work in Australia

390kid

I have been thinkingof traveling to Australia to work for some time now. I'm just wondering is it still as good to make money in? I'd only be able to agricultural, construction and machinery work due to my experience. And also what all would I need to be able to do this tickets, money in the bank etc. Thanks.

Bobjims

390kid wrote: »

I have been thinkingof traveling to Australia to work for some time now. I'm just wondering is it still as good to make money in? I'd only be able to agricultural, construction and machinery work due to my experience. And also what all would I need to be able to do this tickets, money in the bank etc. Thanks.

Salaries in Australia are still very high. Construction work in Sydney pays well, especially if you can get a job labouring on the tunnels.

To do this, you need a visa with work rights, or an Australian passport. If you're eligible, you could apply for a 1 year working holiday visa. Once you have a visa, you can enter Australia, apply for your tax file number, set up a bank account, get a sim card, etc. etc...

Alternatively, if you have a skill on the list of skill shortages, you could apply for permanent residency independently. This is a time consuming and costly route though. I would recommend visiting Australia first to see if it is somewhere you could see yourself living permanently before trying for that type of visa.

390kid

Bobjims wrote: »

Salaries in Australia are still very high. Construction work in Sydney pays well, especially if you can get a job labouring on the tunnels.

To do this, you need a visa with work rights, or an Australian passport. If you're eligible, you could apply for a 1 year working holiday visa. Once you have a visa, you can enter Australia, apply for your tax file number, set up a bank account, get a sim card, etc. etc...

Alternatively, if you have a skill on the list of skill shortages, you could apply for permanent residency independently. This is a time consuming and costly route though. I would recommend visiting Australia first to see if it is somewhere you could see yourself living permanently before trying for that type of visa.

Cheers Bobjims. Where you over there yourself at some stage? Would it be possible to save a few pound to send back home over there?

Bobjims

390kid wrote: »

Cheers Bobjims. Where you over there yourself at some stage? Would it be possible to save a few pound to send back home over there?

I'm over here right now. I'm living in Sydney and absolutely love the place. There's so much to do at the weekends and the weather has made a huge difference to my mood. I know things can change over time with homesickness but at the moment, I can't ever see myself moving back to Ireland.

The quality of rental accommodation is much higher and the rent I'm paying is equal to what I would have to pay in Dublin for an inferior apartment with mold issues.

It's very easy to save money here. I used to live in Dublin and I've found it much easier to save money here even with the higher cost of living.

I can't speak for all Australian employers obviously, but so far, employers here have treated me much better than any Irish employer has.

aido79

Bobjims wrote: »

I'm over here right now. I'm living in Sydney and absolutely love the place. There's so much to do at the weekends and the weather has made a huge difference to my mood. I know things can change over time with homesickness but at the moment, I can't ever see myself moving back to Ireland.

The quality of rental accommodation is much higher and the rent I'm paying is equal to what I would have to pay in Dublin for an inferior apartment with mold issues.

It's very easy to save money here. I used to live in Dublin and I've found it much easier to save money here even with the higher cost of living.

I can't speak for all Australian employers obviously, but so far, employers here have treated me much better than any Irish employer has.

I would agree with all of this. The weather really does make such a difference and most people have more disposable income than would have in Ireland.
It's not the land of milk and honey that some people in Ireland believe it to be but I have definitely found it easier to save money in Australia.

Where you live will also determine how much you can earn and save. Obviously if you want to work in agriculture Sydney is not an option but for construction it is probably one of the best places in Australia to be at the minute.

On the topic of Australian employers and having recently finished up with a company where the boss was Irish try to avoid at all costs working for an Irish employer in Australia. I was advised to never work for an Irish guy in Australia before I left Ireland 10 years ago but didn't think much of it until I worked for this guy.

ChikiChiki

390kid wrote: »

I have been thinkingof traveling to Australia to work for some time now. I'm just wondering is it still as good to make money in? I'd only be able to agricultural, construction and machinery work due to my experience. And also what all would I need to be able to do this tickets, money in the bank etc. Thanks.

As someone who arrived in Australia a year ago, for me it seemed far more underdeveloped than I expected. No doubt about it, Australia continues to invest heavily in infrastructure. There is construction work at every turn in Sydney and Melbourne and the pay is absolutely savage with penalty rates included. I myself work in business but looking towards family and friends involved in construction makes me a tad jealous (in a good way) !!

In agriculture, I know lads that were working the harvest and pulling in over 40$ an hour working across West Victoria. Again there was no shortage of work and they had to travel long distances in tractors between jobs and even sleep in them some nights.

As for standard of living and to echo what others said, I saved more money here in one year than I did in all my 20s at home. You can live in a nice apartment a train stop or 2 away from the CBD for a reasonable price. And there is an endless amount of things to see and activities to do on time off.

