Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

hatrickpatrick

When is the Patrick Hutch trial due back in the Special Criminal Court? Reports when it was last adjourned said it'd be back for mention by October 8th but no news about it over the last week - presume it's been delayed again and thus the investigation into Spt. Fox has not been concluded, but does anyone know when it's next scheduled for mention?

Criminal informer

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

When is the Patrick Hutch trial due back in the Special Criminal Court? Reports when it was last adjourned said it'd be back for mention by October 8th but no news about it over the last week - presume it's been delayed again and thus the investigation into Spt. Fox has not been concluded, but does anyone know when it's next scheduled for mention?

Media blackout on the orders of gardai. Last in the press was 3 September for mention on the 8 October, nothing since.

hatrickpatrick

Criminal informer wrote: »

Media blackout on the orders of gardai. Last in the press was 3 September for mention on the 8 October, nothing since.

Have you a source for this? Seems unlikely that the media would oblige, especially given that there are allegations of potential Garda wrongdoing here... Does this mean the case gets buried and we never find out what's been going on that's caused so much internal controversy?

Criminal informer

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Have you a source for this? Seems unlikely that the media would oblige, especially given that there are allegations of potential Garda wrongdoing here... Does this mean the case gets buried and we never find out what's been going on that's caused so much internal controversy?

I've no source, this as you say is a massive **** storm for gardai, the hacks will abide by anything ordered, otherwise they've no sources.


One example of many below.

thejournal.ie/man-taser-arrest-clondalkin-4292750-Oct2018

"Gardaí requested a media blackout yesterday morning as their operation began."

hatrickpatrick

Criminal informer wrote: »

I've no source, this as you say is a massive **** storm for gardai, the hacks will abide by anything ordered, otherwise they've no sources.


One example of many below.

thejournal.ie/man-taser-arrest-clondalkin-4292750-Oct2018

"Gardaí requested a media blackout yesterday morning as their operation began."

FFS, this is one I'm seriously curious about Surely though court proceedings are generally a matter of public record, even if the media don't report? Don't know if the Special Criminal Court is different, but shouldn't information about the trial be available from an official source?

r93kaey5p2izun

I don't think you can compare a request for a media blackout during an active armed hostage situation with a request for a media blackout on court proceedings involving possible issues with Garda conduct! And the former was rendered rather pointless anyway given the extensive social media coverage provided by locals.

Commanchie

Media will destroy AGS when this stuff hits the public.

P.Walnuts

Just as Freddie gets put away looks like Brian Rattigan will be out sooner rather than later. Just pleaded guilty to manslaughter to a crime he was previously convicted of murder. Time served should see the new sentence meaningless.

He still got 17 years for directing drug operations in 2008, who knows how long he will serve of that.

Criminal informer

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

FFS, this is one I'm seriously curious about Surely though court proceedings are generally a matter of public record, even if the media don't report? Don't know if the Special Criminal Court is different, but shouldn't information about the trial be available from an official source?

The interest is huge in this trial you aren't the only one, it will come out eventually, but it has took a weird turn since the death of well respected detective.

Major Great Cellist wrote: »

I don't think you can compare a request for a media blackout during an active armed hostage situation with a request for a media blackout on court proceedings involving possible issues with Garda conduct! And the former was rendered rather pointless anyway given the extensive social media coverage provided by locals.

I agree, it's like comparing apples and oranges, but it's the only likely explanation I personally can conclude, or there's a highened risk to his life because of reporting court dates.

White lighting

There nothing goin to happen in Patrick Hutchs trail until the investagion is finished into Colm Foxs suicide. The papers said that the timeline for that is the end of October so were not just there yet.

pablo128

P.Walnuts wrote: »

Just as Freddie gets put away looks like Brian Rattigan will be out sooner rather than later. Just pleaded guilty to manslaughter to a crime he was previously convicted of murder. Time served should see the new sentence meaningless.

He still got 17 years for directing drug operations in 2008, who knows how long he will serve of that.

17 years minus a quarter remission is 12 and 3/4 years. Not too long to go in that case.

Steviesol

Patrick hutch was up in court 8th Ocotber apparently. But no word. Has anyone heard anything ?

Commanchie

Steviesol wrote: »

Patrick hutch was up in court 8th Ocotber apparently. But no word. Has anyone heard anything ?

Remand till nov.

benny79

P.Walnuts wrote: »

Just as Freddie gets put away looks like Brian Rattigan will be out sooner rather than later. Just pleaded guilty to manslaughter to a crime he was previously convicted of murder. Time served should see the new sentence meaningless.

He still got 17 years for directing drug operations in 2008, who knows how long he will serve of that.

He's locked up since 2002, 16 years done. More than Gilligan.

Commanchie

benny79 wrote: »

He's locked up since 2002, 16 years done. More than Gilligan.

If i was pauly g id be feeling uncomfortable.

benny79

Commanchie wrote: »

If i was pauly g id be feeling uncomfortable.

Who's Pauly g?

White lighting

benny79 wrote: »

Commanchie wrote: »

If i was pauly g id be feeling uncomfortable.

Who's Pauly g?

https://www.herald.ie/news/rattigan-death-threat-man-was-dealing-heroin-29325870.html

Ash.J.Williams

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Have you a source for this? Seems unlikely that the media would oblige, especially given that there are allegations of potential Garda wrongdoing here... Does this mean the case gets buried and we never find out what's been going on that's caused so much internal controversy?

You don't not oblige to a Garda court order

Commanchie

Jonathan keogh & Thomas fox Guilty of murder, Tossy guilty of possesion.

Gina put back till after lunch.

Assetbacked

Commanchie wrote: »

Jonathan keogh & Thomas fox Guilty of murder, Tossy guilty of possesion.

