Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

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GinAndBitter wrote: »

Not sure, what I do know is a lot of them speak with English accents. Make of that what you will

Innit bruv...

BBFAN

Effects wrote: »

What I've read from the mother:
"my baby boy wouldnt harm a fly the bastards dragged up ***** tat did it ill every last one of yous scumbags police me bollox ill kill them telling lies about a fight i 40 against 1 scumbags SCUM"

https://www.facebook.com/paulachristinalarkin

Child doesn't look too battered to me?? Big smile on his face???

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BBFAN wrote: »

Child doesn't look too battered to me?? Big smile on his face???

Do you think by any chance that's an old photo ?

MrFresh

not yet wrote: »

Ha Ha, Listen pal, I'm from the inner city and have lived in a lot of working class areas, so don't try lecture me on Ballyfermot or Finglas..

You have whatever agenda suits your narrative, I'm not reading anymore of your bullsh1t.

If you think youths traveling around in gangs is not something that white youths have been doing for a long time then you either have no knowledge of those areas or you are lying.

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Not sure, what I do know is a lot of them speak with English accents. Make of that what you will

So why call them African?

GinAndBitter

MrFresh wrote: »

If you think youths traveling around in gangs is not something that white youths have been doing for a long time then you either have no knowledge of those areas or you are lying.






So why call them African?

Sorry, they are Africans trying to be English gangsters.

MrFresh

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Sorry, they are Africans trying to be English gangsters.

They are Africans trying to be English in Ireland? But they could be Irish, you don't really know.

Quandary

spurious wrote: »

The problem is parenting.

Whether the little sh1ts are African, Irish, Polish or whatever. Lazy parents will not know or care where their darlings are. Will not ask any questions when they come home with money or a new (or different) phone, bicycle, jacket, set of trainers.

It's nothing new. Ask any shop owner in Dublin city about gangs (or groups of young lads, if 'gangs' sounds too alarmist) coming in and clearing them out. That's gangs of non-Africans, for years, nothing new.

Until there is some incentive (or disincentive) for people to adjust their parenting style, it will go on.

I wish I could thank this post twice. The parents need to be held accountable legally and financially for the behaviour while their child is up to a certain age. I am currently teaching in a disadvantaged school and one of our 6th class pupils delivers drugs by bicycle regularly in and around the area. The Gardai have caught him multiple times but nothing is being done because he is too young to prosecute. Tusla have been working with the family in question for over 3 years and the situation has just gotten worse, not better. Our principal has mountains of paper work, liaising with the local community Gaurd, social worker, various tusla staff but nothing has worked because his parents are complete scumbags who do not give a sh1t.

I won't go on because this is really a topic for a tangential thread but lack of parental accountability is a colossal problem in allowing serious juvenile crime to continue to run rife in this country.

Dante7

GinAndBitter wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/extra.ie/2019/03/14/news/irish-news/car-wash-war-tallaght/amp

Looks like those who carried out the attack on the African man in Tallaght are eastern Europeans.

That's the last we will hear about that so.

pablo128

Dante7 wrote: »

That's the last we will hear about that so.

The odd thing is that he claimed it was a racist attack according to a media interview he gave.

Though it's quite possible a journalist wrote it for him. I've seen that happen before.

GinAndBitter

Dante7 wrote: »

That's the last we will hear about that so.

You were spot on anyway the other day about this. This fella is obviously lying through is teeth.

leestone

It’s black gangs African gangs not Irish not Eastern Europe you see them anywhere from Balbriggan to Dundalk especially going around in huge crowds terrorizing people not once did I see in my lifetime any other ethic group doing this as regularly and I have worked in every part of the country.

MrFresh

leestone wrote: »

It’s black gangs African gangs not Irish not Eastern Europe you see them anywhere from Balbriggan to Dundalk

What? Is there some punctuation missing there? What's the colour of their skin got to do with it?

leestone wrote: »

especially going around in huge crowds terrorizing people not once did I see in my lifetime any other ethic group doing this as regularly and I have worked in every part of the country.

Sheriff Street, Finglas, Blanchardstown, Ronanstown, Clondalkin, Ballyfermot, Drimnagh, Killinarden, Jobstwon. All have issues with gangs of youths and have done for decades. No indication they are anything but Irish.

daveville30

Gangs in these areas are 5 or 6 lads not 20. mugging people the people of balbriggan had a protest outside the garda station about these African gangs has this been the case with young polish or even irish no because they don't behave like a pack of wild dogs

pablo128

MrFresh wrote: »

What? Is there some punctuation missing there? What's the colour of their skin got to do with it?






