YouTube Creators - Small channels will be cut from the partner program

tedpan

As the title reads, YouTube have decided to stop monetisation for channels with less than 1000 subscribers and less than 4000 hours of views within the past 12 months.

Here's the full email.

What's Changing
Under the new eligibility requirements announced today, your YouTube channel, is no longer eligible for monetization because it doesn't meet the new threshold of 4,000 hours of watchtime within the past 12 months and 1,000 subscribers. As a result, your channel will lose access to all monetization tools and features associated with the YouTube Partner Program on February 20, 2018 unless you surpass this threshold in the next 30 days. Accordingly, this email serves as 30 days notice that your YouTube Partner Program terms are terminated.

One of YouTube's core values is to provide anyone the opportunity to earn money from a thriving channel. Creators who haven't yet reached this new threshold can continue to benefit from our Creator Academy, our Help Center, and all the resources on the Creator Site to grow their channels. Once your channel reaches the new threshold, it will be reviewed to make sure it adheres to our policies and guidelines, and if so, monetization will be re-enabled

I think is pretty annoying as lots of people are working hard to upload content and will now see no reward for their work.

I have over 10,000 hours of views but just less than 900 subscribers on my channel, so will no longer see revenue, however small it was..

Any other users disappointed and in the same boat?

wyrn

Can you buy followers for YouTube like you can for social media? I presume you can, so I'd imagine that's the route some people will take.

I think it's a real shame for genuine people such as yourself.

GingerLily

Can you work on growing your channel? You're not far off it, definitely worth giving it a go

ED E

wyrn wrote: »

Can you buy followers for YouTube like you can for social media? I presume you can, so I'd imagine that's the route some people will take.

I think it's a real shame for genuine people such as yourself.

That'd be a bad idea the way the sub box works, you'd hammer yourself in the long run.

Sabre0001

I comfortably hit the minutes watched barometer on my active account, but sub base is only 500 - niche hobby so growing could be challenging...or I could put out better content Was a bit of a kick to get the mail this morning though.

duffman3833

i got this email this morning and thinking mabey it was a spam email, would youtube really do that? They have really lost their ways from the old days. Im no where near that 1K subscribers so no motivation to upload any more. I done it as a bit of fun and get a few bob a month

baby and crumble

That's really a shame, I know there are channels I enjoy watchign videos from but I don't always subscribe... Surely the watched hours is more important that subscriber numbers?

dr.fuzzenstein

duffman3833 wrote: »

i got this email this morning and thinking mabey it was a spam email, would youtube really do that? They have really lost their ways from the old days. Im no where near that 1K subscribers so no motivation to upload any more. I done it as a bit of fun and get a few bob a month

Not a problem!
https://ytblaster.com/

wyrn

ED E wrote: »

That'd be a bad idea the way the sub box works, you'd hammer yourself in the long run.

Oops! I meant that as a rhetorical question. If one can buy followers, I can see a surge in that kind of behaviour rather than uploaders trying to grow their following organically.

the_pen_turner

Are they trying to kill you tube altogether.
It dying as it is since the last change they did.
A lit of creates have stopped . It's hot worth it

tedpan

wyrn wrote:

I think it's a real shame for genuine people such as yourself.

Cheers mate, thinking of forcing everybody in the office to subscribe

GingerLily wrote:

Can you work on growing your channel? You're not far off it, definitely worth giving it a go

Thanks, it's tough, but it has got me into idea mode

Sabre0001 wrote:

I comfortably hit the minutes watched barometer on my active account, but sub base is only 500 - niche hobby so growing could be challenging...or I could put out better content Was a bit of a kick to get the mail this morning though.

duffman3833 wrote:

i got this email this morning and thinking mabey it was a spam email, would youtube really do that? They have really lost their ways from the old days. Im no where near that 1K subscribers so no motivation to upload any more. I done it as a bit of fun and get a few bob a month

Exactly lads. A kick in the ****s, disappointing to wake up to..

baby and crumble wrote:

That's really a shame, I know there are channels I enjoy watchign videos from but I don't always subscribe... Surely the watched hours is more important that subscriber numbers?

That's what I thought. It takes years to build subscribers

dr.fuzzenstein wrote:

Not a problem!

Does that work? I can't see why they'd do it for free. What's the catch?

the_pen_turner wrote:

Are they trying to kill you tube altogether. It dying as it is since the last change they did. A lit of creates have stopped . It's hot worth it

My thoughts exactly. Restrictions and copyright have taken over. Really annoying.