Gina put back till after lunch.

Excellent result.

Commanchie

Assetbacked wrote: »

Excellent result.

I have a feeling Gina gets guilty too. Judge while reading out Fox decision he said "By contributing to the commision of murder In ANY way shape or form you are also guilty of that murder" surely providing steriles and gloves is also contribution.

pablo128

Good enough for them. I wonder do they think the few bob they got was worth it.

Commanchie

pablo128 wrote: »

Good enough for them. I wonder do they think the few bob they got was worth it.

Few bob? When johnny done it went to belfast. Gina took a loan out of credit union and sent the ex with a few grand no more then 3. If thats price of a life knock me down with a feather.

Commanchie

Gina keogh guilty of murder.

ohnonotgmail

Commanchie wrote: »

Gina keogh guilty of murder.

It would have been a travesty if she hadn't been found guilty.

Commanchie

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It would have been a travesty if she hadn't been found guilty.

I agree but going on evidence i was scept

r93kaey5p2izun

Can someone summarise for me Gina's contribution to the murder?

Commanchie

Major Great Cellist wrote: »

Can someone summarise for me Gina's contribution to the murder?

She asked her friend could johnny use her flat to get "the hutch fella" before he gets johnny. Dropped wipes and gloves for johnny to house

r93kaey5p2izun

Commanchie wrote: »

She asked her friend could johnny use her flat to get "the hutch fella" before he gets johnny. Dropped wipes and gloves for johnny to house

Ok. Thanks. Having seen someone else get off scot-free a few months ago having played a much bigger role in a murder I'm surprised. But good enough for her.

Commanchie

Major Great Cellist wrote: »

Ok. Thanks. Having seen someone else get off scot-free a few months ago having played a much bigger role in a murder I'm surprised. But good enough for her.

Who? Aylmer? State couldnt prove he was knew what he was at.

r93kaey5p2izun

Commanchie wrote: »

Who? Aylmer? State couldnt prove he was knew what he was at.

No. Bradley.

Suckit

Commanchie wrote: »

She asked her friend could johnny use her flat to get "the hutch fella" before he gets johnny. Dropped wipes and gloves for johnny to house

Also organised cash and sent it to him in Belfast. Just reading it now.


https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/why-did-this-have-to-happen-mother-of-gareth-hutch-as-three-found-guilty-of-his-murder-37486090.html

Commanchie

Suckit wrote: »

Also organised cash and sent it to him in Belfast. Just reading it now.


https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/why-did-this-have-to-happen-mother-of-gareth-hutch-as-three-found-guilty-of-his-murder-37486090.html

If you back a few posts yall see i said that haha

political analyst

One would have thought that Regina Keogh, as a mother-of-five, would have had better things to do than organising gangland assassinations. She just doesn't look like the type to be involved in that sort of thing.

cloud9876

Who is Mr AB?

hatrickpatrick

I'm a little confused - was this case related to the Kinahan/Byrne v Hutch feud, or was it a separate local dispute? Are the Keoghs connected to the cartel?

Seems strange that there's no mention of the feud in articles about this, and nor have any allegations been made of anyone directing or ordering the murder. Seems like it's unrelated?

Commanchie

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I'm a little confused - was this case related to the Kinahan/Byrne v Hutch feud, or was it a separate local dispute? Are the Keoghs connected to the cartel?

Seems strange that there's no mention of the feud in articles about this, and nor have any allegations been made of anyone directing or ordering the murder. Seems like it's unrelated?

Feud related.

Commanchie

cloud9876 wrote: »

Who is Mr AB?

Mansfields bodyguard, Ballymun living in Turkey

Clytus

cloud9876 wrote: »

Who is Mr AB?

Everyone knows at this stage its Nicky McConnell.

Clytus

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I'm a little confused - was this case related to the Kinahan/Byrne v Hutch feud, or was it a separate local dispute? Are the Keoghs connected to the cartel?

Seems strange that there's no mention of the feud in articles about this, and nor have any allegations been made of anyone directing or ordering the murder. Seems like it's unrelated?

You'll find Tossy Fox was a Facebook pal with Gareth Chubb. Shows there's a cartel connection ok.

political analyst

Does the Keogh family have a history of involvement in crime? Why would Regina risk losing her children to have Gareth Hutch killed?

Commanchie

political analyst wrote: »

Does the Keogh family have a history of involvement in crime? Why would Regina risk losing her children to have Gareth Hutch killed?

Mother and father both dead. Workers. I would know johnny from a few years ago. Keoghs are nice family barring these.

political analyst

Commanchie wrote: »

Mother and father both dead. Workers. I would know johnny from a few years ago. Keoghs are nice family barring these.

Considering that Regina is now serving a life sentence, are the rest of the family minding her children?

Commanchie

political analyst wrote: »

Considering that Regina is now serving a life sentence, are the rest of the family minding her children?

Micks dead, mothers dead, fathers dead, 18 year old nephew and 20 yeat old daughter. Vincent maher ex partner serving a large sentence for guns

pablo128

Dunno who or what lovin Dubai are, but they have only gone and issued an apology to a Mr Daniel Kinahan.
https://t.co/35XnRVEGOY?amp=1

normanoffside

pablo128 wrote: »

Dunno who or what lovin Dubai are

Niall Harbisson same owner as Lovin Dublin I think?

Commanchie

Mcconnell splashed all over the papers today.

Tricky Dicky Ireland

Commanchie wrote: »

Mcconnell splashed all over the papers today.

And ?

Tricky Dicky Ireland

Commanchie wrote: »

Mcconnell splashed all over the papers today.

And ?

pablo128

Tricky Dicky Ireland wrote: »

And ?

And up until now he wasn't pictured or named in the media. Now he is and if seen in Europe he's getting nicked.