Sheriff Street, Finglas, Blanchardstown, Ronanstown, Clondalkin, Ballyfermot, Drimnagh, Killinarden, Jobstwon. All have issues with gangs of youths and have done for decades. No indication they are anything but Irish.

Can you provide an example of 40+ Irish youths roaming around Dublin randomly attacking men, women and children?

In your own time please.

MrFresh

daveville30 wrote: »

Gangs in these areas are 5 or 6 lads not 20. mugging people

What fantasy land are you living in?

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leestone wrote: »

It’s black gangs African gangs not Irish not Eastern Europe you see them anywhere from Balbriggan to Dundalk especially going around in huge crowds terrorizing people not once did I see in my lifetime any other ethic group doing this as regularly and I have worked in every part of the country.

No, No, you are wrong, you have to be wrong. Either that, or you're lying..

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daveville30 wrote: »

Gangs in these areas are 5 or 6 lads not 20. mugging people the people of balbriggan had a protest outside the garda station about these African gangs has this been the case with young polish or even irish no because they don't behave like a pack of wild dogs

No, No, you are wrong, Irish gangs travel in huge numbers to attack and terrorise local people. So why are you picking on Young black youths..

MrFresh

pablo128 wrote: »

Can you provide an example of 40+ Irish youths roaming around Dublin randomly attacking men, women and children?

In your own time please.

Are ye really doubling down on this nonsense?



http://www.echo.ie/ballyfermot/article/gangs-of-youths-causing-an-epidemic-of-burnt-out-cars


https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/shocking-video-footage-shows-gang-of-up-to-30-youths-vandalising-cars-in-dublin-city-centre-36192261.html


https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/up-50-youths-launch-unprovoked-15617425


https://www.thejournal.ie/gardai-cherry-orchard-1802987-Nov2014/

Dante7

GinAndBitter wrote: »

You were spot on anyway the other day about this. This fella is obviously lying through is teeth.

Yep. You could spot that there was something not right there. I think I called nonsense when he said he was called a monkey.
Now that we know that this wasn't just some random racist attack, it would be interesting to see if there were other attacks in the area about these car wash wars. Was this victim involved in other attacks in this "war"?
We'll never know. Once it is minorities misbehaving the press don't really report it.

pablo128

MrFresh wrote: »

Are ye really doubling down on this nonsense?



http://www.echo.ie/ballyfermot/article/gangs-of-youths-causing-an-epidemic-of-burnt-out-cars


https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/shocking-video-footage-shows-gang-of-up-to-30-youths-vandalising-cars-in-dublin-city-centre-36192261.html


https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/up-50-youths-launch-unprovoked-15617425


https://www.thejournal.ie/gardai-cherry-orchard-1802987-Nov2014/

Your 3rd link was a black Tallaght gang. The others don't show gangs roaming around attacking men,women and children.

Have another go there.

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pablo128 wrote: »

Your 3rd link was a black Tallaght gang. The others don't show gangs roaming around attacking men,women and children.

Have another go there.

Jaysus, how many time do you need to be told...

There are no black youths going from suburb to suburb attacking people, it's all in your head, and if it's not you should just ignore it, it'll go away on it's own..

MrFresh

pablo128 wrote: »

Your 3rd link was a black Tallaght gang. The others don't show gangs roaming around attacking men,women and children.

Have another go there.

There's a video that shows a white guy breaking the bus window.


I think my links show that feral youth issues transcend nationality and race. They're just the ones that came to my mind. I'm sure a Google search will give you more.

pablo128

MrFresh wrote: »

There's a video that shows a white guy breaking the bus window.


I think my links show that feral youth issues transcend nationality and race. They're just the ones that came to my mind. I'm sure a Google search will give you more.

Thanks. Thanks for admitting you have no links or evidence to show anyone other than gangs of African origin carrying out these attacks.

Would you like to tell everyone why you are trying to deflect from these attacks, instead of discussing them on a thread set up to discuss them?

MrFresh

pablo128 wrote: »

Thanks. Thanks for admitting you have no links or evidence to show anyone other than gangs of African origin carrying out these attacks.

Would you like to tell everyone why you are trying to deflect from these attacks, instead of discussing them on a thread set up to discuss them?

Because I don't believe in allowing ignorant racism to go unchallenged.


I've shown you four incidents of Irish gangs causing havoc, damaging property and attacking people. It's not a new thing. People who live in the areas I mentioned will all have experienced the issue. You can choose to believe it's only black (or "African") youths who engage in that behaviour but you're only fooling yourself and using it to justify your racism.