Hopefully, they'll rethink things when they see a huge drop in quality uploads. My fingers are very crossed..

miamee

Any ideas what the reasons behind the move are? They are trying to get people to use Creator's Academy to build their following. Is it an attempt to imprive the content quality of what's being monetised? Or improve quality over all? I can imagine there are some really inappropriate videos that they are paying money out on - possible backlash from advertisers? Just throwing a few ideas out there, it still seems like an awful move.

duffman3833

miamee wrote: »

Any ideas what the reasons behind the move are? They are trying to get people to use Creator's Academy to build their following. Is it an attempt to imprive the content quality of what's being monetised? Or improve quality over all? I can imagine there are some really inappropriate videos that they are paying money out on - possible backlash from advertisers? Just throwing a few ideas out there, it still seems like an awful move.

check out this link to find out a bit more
Link

miamee

More or less as I thought, thanks duffman.

dr.fuzzenstein

tedpan wrote: »

Does that work? I can't see why they'd do it for free. What's the catch?

No idea I have to admit, just caught my eye. So all the usual "advise from some randomer on the internet" applies.

tedpan

dr.fuzzenstein wrote:

No idea I have to admit, just caught my eye. So all the usual "advise from some randomer on the internet" applies.

Haha! Had a look, reviews are poor. Think I'll have to harass friends and family to even get close..

tedpan

Up to 900 subs now. Think it will be next to impossible to get 100 more in a month..

heroics

tedpan wrote: »

Up to 900 subs now. Think it will be next to impossible to get 100 more in a month..

I’ll sub if you want there is 1 more 😀

tedpan

heroics wrote: »

I’ll sub if you want there is 1 more ��

Haha, if you could I'd really appreciate it! Here's a link to one of my videos

https://youtu.be/2PhfvRAGKuY

heroics

tedpan wrote: »

Haha, if you could I'd really appreciate it! Here's a link to one of my videos

https://youtu.be/2PhfvRAGKuY

Done

mugsymugsy

heroics wrote: »

Done

Up to 908 now

wyrn

tedpan wrote: »

Haha, if you could I'd really appreciate it! Here's a link to one of my videos

https://youtu.be/2PhfvRAGKuY

I've subscribed. Best of luck.

tedpan

heroics wrote:

Done

mugsymugsy wrote:

Up to 908 now

wyrn wrote:

I've subscribed. Best of luck.

Wow, that was awesome to wake up to. I'm up to 920 now. Honestly, I really appreciate it. Hopefully I can return the favour some day.

Cheers guys and happy Friday!

Squall Leonhart

Subscribed!

Just saw this thread in "latest posts", had a read, now I'm a subscriber

Good luck with it

goldenhoarde

@tedpan subscriber now

tedpan

Squall Leonhart wrote:

Just saw this thread in "latest posts", had a read, now I'm a subscriber

Squall Leonhart wrote:

Good luck with it

goldenhoarde wrote:

@tedpan subscriber now

Really appreciate it guys! Can't believe how awesome my fellow boardsies are. Thank you!

mugsymugsy

No problem. Hope all goes well with your site https://youtu.be/2PhfvRAGKuY

bloodless_coup

Maybe this is a good thing for YouTube.

Maybe it will bring it back to a time where it was about people uploading watchable content because they did it as a hobby, instead of what it turned into which is an incessant grind to churn out as much ****e as possible in an attempt to generate revenue from watchers, while also whoring oneself out to be a shill for large corporations.

tedpan

doylefe wrote:

Maybe it will bring it back to a time where it was about people uploading watchable content because they did it as a hobby, instead of what it turned into which is an incessant grind to churn out as much ****e as possible in an attempt to generate revenue from watchers, while also whoring oneself out to be a shill for large corporations.

I understand where you're coming from although I think that's what YouTube want. I upload once every week or so, YouTube will favour uploaders who post daily. At the end of the day it's a business and they want to be able to earn as much money from advertising as possible.

monaghanmissus

wyrn wrote: »

I've subscribed. Best of luck.

Just subscribed. All the best.

tedpan

monaghanmissus wrote:

Just subscribed. All the best.

Cheers! Can't believe how many boardsies have helped me out. I can't thank you enough!

tedpan

Thanks very much to everyone who's helped me out on my channel. Much closer to the 1k now If anyone wants me to help you out on YouTube, let me know!

beauf

doylefe wrote: »

Maybe this is a good thing for YouTube.

Maybe it will bring it back to a time where it was about people uploading watchable content because they did it as a hobby, instead of what it turned into which is an incessant grind to churn out as much ****e as possible in an attempt to generate revenue from watchers, while also whoring oneself out to be a shill for large corporations.

I wish I could filter out all that and just see the smaller creators that I like.

beauf

Can smaller creators not merge and share a channel?

tedpan

beauf wrote:

Can smaller creators not merge and share a channel?

I'm not sure, I know you can join and collaborate with other channels although think YouTube pays on the individual channels.

the_pen_turner

This shows how stupid this new rule is.
All the small creators that are anyway close to 1000 subs are scrambling to find ways to get to that level. They are doing it by any means they can. Beg borrow and ask strangers for subs.
In the last week I have seen loads of creators asking followers to sub to their friends channels.

