Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

Monkeynut

Happy4all wrote: »

did they go selling drugs to kids to fund their drinking?

who sold drugs to kids?

Happy4all

Monkeynut wrote: »

who sold drugs to kids?

Drug dealers;)

Joegriffin2019

That magic white powder......

Monkeynut

Happy4all wrote: »

Drug dealers;)

all drug dealers sell drugs to kids???


they're scum if they do. but all don't.

hawkelady

Monkeynut wrote: »

all drug dealers sell drugs to kids???


they're scum if they do. but all don't.

They’re scum if the sell drugs... fixed that for ya

Gadgetman496

Suckit wrote: »

Other lad dead now too apparently

Not correct (yet anyway)

Monkeynut

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Not correct (yet anyway)

james morrison is meant to be the person with him.

liamoreilly

...Seen a video of what is supposed to be the suspect being arrested...Guards telling him to drop the knife, and he said he wanted him shot...Could be totally wrong of course...

Suckit

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Not correct (yet anyway)

Yep, I edited my post, and came back here to correct it too.. Person that told me misread something, and I thought he told me it as fact (he seemed to).

Bubblegummers

liamoreilly wrote: »

...Seen a video of what is supposed to be the suspect being arrested...Guards telling him to drop the knife, and he said he wanted him shot...Could be totally wrong of course...

Where?

Joegriffin2019

liamoreilly wrote: »

...Seen a video of what is supposed to be the suspect being arrested...Guards telling him to drop the knife, and he said he wanted him shot...Could be totally wrong of course...

Way off.

hatrickpatrick

hawkelady wrote: »

They’re scum if the sell drugs... fixed that for ya

Why? Drugs being illegal at all is a relic from a time when it was acceptable for governments to engage in social engineering around sexual and public morality. Drugs weren't made illegal because they were unhealthy, they were made illegal because hedonism was frowned upon and considered immoral.

liamoreilly

Joegriffin2019 wrote: »

liamoreilly wrote: »

...Seen a video of what is supposed to be the suspect being arrested...Guards telling him to drop the knife, and he said he wanted him shot...Could be totally wrong of course...

Way off.

...Could be for sure, just got in from a friend who said it was...

TallGlass

The guy with the knife was in the East Wall. That looked more like a social incident of him wanting to harm himself or something.

Eircom_Sucks

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Why? Drugs being illegal at all is a relic from a time when it was acceptable for governments to engage in social engineering around sexual and public morality. Drugs weren't made illegal because they were unhealthy, they were made illegal because hedonism was frowned upon and considered immoral.

Says the druggy i bet

yourdeadwright

The lad who was killed tonight worled in the local babers for some time , seemed like a nice lad and quite ,
No idea what he was like with friends or in public but very sad to think he finsihes the day lying on ground dead after been shot in the head, what a waste of a young lifw

SEPT 23 1989

yourdeadwright wrote: »

The lad who was killed tonight worled in the local babers for some time , seemed like a nice lad and quite ,
No idea what he was like with friends or in public but very sad to think he finsihes the day lying on ground dead after been shot in the head, what a waste of a young lifw

One rarely gets shot for nothing

GinAndBitter

Wannabe gangster, don't mess with the big boys.

yourdeadwright

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

yourdeadwright wrote: »

The lad who was killed tonight worled in the local babers for some time , seemed like a nice lad and quite ,
No idea what he was like with friends or in public but very sad to think he finsihes the day lying on ground dead after been shot in the head, what a waste of a young lifw

One rarely gets shot for nothing

Oh for sure obviously went down the wrong path in life , very sad all the same

seamus

Both individuals known to Gardai for drug dealing apparently.

Only kids, probably very tenuous links to the ongoing feud, or maybe just a simple case of another dealer getting them out of his way.

hatrickpatrick

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

Says the druggy i bet

I wish, but having had issues in the past with both depression and motivation, I'm too scared of the dopamine depleted comedown to go anywhere near any kind of stimulants. The concept of downer-type drugs doesn't interest me at all. I do like to get drunk and I smoke weed from time to time if a joint gets passed around, but my views on drugs are entirely ideological in nature - your body, your rules. Nobody else should get to make any rules about what you can or cannot ingest for the purposes of altering your own brain's functioning.

Jeff2

When you see what these people cause like people pulling drugs out of their arse and others injecting it in their legs in full view of anyone walking past.

This happens in top tourist Dublin areas.

How do they get away with it.

Bigmac1euro

Cut my hair many times. Seemed like an alright dude. Know his mates too though these are all quite younger than me. Apparently he always paid his bills but he tried to throw his weight around a bit which got him in trouble. This might not be over money.

Calltocall

There’s a link to an article online showing the young lad along with other students who were awarded a cert from a school in swords for completing the jcsp, all smiling, it’s very sad how it ends for some, as much as you try to protect your kids from getting in with the wrong crowd sometimes it’s not enough, something I dread when my kids get older as how to keep them away from that scene, some kids see the flash, the money etc think they’re invincible, it’s a foolish game to get into which never ends well but they can’t see it, i’d say this kid was in way over his head doesn’t seem like a major criminal.

The pink killer

Look folks its easy to say f them but its not nice for the familys ,we don't know what these kids done. So better wait till we find out more.

ASOT

Suckit wrote: »

Seems like a very small amount to have owed if the rumours are true. Waste of life for some scumbags to take.

50k is what he owed. There's been people shot for much less these days.

Patrick2010

ASOT wrote: »

50k is what he owed. There's been people shot for much less these days.

How do you know that?

realdanbreen

myshirt wrote: »

No respect for life. No respect for anything.

