Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

rondog

https://www.thesun.ie/news/2167049/hutch-gang-vows-to-take-down-daniel-cancer-kinahan-by-driving-wedge-between-mob-boss-and-brother-christopher-as-social-media-war-launched/
I know its the Sun but if theres any truth behind it it will be interesting to see the Hutches take on the Kinahans with Cyber warfare :-).
I don't think appealing to the hearts of anyone on the Kinahan side will work.Most criminals are motivated by greed and money not morals.
Christy Junior was always a shy retiring lad.From what I knew of him years ago all this crime and violence wouldn't be natural to him.Apart from being a fair bit slower than Daniel he was never going to be the leader in the Cartel.I can imagine him breaking down though under the stress of the Feud.Think that's why the writer of the tweets is appealing to him

Gadgetman496

If I remember correctly, the Garda picked up either the Kinahan's or associates of the Kinahan's at Dublin Airport and gave them an armed escort to a safe house while they were here to attend the funeral of David Byrne following the Regency Hotel attack.

I don't recall seeing any such VIP treatment for the Monk when he came back to attend the funeral of his brother Eddie Hutch?

One could be forgiven for thinking that even the law of the land are taking sides in this feud.

ohnonotgmail

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

If I remember correctly, the Garda picked up either the Kinahan's or associates of the Kinahan's at Dublin Airport and gave them an armed escort to a safe house while they were here to attend the funeral of David Byrne following the Regency Hotel attack.

I don't recall seeing any such VIP treatment for the Monk when he came back to attend the funeral of his brother Eddie Hutch?

One could be forgiven for thinking that even the law of the land are taking sides in this feud.

Armed escort or "lets tail these guys because there could be trouble"?

Gadgetman496

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Armed escort or "lets tail these guys because there could be trouble"?

That would apply to both sides surely?

begbysback

rondog wrote: »

https://www.thesun.ie/news/2167049/hutch-gang-vows-to-take-down-daniel-cancer-kinahan-by-driving-wedge-between-mob-boss-and-brother-christopher-as-social-media-war-launched/
I know its the Sun but if theres any truth behind it it will be interesting to see the Hutches take on the Kinahans with Cyber warfare :-).
I don't think appealing to the hearts of anyone on the Kinahan side will work.Most criminals are motivated by greed and money not morals.
Christy Junior was always a shy retiring lad.From what I knew of him years ago all this crime and violence wouldn't be natural to him.Apart from being a fair bit slower than Daniel he was never going to be the leader in the Cartel.I can imagine him breaking down though under the stress of the Feud.Think that's why the writer of the tweets is appealing to him

Very interesting development - what's the twitter account ?

ohnonotgmail

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

That would apply to both sides surely?

it certainly would. Were the gardai aware what flight the monk returned on ?

Gadgetman496

A little background into this feud

https://soundcloud.com/thestandwitheamondunphy/ep-122-the-dapper-don-is-finished

thebull85

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

it certainly would. Were the gardai aware what flight the monk returned on ?

check out regency cover up on twitter if you want a laugh, some disturbed oulwan thinking the kinhans are after her. Thats where the sun got this garbage.

rondog

begbysback wrote: »

rondog wrote: »

https://www.thesun.ie/news/2167049/hutch-gang-vows-to-take-down-daniel-cancer-kinahan-by-driving-wedge-between-mob-boss-and-brother-christopher-as-social-media-war-launched/
I know its the Sun but if theres any truth behind it it will be interesting to see the Hutches take on the Kinahans with Cyber warfare :-).
I don't think appealing to the hearts of anyone on the Kinahan side will work.Most criminals are motivated by greed and money not morals.
Christy Junior was always a shy retiring lad.From what I knew of him years ago all this crime and violence wouldn't be natural to him.Apart from being a fair bit slower than Daniel he was never going to be the leader in the Cartel.I can imagine him breaking down though under the stress of the Feud.Think that's why the writer of the tweets is appealing to him

Very interesting development - what's the twitter account ?

It was on Daniel Kinahans Twitter account but DKs account has since been deleted.Seems it rumbled DK a bit.

ohnonotgmail

thebull85 wrote: »

check out regency cover up on twitter if you want a laugh, some disturbed oulwan thinking the kinhans are after her. Thats where the sun got this garbage.

