Hyundai Kona EV pre orders open

thelikelylad

DrPhilG wrote: »

I've done it once or twice when badly stuck for range, find a lorry or a bus doing 50mph and cruise behind them.

Would absolutely never do it by choice though.

Well you can do Donegal to Cork and back again at 44km/h now when you get the Kona

unkel

thelikelylad wrote: »

Averaging 7.8kWh/100km or ~820km implied range!

Based on the best hypermiling result, Ioniq could do 1000km with that battery :cool:

FriendsEV

DrPhilG wrote: »

I've done it once or twice when badly stuck for range, find a lorry or a bus doing 50mph and cruise behind them.

Would absolutely never do it by choice though.

Leafspeed

Do see it a bit

unkel

Top Gear review of Kona EV - score 9 out of 10

Linky


Interesting little read.

dashoonage

will it really do 300miles in real world ? thats 480km...

Silent Running

dashoonage wrote: »

will it really do 300miles in real world ? thats 480km...

Bjorn took it for a run to test range, he does this 93kph test a lot to make a fair comparison. Real world driving nonetheless. He managed 510kms.

unkel

thelikelylad wrote: »

Bjørn's currently hypermiling the Kona on a track, cruising at 44km/h.

How far did he get?

DrPhilG

I know he had 17% left after 700km.

Not sure of the final tally.

JJJJNR

Any ideas on the price of the kona ev.

unkel

I'd say about €35k for the high spec 64kWh (probably the only one we are getting) list price. On line ordering is bad news here. It means that you pay full whack (no discount) and also delivery and presumably you want metallic paint, so that could be €37k on the road.

Bif

unkel wrote: »

I'd say about €35k for the high spec 64kWh (probably the only one we are getting) list price. On line ordering is bad news here. It means that you pay full whack (no discount) and also delivery and presumably you want metallic paint, so that could be €37k on the road.

after government grants etc?

dashoonage

How does online ordering work with a trade in ?

Shefwedfan

dashoonage wrote: »

How does online ordering work with a trade in ?

In the UK version, which I didnt spend a whole pile of time on, it gave you option to fill in details....


I would guess they just offer it to trade and give you a price....don;t expect anything too hectic

yabadabado

dashoonage wrote: »

How does online ordering work with a trade in ?

Probably better off selling privately than going for a trade in.

liamog

Bjorn made it 830km in 22.5 hours. Average speed would be around 37km/h

Silent Running

liamog wrote: »

Bjorn made it 830km in 22.5 hours. Average speed would be around 37km/h

Amazing what you could do if you were stuck.

Any idea what he made in the Ioniq, or if he hypermiled it?

unkel

He didn't hypermile Ioniq. But someone got 431 km in Ioniq and had 3.5% battery left. With the 64kWh battery that would mean a range of over 1,000km

Old diesel

UK youtuber the EV Puzzle is due to get his Kona very soon.

Could be worth keeping an eye out.

He produced videos testing various EVs before deciding on the Kona.

He ordered his Kona and according to his latest video is expecting it in the next few weeks.

ei9go

See a Red Premium SE Ioniq, 2 months old on Autotrader for sale because the guy has a confirmed date for his Kona

unkel

Yep saw that, crazy stuff. I guess he can't go far wrong, he won't lose much money on the Ioniq as demand is so strong.

Shefwedfan

ei9go wrote: »

See a Red Premium SE Ioniq, 2 months old on Autotrader for sale because the guy has a confirmed date for his Kona

A fool and his money

Old diesel

Shefwedfan wrote: »

ei9go wrote: »

See a Red Premium SE Ioniq, 2 months old on Autotrader for sale because the guy has a confirmed date for his Kona

A fool and his money

It's arguable he made a mistake taking on the Ioniq if he likes long trips and a 64 kwh car on its way.

He probably thought he'd be waiting ages like he probably did for the Ioniq (if it were a car he ordered from factory).

I'm surprised how fast some of the early Kona dates were in the end given Hyundais ability (or lack off) to deliver EVs in a reasonable time up to know.

Last I heard on here - you cant even get an Ioniq ordered over here.