For me I have no homesickness at all. The weather really has lifted me. A flight home is only a day away so not much in the scheme of things. I've only been here a year and just managed to get sponsored but I am certain that I want to spend another 5 years at least or maybe even more.

Best of luck with whatever you do.

Robert Power

aido79 wrote: »

Bobjims wrote: »

I'm over here right now. I'm living in Sydney and absolutely love the place. There's so much to do at the weekends and the weather has made a huge difference to my mood. I know things can change over time with homesickness but at the moment, I can't ever see myself moving back to Ireland.

The quality of rental accommodation is much higher and the rent I'm paying is equal to what I would have to pay in Dublin for an inferior apartment with mold issues.

It's very easy to save money here. I used to live in Dublin and I've found it much easier to save money here even with the higher cost of living.

I can't speak for all Australian employers obviously, but so far, employers here have treated me much better than any Irish employer has.

I would agree with all of this. The weather really does make such a difference and most people have more disposable income than would have in Ireland.
It's not the land of milk and honey that some people in Ireland believe it to be but I have definitely found it easier to save money in Australia.

Where you live will also determine how much you can earn and save. Obviously if you want to work in agriculture Sydney is not an option but for construction it is probably one of the best places in Australia to be at the minute.

On the topic of Australian employers and having recently finished up with a company where the boss was Irish try to avoid at all costs working for an Irish employer in Australia. I was advised to never work for an Irish guy in Australia before I left Ireland 10 years ago but didn't think much of it until I worked for this guy.

I can not agree with this enough regarding Irish employers

Noo

Ive never had an irish employer here but a few friends have and it was absolute nightmares for them.

Neon_Lights

in what way was it a nightmare in relation to an Irish boss out of interest? Just so I know.

I hope the OP has good luck in relation to their agricultural role, the semi skilled ones are what appear to be getting sponsored at the moment. you can make up to $1500 per week + penalty/OT/Holiday rates from what I hear.

I got extremely lucky this week, i work in IT and was struggling with SEEK and recruiters. (2 weeks would drive you spare but fairly soft compared to others). On a 417 which doesnt help. I emailed the boss in a company who specialises in the area I work in admired the audacity of contacting him directly and we metup for an interview. Fingers crossed it all goes well. Definitely a difficult market out there and a lot different to Ireland.

Neon_Lights

Pesky new boards wont allow me to edit but i got the job above!

Noo

Neon_Lights wrote: »

in what way was it a nightmare in relation to an Irish boss out of interest? Just so I know.

For my couple of friends under irish bosses it was basically working them like dogs with no regard for workers rights.

Mayo_Boy

Sorry for the thread hi-jack. Just wondering in regards to construction labour work in Oz, would it be impossible to get a job as a general labourer without experience in the construction field?

GypsyByName

Would someone with a criminal conviction who has served a prison sentence for drugs charges have any hope of getting a holiday Visa?

aido79

Neon_Lights wrote: »

in what way was it a nightmare in relation to an Irish boss out of interest? Just so I know.

In my case the boss was just a complete nazi..nothing could be done fast enough for him. I saw him treat a guy in his 40's with over 20 years experience as an electrician like an apprentice. He also threatened to "punch the head off" an apprentice for something fairly minor.

aido79

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

Sorry for the thread hi-jack. Just wondering in regards to construction labour work in Oz, would it be impossible to get a job as a general labourer without experience in the construction field?

Not impossible but think of it like this..if you can't get work in Ireland in construction you are unlikely to get work in Australia in construction. You may get lucky but you will find you have to prove yourself a lot more than someone with experience.

aido79

GypsyByName wrote: »

Would someone with a criminal conviction who has served a prison sentence for drugs charges have any hope of getting a holiday Visa?

It would be unlikely that a visa would be granted in this case. To be honest I don't even think someone with a prison conviction over 12 months can get a tourist visa for Australia.

GypsyByName

aido79 wrote: »

It would be unlikely that a visa would be granted in this case. To be honest I don't even think someone with a prison conviction over 12 months can get a tourist visa for Australia.

Ah i know a few who have just dont know how they did it

Neon_Lights

Replying to the mayo man above, all you'd need is a white card (Australian Safepass) and you should be sorted.

There definitely looking for bodies in a lot of places, so you'd more than likely get a job, experience is generally preferred but not necessary.

Mayo_Boy

Neon_Lights wrote: »

Replying to the mayo man above, all you'd need is a white card (Australian Safepass) and you should be sorted.

There definitely looking for bodies in a lot of places, so you'd more than likely get a job, experience is generally preferred but not necessary.