I'll pass.

thebull85

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

If I remember correctly, the Garda picked up either the Kinahan's or associates of the Kinahan's at Dublin Airport and gave them an armed escort to a safe house while they were here to attend the funeral of David Byrne following the Regency Hotel attack.

I don't recall seeing any such VIP treatment for the Monk when he came back to attend the funeral of his brother Eddie Hutch?

One could be forgiven for thinking that even the law of the land are taking sides in this feud.

The Monk came in via belfast thats why.

ballsdeep69

splinter65 wrote: »

Don’t pay any attention sheriff. Some posters have nothing whatsoever to offer on any thread except to moan and whine about it, critise other posts, bitch about other posters. Nothing interesting to say themselves, just going around putting other people down.
Forum life is the same as real life.

Preach it brother ðŸ™ðŸ™ðŸ™

Captain Obvious

Seems Gemma O'Doherty is on the case

https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/962992111858651137

Garda hack Paul Williams had a close relationship with gangland detective Colm Fox. Det Supt Fox was at the peak of his career when he allegedly took his own life in Ballymun Station this weekend

In poor taste I think myself. Some of her followers have it down as a murder.

Timmyr

rondog wrote: »

It was on Daniel Kinahans Twitter account but DKs account has since been deleted.Seems it rumbled DK a bit.

This is the twitter account the Sun was talking about https://twitter.com/Johnsmi84534254

But seems to have been stopped in his tracks https://twitter.com/Catmac79756484

And this is the account mentioned by a poster above, claims to be an "ex-lover" of some gangland figures, she names them but I will keep the names off boards... Can anybody shed some light on who "frank" is? most of her tweets relate to him https://twitter.com/Regencycoverup


There is some pretty interesting posts from these guys, and they have tagged the accounts of certain people supposedly involved

SEPT 23 1989

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Seems Gemma O'Doherty is on the case

https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/962992111858651137



In poor taste I think myself. Some of her followers have it down as a murder.

it would rock the foundation of the state if it was murder

I can’t see the woman’s tweets

thebull85

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I can’t see the woman’s tweets

follow her, she will accept.

Boom_Bap

Deleted the posts that are probably best suited to a red top gossip column

thebull85

Timmyr wrote: »

This is the twitter account the Sun was talking about https://twitter.com/Johnsmi84534254

But seems to have been stopped in his tracks https://twitter.com/Catmac79756484

And this is the account mentioned by a poster above, claims to be an "ex-lover" of some gangland figures, she names them but I will keep the names off boards... Can anybody shed some light on who "frank" is? most of her tweets relate to him https://twitter.com/Regencycoverup


There is some pretty interesting posts from these guys, and they have tagged the accounts of certain people supposedly involved

I was following that page for a while, that woman has obvious mental health issues. Replying to her own tweets off different accounts and the like. id say its all her imagination

hatrickpatrick

In a development which will come as a surprise to nobody, it would now appear that the new CEO of MTK, who appeared on camera last week decrying the Irish media's 'unfair' coverage of MTK given that it is under entirely new management, has actually been involved with the company for years and has also been an acquaintance of Daniel Kinahan himself for a long time. Apparently her ex husband was actually a victim of a gangland abduction at some point years back, and she now has a different surname which is why nobody could find anything on her claimed business expertise when Googling her.

https://twitter.com/Healyhack/status/962724795006799873

It's a Sun article and the guy who tweeted it is a Daily Star journalist so obviously take with a whole haep of salt, but puts an interesting perspective on the "we have no further business ties and are under entirely new management" stuff last week. Might make it fairly difficult to maintain the "unfair media" stuff, which IMO was an absolutely massive miscalculation in terms of PR. They were better off not commenting on it at all, anything they said was realistically guaranteed to just ignite further curiosity and rumours than actually convince everyone that they're the victims of a smear campaign.

ohnonotgmail

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

In a development which will come as a surprise to nobody, it would now appear that the new CEO of MTK, who appeared on camera last week decrying the Irish media's 'unfair' coverage of MTK given that it is under entirely new management, has actually been involved with the company for years and has also been an acquaintance of Daniel Kinahan himself for a long time. Apparently her ex husband was actually a victim of a gangland abduction at some point years back, and she now has a different surname which is why nobody could find anything on her claimed business expertise when Googling her.

