbucks.

For Forks Sake

Sofiztikated wrote: »

I thought Spar had Seattle's Best Coffee as it's instore brand.

Funnily enough, it's owned by Starbucks.

That's as big a lie as you'll see anywhere, that coffee is awful sh1te.

Del2005

Aegir wrote: »

The coffee is Irish though, I believe.

?

When did Ireland move to a zone where coffee grows? Because the weather should be way better here if we are growing coffee. Just because someone sticks something in a posh oven doesn't make it an Irish coffee.

Del2005

Del2005 wrote: »

When did Ireland move to a zone where coffee grows? Because the weather should be way better here if we are growing coffee. Just because someone sticks something in a posh oven doesn't make it an Irish coffee.

I suddenly thought that when I hit enter, I should have said an Irish owned brand.

GLaDOS

Surely the obvious problem here is replacing Spar, which sells a variety of products, with a coffee shop with a smaller, more specialised range of products.

GLaDOS

GLaDOS wrote: »

Surely the obvious problem here is replacing Spar, which sells a variety of products, with a coffee shop with a smaller, more specialised range of products.

what they really need is a vending machine that sells bread, eggs and milk so you don't have to stop for essentials on the way home.

Reckless Abandonment

From what I hear the DAA are such a pain to deal with I've a feeling spar won't be to upset .

Vic_08

Spar was the only place in T2 to buy a leap card/visitor leap card.

baylah17

kravmaga wrote: »

Aegir wrote: »

The coffee is Irish though, I believe.

Isn't Insomnia owned by one of the dragons?

yes its Bobby Kerr is CEO and owner of Insomnia

Nope
He cashed in his chips
Sold out
Enjoying his sailing these days

donegaLroad

biko wrote: »

By high quality they mean some ****e like Starbucks or other sugary "coffee" place

"Double grande special cream machinatinio with extra marshmallows please"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT8BFVtFlfU

suicide_circus

BGozIE wrote: »

Lot of wasted space...high ceilings and all that

Sorry now but high ceilings are a good thing

fryup

while we're at it...

how come there's a WH Smith at Dublin airport but there's none in the rest of the country?

a very cool kid

fryup wrote: »

while we're at it...

how come there's a WH Smith at Dublin airport but there's none in the rest of the country?

€€€€

Although I believe the stationery/bookshop section of Arnotts is franchised to WH Smith also

AndyBoBandy

The change of the outlet is in line with Dublin Airport’s vision that every passenger is “well fed and ready for their journey”.

But it’s in the fcuking arrivals hall!!

I love this Spar, and always buy a coffee there when I’m collecting someone (the coffee is grand), but never when I’m travelling (and I travel a lot through T2). I even buy milk & the odd lotto ticket there.

If they want passengers to be well fed, do it after security!
What passengers decide they’ll sit and have their frocca mocha latte before they go through security? Or transit passengers: “I’ll just nip out past security for a coffee, and then queue up for 20 minutes to get back airside”

I’d say most of its customers are people waiting for other people to arrive (it is the arrivals hall after all). But yeah, let’s replace it with a bloody Starbucks so people with MacBooks can sit there pretending to write novels.

If they want rid of the Spar, fine, get rid of it, but don’t come out and say it’ll be for the benefit of passengers.

It’s greed pure & simple.

Victor

afatbollix wrote: »

The airport works a profit share system.

I don't think that applies to all shops, only some.

Skedaddle

fryup wrote: »

while we're at it...

how come there's a WH Smith at Dublin airport but there's none in the rest of the country?

There's one in Cork Airport too. Actually two, but I assume it's the same business - there's one in departures and one airside.

hynesie08

I've actually never been in the t2 spar, was there any truth to the rumors you could buy cans there 24/7?

Fr_Dougal

Probably about controlling what’s sold in the unit. Spar can pretty much sell any food/grocery they want, which would compete with WHS and any other food business that opens up. Stick in a Costa etc., all they’ll sell is coffee and prepackaged sandwiches. Limit and control.

AndyBoBandy

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Probably about controlling what’s sold in the unit. Spar can pretty much sell any food/grocery they want, which would compete with WHS and any other food business that opens up. Stick in a Costa etc., all they’ll sell is coffee and prepackaged sandwiches. Limit and control.

True, any evening I’m there, the WHS is always quieter than a funeral home, and there’s always regular traffic through the Spar.

I’d say WHS had a big say/influence in this move.

The Davestator

hynesie08 wrote: »

I've actually never been in the t2 spar, was there any truth to the rumors you could buy cans there 24/7?

I've heard of people being brought by taxi drivers for late cans and on Good Friday. No personal experience though

ScouseMouse

afatbollix wrote: »

The airport works a profit share system. Of course, they want the more profitable coffee sold in the airport.


But you know 1p flights and all that.

Ain't no 1 cent flights out if T2

Hector Savage

Boom is back !!!