Im assuming the white card can be got fairly handy when over there?
Would there be much construction going on around Melbourne compared to Sydney at the moment?

390kid

aido79 wrote: »

I would agree with all of this. The weather really does make such a difference and most people have more disposable income than would have in Ireland.
It's not the land of milk and honey that some people in Ireland believe it to be but I have definitely found it easier to save money in Australia.

Where you live will also determine how much you can earn and save. Obviously if you want to work in agriculture Sydney is not an option but for construction it is probably one of the best places in Australia to be at the minute.

On the topic of Australian employers and having recently finished up with a company where the boss was Irish try to avoid at all costs working for an Irish employer in Australia. I was advised to never work for an Irish guy in Australia before I left Ireland 10 years ago but didn't think much of it until I worked for this guy.

If you don't mind me asking why never work for an Irish person? Don't have to go into detail if you don't want to

aido79

390kid wrote: »

If you don't mind me asking why never work for an Irish person? Don't have to go into detail if you don't want to

Read post #14. Even after 35 years in Australia the guy I worked for still had the Irish attitude of "fear makes people productive". It's just very different from the Australian attitude towards work which is more of a "happy worker is a more productive worker" attitude.

Neon_Lights

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

Im assuming the white card can be got fairly handy when over there?
Would there be much construction going on around Melbourne compared to Sydney at the moment?

Yeah you can do them online or in person I've seen courses for about 40 or 50 dollars so there wouldn't be much hassle in getting them.

Only properly been in Melbourne but there does seem to be a lot of ongoing work, both in residential and infrastructure projects (the city loop) project.

Noo

GypsyByName wrote: »

Ah i know a few who have just dont know how they did it

The WHV application is a simple online questionnaire. They lied when filling it in, simple.

Greengekko

Hi, Im considering going to Melbourne or sydney. I have a degree in Construction management and engineering 2 yr experience as engineer. Will I find it hard to get work or should I have something lined up before I go?

I have applied for hundreds of jobs but little luck.

Neon_Lights

Greengekko wrote: »

Hi, Im considering going to Melbourne or sydney. I have a degree in Construction management and engineering 2 yr experience as engineer. Will I find it hard to get work or should I have something lined up before I go?

I have applied for hundreds of jobs but little luck.

HR people are retarded in australia, more so than Ireland like, really ****... Best way to get a job is to build the aul network and work from there.

Greengekko

Neon_lights i will keep plugging away but networking could take a while to land something, just have a job offered here and would be kicking myself if I went abroad and end up jobless. poor me i know haha

carrollsno1

Landed from nz a little over a month ago almost broke from the **** wages and high cost of living over there and im nearly back to where i was financially leaving Ireland which wasnt anything major but fairly good for my demographic.
Im doing my regional work at the minute hours are good in excess of 60hrs a week with one day off a week i worked it back to euros it was roughly €750 a week im pulling in here and i have very little costs i.e no rent and a meal every evening too. I should be finished by the first week in June and hopefully have a nice nest egg byilt up for Sydney in between seeding and harvest time.
Im in WA most farms round here are paying $23 starting off.



Just a few questions in relation to my next area of work.
1. Can tickets be transferred between states? I.e A WA whitecard can be used in NSW?
2. Any one know anything about sugarcane harvesting in QLD eg times wages agencies etc?

rightyabe

Yeah the white card valid nationwide, might be called blue card on some job site or adverts.

Have ya any work lined up in Sydney or a place to stay there?

carrollsno1

rightyabe wrote: »

Yeah the white card valid nationwide, might be called blue card on some job site or adverts.

Have ya any work lined up in Sydney or a place to stay there?

Have good family there. Work should be no problem sorting, but i dont want outstaying my welcome in there house. So i would be looking for accomadation eventually.

carrollsno1

Can anyone help me in regards penalty rates etc for working on farms here or do they exist.
Agreed on $23/hr, casual employment term.
Worked 140hrs for my last fortnightly pay period, all my pay periods include some weekend work and i read somewhere before that there is a xap of around 150hrs a month or 38hrs a week before penalties have been introduced? Surely if it was in the city thered be penalties added for these hours if you worked them.
Thanks in advabce.

aido79

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Can anyone help me in regards penalty rates etc for working on farms here or do they exist.
Agreed on $23/hr, casual employment term.
Worked 140hrs for my last fortnightly pay period, all my pay periods include some weekend work and i read somewhere before that there is a xap of around 150hrs a month or 38hrs a week before penalties have been introduced? Surely if it was in the city thered be penalties added for these hours if you worked them.
Thanks in advabce.

Have a look through this and see if it helps:

https://www.peopleinag.com.au/farming/employers/pay-rates-awards-and-payroll/award-rates-work-agreements-and-pay-entitlements/