Tell me how

not yet wrote: »

It hasn't 'morphed' into anything, The facts are the following..

Young black youths are causing havoc in multiple areas, this issue is getting worse, as seen in Ashbourne. MSM are not reporting these issues for whatever reason. I live in one of these areas, and can tell you as fact, people are extremely worried where this will lead in years to come.

People are entitled to discuss these issues on an open, public forum.

Every Friday Ciara Kelly has an anything goes show on Newstalk from 12:00 to 14:00. You can text/email etc anytime during the week for a topic which you think needs to be discussed.

Every day, Joe Duffy does the same thing.

Have you tried both these avenues and been refused as to having this discussed?

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Tell me how wrote: »

Every Friday Ciara Kelly has an anything goes show on Newstalk from 12:00 to 14:00. You can text/email etc anytime during the week for a topic which you think needs to be discussed.

Every day, Joe Duffy does the same thing.

Have you tried both these avenues and been refused as to having this discussed?

Oh right, thanks for that..

pablo128

MrFresh wrote: »

Because I don't believe in allowing ignorant racism to go unchallenged.


I've shown you four incidents of Irish gangs causing havoc, damaging property and attacking people. It's not a new thing. People who live in the areas I mentioned will all have experienced the issue. You can choose to believe it's only black (or "African") youths who engage in that behaviour but you're only fooling yourself and using it to justify your racism.

I lived in Cherry Orchard until I was.8, Quarryvale until I was 30 and Tallaght for the last 13 years, 9 of those years in Fettercairn. Don't try to talk down to me.

Dante7

Ok, so the Nigerian lad getting a hiding from Eastern Europeans was part of a turf war about the semi legal car wash business in Dublin.

Nothing to see here so.

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pablo128 wrote: »

I lived in Cherry Orchard until I was.8, Quarryvale until I was 30 and Tallaght for the last 13 years, 9 of those years in Fettercairn. Don't try to talk down to me.

He has a habit of doing that, but then again what do we know..

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Dante7 wrote: »

Ok, so the Nigerian lad getting a hiding from Eastern Europeans was part of a turf war about the semi legal car wash business in Dublin.

Nothing to see here so.

He'll be along to to tell you either...

A: You are a liar

B: You don't know what your talking about

C: Some other bullsh1t

Suckit

John Smi twitter back open for non twitterazzi.

septictank

Suckit wrote: »

John Smi twitter back open for non twitterazzi.

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Kermit.de.frog

...

yoke

you obviously don't remember "the cruise" on sunday nights in Ballyfermot, literally every sunday starting at 10pm racing cars with huge crowds until the cops broke it up usually an hour later.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar5btva0eBI


Loads of bottles thrown around the streets every week after it was broken up too, as crowds walked home. The only difference was that it wasn't foreigners... hence no outrage

Tell me how

not yet wrote: »

Oh right, thanks for that..

No you are right, don't do that, just continue to complain that the Irish Media (one publication of which called the perpetrator of the attack in Christchurch an angelic child on their first front page reaction piece to the attack) is ignoring apparent rampant race aligned gang warfare within Dublin.

Squatter

MrFresh wrote: »

Because I don't believe in allowing ignorant racism to go unchallenged.

So where do you stand on informed racism?

listermint

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Ireland's future?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3wgqh3i1AI

I don't see how it goes any other way. We have not learned a single thing from our neighbors who offered advanced warning (not intentionally).

Sorry but that video is utter bull****. I'm not surprised the likes of yourself swallows that sort of propaganda as you have form for searching out videos that confirm your bias.

And the audio only part was the most hilarious part, he got no video... Ask me arse will ya. Entirely manufactured incident

And the police closing down a station because it was too dangerous, how do you swallow this stuff .

Mouth wide open I'd assume

spurious

The mentalness has taken over this thread.

GinAndBitter

MrFresh wrote: »

They are Africans trying to be English in Ireland? But they could be Irish, you don't really know.

Who knows what nationality they are, I don't think they know themselves, which could be one of the reasons as to why the are acting they way they do.

newcavanman

Tell me how wrote: »

Every Friday Ciara Kelly has an anything goes show on Newstalk from 12:00 to 14:00. You can text/email etc anytime during the week for a topic which you think needs to be discussed.

Every day, Joe Duffy does the same thing.

Have you tried both these avenues and been refused as to having this discussed?