Christ I PRAY for the next crash.
Boom helps no one, just everyone gets ****ed.
Yay I got a 20% raise - but the cost of living goes up 40% ... oh yeah and while we're at it let Ireland get DESTROYED by mass tourism.
Doesn't matter does it, bags of cash to be made.

BattleCorp

Aegir wrote: »

Spar is Dutch isn't it?

Spar Europe is headquartered in The Netherlands but has very little to do with the running of Spar Ireland. Yes, they are linked but they don't own or run Spar Ireland.

Up until recently Spar Ireland was 100% owned by three Irish guys (BWG Foods). There has been investment from Spar South Africa and now it's co-owned between BWG Foods and Spar South Africa.

Most Spar shops here are franchises, in other words Spar don't own the shops. Shop owners can enter a contract with Spar meaning that Spar supplies them and the shop is branded Spar. It's the same principle with Centra, Daybreak, Mace, SuperValu, Eurospar etc.

This is a guess but I'd lay money on it that I'm right but I reckon they are getting rid of the Spar in the airport because they reckon they can get more rent from somebody else.

markpb

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

The change of the outlet is in line with Dublin Airport’s vision that every passenger is “well fed and ready for their journey”.

But it’s in the fcuking arrivals hall!!

Unless you live in the airport, you've a journey to make once you exit the arrivals hall :P

Victor

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Probably about controlling what’s sold in the unit. Spar can pretty much sell any food/grocery they want

Not quite. Many shopping centres and the like restrict what the units can sell.

Skedaddle

In Cork Airport the DAA actually saw Starbucks replaced by the very local brand, Cork Coffee Roasters. There's a big drive on there to link the airport with Cork's foodieness and that's been reflected in the duty free (the Loop) and the food court revamp.

I wonder if the DAA might do similar in Dublin and go proper foodie?

Berserker

There's a Butlers for coffee in terminal One and terminal Two already.

Cienciano wrote: »

If you think it's overpriced, don't fúcking buy it. It's as simple as that. If they charge €8 and you still buy it, Dublin Airport were dead right to raise the price.

Agree totally. Ditto for the in-flight purchase of drinks, which is ridiculously expensive. Who needs to drink wine on a Ryanair flight to Liverpool at 7am in the morning, anyway.

hynesie08 wrote: »

I've actually never been in the t2 spar, was there any truth to the rumors you could buy cans there 24/7?

Might be a loophole airside that'd allow you to do that but can't see that being allowed in the arrivals Spar.

AlanG

Pretty annoying that they are getting rid of the only grocery offering. No consideration for returning passengers who need to get milk etc. when they arrive back.

razorblunt

Skedaddle wrote: »

In Cork Airport the DAA actually saw Starbucks replaced by the very local brand, Cork Coffee Roasters. There's a big drive on there to link the airport with Cork's foodieness and that's been reflected in the duty free (the Loop) and the food court revamp.

I wonder if the DAA might do similar in Dublin and go proper foodie?

Yeah?
Well they'd wanna stock up on Tanora then in the duty free!!

I have noticed Kinsale Gin take center stage, so that explains it.

humberklog

AlanG wrote: »

Pretty annoying that they are getting rid of the only grocery offering. No consideration for returning passengers who need to get milk etc. when they arrive back.

Exactly.
Who gets a coffee at that end of an airport anyway- that's the go and get gone area. "I'll just grab a cuppa before heading for the taxi, bus, car park, car rental" ??

I live in the "Groaning Radius" for taxis- nearly too far for quick return onto top of queue, too close to make money so they're pretty unwilling to stop at the filling station for bread and milk.
That shop was a gift for late arrivals.

To the poster asking if there was a 24 hour off licence there the answer is no. They'd have the alcohol covered over after 10p.m.

Caliden

It's the Irish way of doing things: "What's the most I can charge for this?"

Skedaddle

Caliden wrote: »

It's the Irish way of doing things: "What's the most I can charge for this?"

Irish way? Isn't that the capitalist way everywhere. Price elasticity of demand! In this case, you're trapped in an airport so it's highly inelastic.

Skedaddle

razorblunt wrote: »

Yeah?
Well they'd wanna stock up on Tanora then in the duty free!!

I have noticed Kinsale Gin take center stage, so that explains it.

It's a lot more sophisticated than Tanora. The food court was relaunched as "Food Republic" with a major makeover and a focus on local ingredients and suppliers Etc etc there was also major revamp or the bar into a bistro called Craft Lane.

https://www.ittn.ie/news/new-food-republic-outlet-will-offer-special-taste-cork/

They've a concession in the Loop for the Taste Cork food producers network which works with loads of local small / artisan food brands and then you've got Cork Coffee Roasters prominently landside replacing Starbucks.

If DAA could do similar at Dublin and get a bit of the city's quirky foodie vibe into the airport it would at least make it a bit more memorable. Otherwise it could be anywhere.

Cork's basically giving you a little flavour or its food tourism offering at the airport. Maybe it would work in Dublin too?

It's the same operator at both airports DAA.