That's the sort of background againsed which an owner will take a decision.

Dglflyer

Any movement on Irish orders, will the initial set be on-line as in the UK, ( will tick off dealers to no end am guessing ) , or will it be through conventional channels....

DrPhilG

Hyundai have said to a few people that prices for Ireland will be confirmed by the end of the month. They have also said that they will hopefully have an online system but that hasn't been confirmed.

I contacted my local dealer and they had heard nothing, and weren't best pleased either. They were to investigate and get back to me but I haven't heard since.

thelikelylad

Kona 64kWh EPA range is official, 258miles / 415km.

Combined 120 MPGe. From what I can see only the Model 3 and Ioniq better that.

Not sure if I'm reading the data correctly but it appears the Kona is rated for 226miles/363km 'highway' range. The Ioniq is rated for 110miles/177km which seems pretty solid.

https://electrek.co/2018/08/20/hyundai-kona-electric-official-epa-range-efficiency/

FriendsEV

thelikelylad wrote: »

Kona 64kWh EPA range is official, 258miles / 415km.

Combined 120 MPGe. From what I can see only the Model 3 and Ioniq better that.

Not sure if I'm reading the data correctly but it appears the Kona is rated for 226miles/363km 'highway' range. The Ioniq is rated for 110miles/177km which seems pretty solid.

https://electrek.co/2018/08/20/hyundai-kona-electric-official-epa-range-efficiency/

Wow

More than double the range of the Ioniq on highway

Future is here

Finally

ELM327

thelikelylad wrote: »

Kona 64kWh EPA range is official, 258miles / 415km.

Combined 120 MPGe. From what I can see only the Model 3 and Ioniq better that.

Not sure if I'm reading the data correctly but it appears the Kona is rated for 226miles/363km 'highway' range. The Ioniq is rated for 110miles/177km which seems pretty solid.

https://electrek.co/2018/08/20/hyundai-kona-electric-official-epa-range-efficiency/

If the Ioniq is rated for 177 km highway, when it is easily capable of 190-210, then the kona would easily be capable of 410km range using the following calc. ((363)/(200/177))

The kona has its limitations (mainly charge speed and ground clearance) but if they can get enough of them here they will sell like wildfire. Perfect for taxis too with the grant.

unkel

ELM327 wrote: »

If the Ioniq is rated for 177 km highway, when it is easily capable of 190-210, then the kona would easily be capable of 410km range using the following calc. ((363)/(200/177))

((363)*(200/177))

ELM327

unkel wrote: »

((363)*(200/177))

Yes, easily done at 730am before coffee. :o
I worked it out correctly but wrote it down wrong, as they say in countdown I have it but it's not written down!!

Gumbo

Was in Fairview today and sales man said no Kona or ioniq until January in his opinion.

Old diesel

kceire wrote: »

Was in Fairview today and sales man said no Kona or ioniq until January in his opinion.

Did he say anything about whether he's taking Ioniq orders at all?????.

gar

Currently doing up business case for work to trial electric car for my next fleet vehicle. Hoping the range on the Kona swings it...

Gumbo

Old diesel wrote: »

Did he say anything about whether he's taking Ioniq orders at all?????.

Not specifically, but stated that there wasn’t a chance of seeing one before January. I’m sure if you pushed and said I want to order, they’ll take it no problem.

Dglflyer

deliveries starting in the UK in the next 2 -3 weeks by all accounts....

Dglflyer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx4mjO29Nis

ewj1978

Shefwedfan

Dglflyer wrote: »

deliveries starting in the UK in the next 2 -3 weeks by all accounts....

and Ireland yet to get even a price

Old diesel

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Dglflyer wrote: »

deliveries starting in the UK in the next 2 -3 weeks by all accounts....

and Ireland yet to get even a price

Could be Brexit related.

A no deal Brexit messes up bringing in cars next April.

Makes sense for Hyundai to try and get as many UK orders fulfilled prior to 29th March 2019.

You can then send more Irish cars after that on normal Korea to EU trading terms even if the UK is hard to get cars into in a bad Brexit scenario.

liamog

More likely due to waiting for 191 switchover, car sales in Ireland are very cyclical.