Both of these programmes only ever discuss the topics that suit them. Like all mainstream media in Ireland, any discussion which may suggest that their is a problem with gangs of youths, particularly black youths, is apparently too hot to handle

Tell me how

newcavanman wrote: »

Both of these programmes only ever discuss the topics that suit them. Like all mainstream media in Ireland, any discussion which may suggest that their is a problem with gangs of youths, particularly black youths, is apparently too hot to handle

So, what you are saying is that you haven't tried to get them to discuss this actual topic?

Maybe that means it is too hot for you to handle as well.

givyjoe

Tell me how wrote: »

So, what you are saying is that you haven't tried to get them to discuss this actual topic?

Maybe that means it is too hot for you to handle as well.

Yeah, I'd say Ciara will be all over it.. just like she's all over widespread criminality from the traveling community. Honestly, we get enough of the Ciara Kelly fan club on the Ck thread.

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givyjoe wrote: »

Yeah, I'd say Ciara will be all over it.. just like she's all over widespread criminality from the traveling community. Honestly, we get enough of the Ciara Kelly fan club on the Ck thread.

So you haven't tried to get it discussed either.

givyjoe

Tell me how wrote: »

So you haven't tried to get it discussed either.

Tell you what.. you text her In there next Friday, perhaps give her some of the links to this story.. prove us all wrong that she would give two fcuks and actually discuss it.

I'm not one of the ck fan club, so I'm personally not interested in what she has to say on this, or any other topic.

GinAndBitter

givyjoe wrote: »

Tell you what.. you text her In there next Friday, perhaps give her some of the links to this story.. prove us all wrong that she would give two fcuks and actually discuss it.

I'm not one of the ck fan club, so I'm personally not interested in what she has to say on this, or any other topic.

Is this really what we've came to in Ireland? Having to text in to a radio show that most people have never heard of to get some coverage for an issue that should already be widely covered in the media.

Tell me how

givyjoe wrote: »

Tell you what.. you text her In there next Friday, perhaps give her some of the links to this story.. prove us all wrong that she would give two fcuks and actually discuss it.

I'm not one of the ck fan club, so I'm personally not interested in what she has to say on this, or any other topic.

Ok, you want me to take up this story for you as you couldn't be bothered? And you are not interested in having it discussed on national radio but will continue to complain that it is not being covered by the media.

Do you expect to be taken seriously?

givyjoe

Tell me how wrote: »

Ok, you want me to take up this story for you as you couldn't be bothered? And you are not interested in having it discussed on national radio but will continue to complain that it is not being covered by the media.

Do you expect to be taken seriously?

Can you not read? I don't care what CK thinks about it. Odd that you think that somehow equates to not caring. Where did you see ME complaining about it not being covered on national radio?

As for being taken seriously, give me a break. Your idol is Ciara Kelly for Christ sake.

So, like I said. Prove us wrong there and text in ck and see if she discusses it.

Tell me how

givyjoe wrote: »

Can you not read? I don't care what CK thinks about it. Odd that you think that somehow equates to not caring. Where did you see ME complaining about it not being covered on national radio?

As for being taken seriously, give me a break. Your idol is Ciara Kelly for Christ sake.

So, like I said. Prove us wrong there and text in ck and see if she discusses it.

It's like talking to an 8 year old.....

You have a problem with this not being discussed on national media but apparently will not try to get the national media to discuss it.

Also, the jokes about me being a fan of Ciara are laughable, but not in the way you think. If you don't care what she says, don't listen to the show then what are you doing in the Ciara Kelly show thread?

I also mentioned Joe Duffy, call in there if you have a problem with Ciara.

givyjoe

Tell me how wrote: »

It's like talking to an 8 year old.....

You have a problem with this not being discussed on national media but apparently will not try to get the national media to discuss it.

Also, the jokes about me being a fan of Ciara are laughable, but not in the way you think. If you don't care what she says, don't listen to the show then what are you doing in the Ciara Kelly show thread?

I also mentioned Joe Duffy, call in there if you have a problem with Ciara.

Is there something wrong with your reading comprehension..?! Define.. problem with it?! You seem to be confusing me with someone else.

Are you just here to promote the ck show, or do you actually give a **** about these animals nearing killing an innocent young lad?

1641

Tell me how wrote: »

It's like talking to an 8 year old.....

You have a problem with this not being discussed on national media but apparently will not try to get the national media to discuss it.

Also, the jokes about me being a fan of Ciara are laughable, but not in the way you think. If you don't care what she says, don't listen to the show then what are you doing in the Ciara Kelly show thread?

I also mentioned Joe Duffy, call in there if you have a problem with Ciara.

Maybe it would be better to throw up some links. Some folks here might prefer to email in their "manifestos" when ready.