https://twitter.com/Healyhack/status/962724795006799873

It's a Sun article and the guy who tweeted it is a Daily Star journalist so obviously take with a whole haep of salt, but puts an interesting perspective on the "we have no further business ties and are under entirely new management" stuff last week. Might make it fairly difficult to maintain the "unfair media" stuff, which IMO was an absolutely massive miscalculation in terms of PR. They were better off not commenting on it at all, anything they said was realistically guaranteed to just ignite further curiosity and rumours than actually convince everyone that they're the victims of a smear campaign.

was it not a sunday world article? I'm pretty sure i read that in the sunday world. You can even see the sunday world logo in the top left. I definitely didnt read it in that rag The Sun.

redbuck

The brother of the Irish soccer start is in trouble again for an arson attack again according to the Herald this morning.

White lighting

redbuck wrote: »

The brother of the Irish soccer start is in trouble again for an arson attack again according to the Herald this morning.

Heard it was himself and Dunphy after Richie Sadlier over his comments

White lighting

redbuck wrote: »

The brother of the Irish soccer start is in trouble again for an arson attack again according to the Herald this morning.

Heard it was himself and Dunphy after Richie Sadlier over his comments

hatrickpatrick

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

was it not a sunday world article? I'm pretty sure i read that in the sunday world. You can even see the sunday world logo in the top left. I definitely didnt read it in that rag The Sun.

My bad, had it in my head that it was indeed The Sun but you're absolutely right. Is it just me, or does the Sunday World tend to have a decent level of insight into these gangland stories? I'd assign more credibility to them than most red tops, tbh

ohnonotgmail

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

My bad, had it in my head that it was indeed The Sun but you're absolutely right. Is it just me, or does the Sunday World tend to have a decent level of insight into these gangland stories? I'd assign more credibility to them than most red tops, tbh

well its where i get all my info from. Good job on them figuring out who the new head of MTK is. It was definitely not as MTK tried to present it.

Trebhygt

SpecialProjects Team@SSSLtd_SPT

Timmyr

Trebhygt wrote: »

SpecialProjects Team@SSSLtd_SPT

Whats this about?

SSS Ltd is a security services company in Belize and they are tweeting things like this.....

STOP #KINAHAN #Cartel from influencing #Boxing! The Kinahan family are scum. They will soon get what's coming to them...

I got all that from google. I know nuttin.

Thesomersarms

Just had a look at that twitter handle, bizarre to say the least, same tweets over and over and my ass it’s a global security service, sounds more like someone tweeting from their bedroom in Dublin

Timmyr

Thesomersarms wrote: »

Just had a look at that twitter handle, bizarre to say the least, same tweets over and over and my ass it’s a global security service, sounds more like someone tweeting from their bedroom in Dublin

Its a strange one, they have a pretty legit looking website, which has nothing linking the company to Dublin
http://www.specialist-securityservices.com/

thebull85

Bizarre... https://twitter.com/Truth3004/status/963542580007972864?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E1

Thesomersarms

Timmyr wrote: »

Its a strange one, they have a pretty legit looking website, which has nothing linking the company to Dublin
http://www.specialist-securityservices.com/

Yeah it’s odd indeed but if the Twitter account was from a legitimate business they would NOT be tweeting that stuff over and over they would be tweeting about their business, tweeting that would not attract new clients! It’s someone with a grudge, a solo person I would say.

Thesomersarms

thebull85 wrote: »

Bizarre... https://twitter.com/Truth3004/status/963542580007972864?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E1

Wtf!

thebull85

Thesomersarms wrote: »

Wtf!

Some mad thing trying to put the ****s up them, more of these type of accounts have popped up since the article in the paper.

I have no idea what’s going on

Timmyr

Thesomersarms wrote: »

Wtf!

She also claims the Regency was a joint Kinahan/Hutch effort to take out the byrnes...

freshpopcorn

Thread is starting to go off topic and around in circles.
Thread will be reopened if their is any update.

septictank

Looks like some serious talent is being used to do the hits now.

https://www.herald.ie/news/four-arrests-as-plot-to-murder-monk-brother-foiled-by-gardai-36694135.html

Lucky these lads were caught.