And worse still, I'm still not convinced people realise how sinister this is. We have a dangerous, dangerous attitude of "not on my doorstep, not my problem", or "he must have deserved it" if it's someone the papers describe as "known to Gardai".

Keep that going at your peril and see how it works out.

This is disgusting and absolutely everyone should be concerned this is happening in our community this frequently.

Well said. A guy interviewed at the scene of another killing some months back summed it up well when he said that these guys seem to treat the whole shooting/killing thing as some sort of 'call of duty' type video game.
Not sure what the solution is but it's disgraceful and disgusting that the head honchos on both sides can remain at liberty.

Boom_Bap

F*cking hell, Zach used to cut my hair a few years ago. He seemed like a sound lad, a bit if a wild streak but the impression I got was that he was just living life and having fun.

No idea he'd gotten himself into this type of trouble.

Suckit

ASOT wrote: »

50k is what he owed. There's been people shot for much less these days.

The figure that I heard last night was only €15k.

Garda on the radio are suggesting that he may have gotten in deeper than he realised and also not realised the type of scumbags he was dealing with.

Dublin Spur

how does murdering them get them their €50k or €15k back ?

not a great credit control policy - no winners

Rows Grower

What I can't understand is less than a day after someone is murdered how do people think they know he was killed because he owed money and how do they know how much he owed?

jay1988

Dublin Spur wrote: »

how does murdering them get them their €50k or €15k back ?

not a great credit control policy - no winners

True but it's a serious incentive for anyone else that owes them money to pay up quickly.

liamoreilly

...If the 50k figure is true, then how would he have gotten that deep... He must have been dealing, and either was skimming or got busted and owed the debt...

Row over a smashed window.
https://www.thesun.ie/news/3644234/zach-parker-shot-dead-swords-shooting/

abarkie

Dublin Spur wrote: »

how does murdering them get them their €50k or €15k back ?

not a great credit control policy - no winners

Highlights the implications of none payment

dk1982

you live by the Swords you die by the Swords......

PARlance

Rows Grower wrote: »

What I can't understand is less than a day after someone is murdered how do people think they know he was killed because he owed money and how do they know how much he owed?

It's a fairly small City/Country. You can see from the thread that quiet a few knew him. There'll be talk in the aftermath, it mightn't all be correct but it'll be out there/on here.

Dublin Spur

abarkie wrote: »

Highlights the implications of none payment

must be doing well to be able to write off €50k

Rows Grower

PARlance wrote: »

It's a fairly small City/Country. You can see from the thread that quiet a few knew him. There'll be talk in the aftermath, it mightn't all be correct but it'll be out there/on here.

I understand that because he was a barber people would know him, but he's hardly going to be discussing drug dealing or debts he owes while he's cutting some fella's hair is he?

And by the way I was in Dublin recently and it's far from small.

ToBeFrank123

All these murders are the sad but inevitable result of being involved in hard drugs.

RIP to the victim and condolences to his family.

Hopefully at least one person will learn from this and decide hard drugs are not worth the hassle. The cost and long term misery usually far outweighs any short term pleasure.

seamus

Dublin Spur wrote: »

must be doing well to be able to write off €50k

Of course they are. And, if this guy is supplying to someone and you kill him, then you take over his supply. Win-win.

You'll also find that €50k went somewhere. Someone else is now on the hook for it, whether it's someone up or down the chain from this guy.

Bubblegummers

Considering who is offering condolences on social media- he was nether innocent or got in over his head.

yourdeadwright

Morpheus wrote: »

"He wasn’t a bigtime drug dealer." - reads:
he was a drug dealer.

He assaulted a cop and it goes on to say that he was lucky to avoid jail - 240hrs for assaulting a cop?

I reckon if he had gotten Jail - he'd have been in there last night and not dealing drugs and being shot, he was UN lucky to not get jail.

We need to take scum drug dealers off the streets and put them in jail, for their own good and for the good of our communities.

There are some scum dealers but not everyone who sell's something illegal is automatically scum .

For instance if you sell something like weed and people call you a scum weed dealer but if the next day it becomes legal are they still scum ?

Bubblegummers

yourdeadwright wrote: »

There are some scum dealers but not everyone who sell's something illegal is automatically scum .

For instance if you sell something like weed and people call you a scum weed dealer but if the next day it becomes legal are they still scum ?

Any drug dealer in any form is scum.

If I buy weed off you and renege on the bill, will we go to the small claims court?

yourdeadwright

Bubblegummers wrote: »

Any drug dealer in any form is scum.

If I buy weed off you and renege on the bill, will we go to the small claims court?[/QUOTE



No pviously not as its illegal ,

But with your point of view the guys in lets say Colorado who where selling weed new years eve 2013 where scum but the next day 1st January 2014 it was legal so they are not scum ?

That's a bit odd isn't it ?

I'm not saying I agree with drug dealing or drug dealers can not be scum , I just don't agree that every drug dealer is scum ,

Bubblegummers

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Bubblegummers wrote: »

Any drug dealer in any form is scum.

If I buy weed off you and renege on the bill, will we go to the small claims court?

Colorado isn’t Dublin give your head a shake

yourdeadwright

Bubblegummers wrote: »

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Colorado isn’t Dublin give your head a shake

I'm quite aware of that ,
I just don't agree with your stance that all drug dealers are scum , majority maybe,
Again i'm as apposed to drugs as anyone ,I understand they ruin young people life's but I just don't think its as black and white to call all drug dealers scum

bigpink

A scummer who wanted to be a big time gangster by the sounds of it

shutup

Bubblegummers wrote: »

Considering who is offering condolences on social media- he was nether innocent or got in over his head.

Who is offering condolences?