Don't get me wrong most deserve it and it's great to find new creators. But it make a mockery of the new rule

tedpan

the_pen_turner wrote:

This shows how stupid this new rule is. All the small creators that are anyway close to 1000 subs are scrambling to find ways to get to that level. They are doing it by any means they can. Beg borrow and ask strangers for subs. In the last week I have seen loads of creators asking followers to sub to their friends channels.

the_pen_turner wrote:

Don't get me wrong most deserve it and it's great to find new creators. But it make a mockery of the new rule

Very true, although that wasn't the point of the thread. I wanted to discuss the new rules and some boardsies were kind enough to help me out.

duffman3833

Even tho im no longer gonna get money, i might do the odd video for the fun, im sure a lot will be in same boat. I only got into it to create and render videos as i wanted to learn, so ill keep it that way

ED E

I got partnered or something, whatever it was called years ago, but never hit the threshold for a single cheque. Still make the odd video. Not in it for cash.

If you're small enough to be below 1k chances are the payout would be less than a Dominos pizza every two months, if thats destroying your interest in then you probably aren't going anywhere anyways. Maybe thats harsh but the next Neistat will keep at the normal job until they hit the threshold.

tedpan

ED E wrote:

If you're small enough to be below 1k chances are the payout would be less than a Dominos pizza every two months, if thats destroying your interest in then you probably aren't going anywhere anyways. Maybe thats harsh but the next Neistat will keep at the normal job until they hit the threshold.

I understand what you're saying, but that's not destroying my interest. As I said in my first post, I meet the views threshold with over 50k views per month but my subs were low, so I would lose my payment every two months(however small).

Going to keep up with the channel as I really enjoy it. Cheers to everyone for helping me!

CallmeKeano

Sabre0001 wrote: »

I comfortably hit the minutes watched barometer on my active account, but sub base is only 500 - niche hobby so growing could be challenging...or I could put out better content Was a bit of a kick to get the mail this morning though.

I myself have a small channel I do however meet the requirements, I have 840k views and 2500 subs, I have taken the foot off over the last year I still hot 1k views on new uploads might take a few weeks but I seem to get there. I am still partnered ( I actually logged in earlier just to check) but I can go months without uploading. Sorry for the rant my point is this why are you upset about not being allowed to make money from your videos I make around €20 a month on a channel that gets 15,000 monthly views and is almost unused. Unless you have a hell of a lot of views coming in you cannot make decent money.

*(This is a new account only because I am on a new machine and lost my email address and boards account) I will post a screenshot of my dashboard if anyone is looking for an arguement on my stats.

GingerLily

It was probably very expensive in administration costs to distribute so many low numbers of cash to do many small channels.

CallmeKeano

GingerLily wrote: »

It was probably very expensive in administration costs to distribute so many low numbers of cash to do many small channels.

It is run by google adsence and they don't seem to have a minimum requirement for a website once it is generating clean traffic and zero copyright they are normally accepted

mudabi

tedpan wrote: »

I understand what you're saying, but that's not destroying my interest. As I said in my first post, I meet the views threshold with over 50k views per month but my subs were low, so I would lose my payment every two months(however small).

Going to keep up with the channel as I really enjoy it. Cheers to everyone for helping me!

Only 2 more to go

tedpan

CallmeKeano wrote:

I myself have a small channel I do however meet the requirements, I have 840k views and 2500 subs, I have taken the foot off over the last year I still hot 1k views on new uploads might take a few weeks but I seem to get there. I am still partnered ( I actually logged in earlier just to check) but I can go months without uploading. Sorry for the rant my point is this why are you upset about not being allowed to make money from your videos I make around €20 a month on a channel that gets 15,000 monthly views and is almost unused. Unless you have a hell of a lot of views coming in you cannot make decent money.

Yep, I get about 40-50k monthly views, just low on subs.

mudabi wrote:

Only 2 more to go

Yep, nearly there really appreciate my fellow boardsies! Anyone else need assistance, let me know!

CallmeKeano

tedpan wrote: »

Yep, I get about 40-50k monthly views, just low on subs.



Yep, nearly there really appreciate my fellow boardsies! Anyone else need assistance, let me know!

well if you want I can sub to you if you need help I'm willing.

Lenny

I subbed

tedpan

CallmeKeano wrote:

well if you want I can sub to you if you need help I'm willing.

Thanks, happy to return the favour!

Lenny wrote:

I subbed

Cheers, thanks very much!

CallmeKeano

post your channel link i will sub

tedpan

CallmeKeano wrote: »

post your channel link i will sub

https://youtu.be/WldrINKysPU

Cheers!

CallmeKeano

tedpan wrote: »

https://youtu.be/WldrINKysPU

Cheers!

I have subbed now good job 2.9 million views, really random channel (like mine) I watched your video on Jim Carey interesting stuff.