Gadgetman496

Man charged with murder of Vincent Ryan in Dublin

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2018/0312/946904-vincent-ryan-court/

freshpopcorn

I was asked to re-open the thread.
Ye know ye're selves try and keep it on topic and behave.

hatrickpatrick

One has to wonder are any of these gangs able to actually get their "work" done anymore as far as actual drug distribution, when half of them can't even leave their bolt holes for fear of being assassinated.

These ongoing wars must be seriously bad for business. Like, who's going to agree to work for the Kinahans as a local pusher or enforcer when they know that any association, however low level, puts a massive target on their back?

I honestly wonder if anyone at the top regrets embarking on this revenge rampage after the Regency. I'm sure the Hutch crew regrets that raid or at least that they didn't manage to get their target, given how many people they've lost ever since - but surely the Kinahans have suffered heavy losses as well, both in terms of the law enforcement crackdown and what must surely be a chilling effect in terms of putting people off doing business with them and getting mixed up in this?

North inner city hoodlum

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Man charged with murder of Vincent Ryan in Dublin

Another guy arrest in the UK. Press conference today had a NCA member present today.

These guys are pawns, who must owe serious money, trying to lure patsy out by smashing up ex mtk(scumbags and any boxer associated with them now, blood money) boxer. Not professionals but coked up buffoons enjoy ten to life.

thebull85

septictank wrote: »

Looks like some serious talent is being used to do the hits now.

https://www.herald.ie/news/four-arrests-as-plot-to-murder-monk-brother-foiled-by-gardai-36694135.html

Lucky these lads were caught.

Them boys got ratted on.

Joeseph Balls

North inner city hoodlum wrote: »

Another guy arrest in the UK. Press conference today had a NCA member present today.

These guys are pawns, who must owe serious money, trying to lure patsy out by smashing up ex mtk(scumbags and any boxer associated with them now, blood money) boxer. Not professionals but coked up buffoons enjoy ten to life.

They bet up an ex mtk boxers outside his house? That was the disturbance they created?

North inner city hoodlum

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

They bet up an ex mtk boxers outside his house? That was the disturbance they created?

Apologise I left out a word, his house they smashed up, this was suppose to be a double hit, why get the pride slashed twice and smash up his house? ( just a question not directed to you) the van was on real plates and the stolen Audi.

Joeseph Balls

North inner city hoodlum wrote: »

Apologise I left out a word, his house they smashed up, this was suppose to be a double hit, why get the pride slashed twice and smash up his house? ( just a question not directed to you) the van was on real plates and the stolen Audi.

Funny they were on real plates. Surely anpr would have flagged the plates if they came across them. You'd think they would have cloned them from the same type of vehicle

North inner city hoodlum

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

Funny they were on real plates. Surely anpr would have flagged the plates if they came across them. You'd think they would have cloned them from the same type of vehicle

I need a new phone,

The Audi was apperantly stolen and had a 141 T plate cloned from a real one is why the plate was blocked, and the ford connect was a real plate and wasn't blocked on videos.

About anpr is it full rolled out across AGS the last i knew it was only a small number of cars in each division had anpr, has Dublin smart camaras with anpr programmed in to them like UCD cameras?

Joeseph Balls

North inner city hoodlum wrote: »

I need a new phone,

The Audi was apperantly stolen and had a 141 T plate cloned from a real one is why the plate was blocked, and the ford connect was a real plate and wasn't blocked on videos.

About anpr is it full rolled out across AGS the last i knew it was only a small number of cars in each division had anpr, has Dublin smart camaras with anpr programmed in to them like UCD cameras?

No, far from fully rolled out last I heard. Mostly in cities and larger towns. I would presume they would have a few patrolling that area though. Is there anywhere to find out how many were fitted with it? I read somewhere some models of the Hyundais are incompatible with it.
Re the smart cameras, havnt a clue.

thebull85

North inner city hoodlum wrote: »

Apologise I left out a word, his house they smashed up, this was suppose to be a double hit, why get the pride slashed twice and smash up his house? ( just a question not directed to you) the van was on real plates and the stolen Audi.

They really have it in for fitzy for some reason.