Shefwedfan

Old diesel wrote: »

Could be Brexit related.

A no deal Brexit messes up bringing in cars next April.

Makes sense for Hyundai to try and get as many UK orders fulfilled prior to 29th March 2019.

You can then send more Irish cars after that on normal Korea to EU trading terms even if the UK is hard to get cars into in a bad Brexit scenario.

Nothing to do with Brexit....why would Brexit affect an Irish price? we don't even trade in same currency.....

If that was the case the rest of Europe would have no pricing.....


Pics up on Kona facebook page, Hyundai garages have them in stock in UK

Water John

I presume poster is thinking in terms of RHD models for the European market.

Shefwedfan

Water John wrote: »

I presume poster is thinking in terms of RHD models for the European market.

If the UK has them sitting in their dealers I do not understand why Hyundai Ireland do not even have a price...

Not asking for a demo....but a price.....


They can't blame Euro because every other country in Europe has released pricing

Cannot place RHD because UK has them, NZ have them etc etc

eagerv

Just wondering what is the difference between Irish and UK specification cars in general. (Apart from the obvious Kms/Miles)


Because I noticed on a New Zealand video that they(New Zealand) are getting the Irish spec Kona EV.



Perhaps a reason for our slowness in pricing and availability?

liamog

Shefwedfan wrote: »

If the UK has them sitting in their dealers I do not understand why Hyundai Ireland do not even have a price...

Not asking for a demo....but a price.....


They can't blame Euro because every other country in Europe has released pricing

Cannot place RHD because UK has them, NZ have them etc etc

Maybe the guy who does pricing for 191 models only comes into work at the end of October

Old diesel

Water John wrote: »

I presume poster is thinking in terms of RHD models for the European market.

Yes exactly.

To make up a figure.

Say there is 20 k RHD cars to be built in a car factory for Europe..

To minimise the Brexit impact - you might as a manufacturer opt to make as many UK cars as possible now to get as many cars into the UK before March 29th 2019*.

Meaning Irish cars have to wait.

The Brexit impact for UK deliveries to UK market in a no deal situation include.

1) customs delays as no proper agreed treatys for normal trading into and out of the UK to all countries. Some of this delay will be caused by goods that arrived earlier

2) extra costs.

The price situation is presumably due to the cars not being due for a while.

Shefwedfan

Old diesel wrote: »

Yes exactly.

To make up a figure.

Say there is 20 k RHD cars to be built in a car factory for Europe..

To minimise the Brexit impact - you might as a manufacturer opt to make as many UK cars as possible now to get as many cars into the UK before March 29th 2019*.

Meaning Irish cars have to wait.

The Brexit impact for UK deliveries to UK market in a no deal situation include.

1) customs delays as no proper agreed treatys for normal trading into and out of the UK to all countries. Some of this delay will be caused by goods that arrived earlier

2) extra costs.

The price situation is presumably due to the cars not being due for a while.

That would make sense if they hadn't got a load of them sitting in NZ

Shefwedfan

eagerv wrote: »

Just wondering what is the difference between Irish and UK specification cars in general. (Apart from the obvious Kms/Miles)


Because I noticed on a New Zealand video that they(New Zealand) are getting the Irish spec Kona EV.



Perhaps a reason for our slowness in pricing and availability?

I would guess it is digital display so the miles/km would be a setting in the display


No idea on difference as the Irish spec hasn't been announced either :P

_dof_

liamog wrote: »

More likely due to waiting for 191 switchover, car sales in Ireland are very cyclical.

This I'd say. The UK number plates change in March and September, so it makes sense to have them available in the UK at those dates, and make sure they're available in January and July for Ireland's number plate changes.

Shefwedfan

Belgium just got pushed from September to January....this is due to sales in Netherlands....

Tick tock tick tock till we find out :-)

Looks like the smaller European countries are getting push down the time scales

unkel

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Belgium just got pushed from September to January....this is due to sales in Netherlands....

Cars sold out straight away in NL when they came up a month or two ago. Waiting list now 11 months.