Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

Flyingsnowball

Southdubin6 wrote: »

I’m not gonna argue with you but I know he doesn’t touch a drop.

It’s possible he doesn’t now but not all the time it’s reported that he doesn’t.

Flyingsnowball

https://m.herald.ie/news/hutchs-drunken-bender-in-city-34747363.html

Here is a link. I know you can’t trust the papers.

I also know a number of business owners from the area.

Telly

You don’t think he’d be drinking watching Dublin win their first AI since 2005? He wasn’t, I was there!

Flyingsnowball

Telly wrote: »

You don’t think he’d be drinking watching Dublin win their first AI since 2005? He wasn’t, I was there!

Wow. One time I seen him driving his limo and I didn’t smell drink off him now that you mention it. Maybe you are right.

Maybe he was baby sitting the grand children after the match and wanted to keep an aul clear head what with him being a paragon of virtue an all.

Dyr

Rows Grower wrote: »

From what I read he was called the monk because of his choice of abstaining from using alcohol or drugs.

A monk with no habit?

Bit odd in fairness

pablo128

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Wow. One time I seen him driving his limo and I didn’t smell drink off him now that you mention it. Maybe you are right.

Maybe he was baby sitting the grand children after the match and wanted to keep an aul clear head what with him being a paragon of virtue an all.

Ah give it a rest. No one cares if he drinks.

GinAndBitter

Telly wrote: »

You don’t think he’d be drinking watching Dublin win their first AI since 2005? He wasn’t, I was there!

1995

Flyingsnowball

pablo128 wrote: »

Ah give it a rest. No one cares if he drinks.

They do by the looks of things.
Anyway it’s none of my business if he does or not.

Has anybody any ideas why there seems to be one splinter ira on the side of the evil kinehan cartel Byrne axis of evil and one Ira splinter on the ordinary honest hutch side.

Has one ira group gone rogue and gone with the cartel to get the money and the good ira have sided with the hutches to fight the good fight for the honest man?

What is the story with all the paramilitaries being involved in this?

It’s kind of like there was a split in the ira and each side backed a horse. If their horse wins they get protection money. I could be a mile off but nobody seems bothered.

Telly

GinAndBitter wrote: »

1995

I actually meant that silly me, maybe he was drinking after all

Sam Quentin

El_Bee wrote: »

P.Walnuts wrote: »

You have to question where on earth the Guards were for the second incident?

House gets shot up and 3 hours later people think they'll get away with shooting up another house a stones throw away...

I say that in the belief the first shooting was reported in time, if not then fair enough.

I think I've said this before a few times but Gardai are mythical creatures in large areas of Dublin, also a lot of people just don't bother calling them anymore because the response time is a joke.

The response time to and in particular a shooting,. would be minutes.

Aska

Silly question alert.

Is all this IRA affilliation from gang members just powertripping? I mean i am in my 40s so I know what the IRA was, like many of you but now guys get arrested and they are in their 20s etc... the IRA haven't been relevant in some of their lifetimes. But it's always thrown out re: membership, so is it gang mentality similar to MCC clubs ?

Just a query

Flyingsnowball

Aska wrote: »

Silly question alert.

Is all this IRA affilliation from gang members just powertripping? I mean i am in my 40s so I know what the IRA was, like many of you but now guys get arrested and they are in their 20s etc... the IRA haven't been relevant in some of their lifetimes. But it's always thrown out re: membership, so is it gang mentality similar to MCC clubs ?

Just a query

Maybe the kinehans decided they arnt paying them tax anymore because they are irrelevant.

MC clubs not MCC clubs.

MCC clubs are just regular guys and gals.

realdanbreen

Telly wrote: »

His kids did go to private school and one went to Trinity believe it or not.

Wow, I never realised there was so much money in driving kids to the Debs in a limo!

Southdubin6

realdanbreen wrote: »

Wow, I never realised there was so much money in driving kids to the Debs in a limo!

There’s it but Brinks stock plenty

hatrickpatrick

The Enbalmer wrote: »

I dunno if it's a sad situation as such..the people you're talking about weren't shot for singing too loud in church. and don't forget he's a career criminal himself..lay down with dogs,get fleas.

Well I was more thinking for the innocent family memebers who get shot in order to hurt a gangster relative, I mean it's not their fault who's family they were born into

hatrickpatrick

realdanbreen wrote: »

Wow, I never realised there was so much money in driving kids to the Debs in a limo!

In fairness, I left school (private) in 2008 right at the tail end of the Celtic Tiger (bank shares collapsed the previous summer in 2007, knock on effects didn't hit the wider economy until Autumn 2008) and you'd be amazed at the ridiculous amounts of money which were thrown at things like that. Wouldn't surprise me at all if someone providing a service like that could get completely loaded from it - it wasn't just debs, people would hire stuff like that for their birthdays, going away / coming home parties, end of exams, etc. It was a normal thing for a lot of the D4 crowd, at least for a while.

I always preferred to save my socialising budget for actual booze, so we'd get the DART into town but we'd be downing vodka and other such niceties on it the whole way in

Southdubin6

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

In fairness, I left school (private) in 2008 right at the tail end of the Celtic Tiger (bank shares collapsed the previous summer in 2007, knock on effects didn't hit the wider economy until Autumn 2008) and you'd be amazed at the ridiculous amounts of money which were thrown at things like that. Wouldn't surprise me at all if someone providing a service like that could get completely loaded from it - it wasn't just debs, people would hire stuff like that for their birthdays, going away / coming home parties, end of exams, etc. It was a normal thing for a lot of the D4 crowd, at least for a while.

I always preferred to save my socialising budget for actual booze, so we'd get the DART into town but we'd be downing vodka and other such niceties on it the whole way in

People get limos for Funerals nowadays too. ZWP!!

Flyingsnowball

Southdubin6 wrote: »

People get limos for Funerals nowadays too. ZWP!!

Nowadays?

Honestly where do you people go during the day. I don’t think I’ve ever been to a funeral without some limos or at least towncars.

It’s part of the package.

Gadgetman496

realdanbreen wrote: »

Wow, I never realised there was so much money in driving kids to the Debs in a limo!

He got rid of that back in 2009 I think.

I loved the name he gave that Limo company, CAB & he claimed it stood for "Carry any body" but we all knew it was really giving two fingers to the Criminal assets bureau (CAB).

Actually, now that I think of it, there could have been a "body" in the boot the odd time too!

Old article:
https://www.herald.ie/news/credit-crunch-forces-monk-to-sell-luxury-limo-27908917.html

PLOPS

begbysback wrote: »

When I die I don’t want any limos at my funeral, or people who would get limos to a funeral.

Don't get mixed up between Hummer limos and a limo that all Irish funerals have at them.

Monkeynut

begbysback wrote: »

When I die I don’t want any limos at my funeral, or people who would get limos to a funeral.

I don't want a stretch Hummer limo. But I really think a limo is the norm for a funeral to hold your relatives behind the hearse.

begbysback

Ok you’ve twisted me arm, but only 1 limo

Monkeynut

begbysback wrote: »

Ok you’ve twisted me arm, but only 1 limo

But I have a large family. Lol

Southdubin6

begbysback wrote: »

When I die I don’t want any limos at my funeral, or people who would get limos to a funeral.

I just don’t want a limo at mine with the 2 men who colluded with the 3rd lad to shoot me. No names no scandal caolan.

hatrickpatrick

I want my funeral to be a massive sesh, so f*ck the expensive limos or caskets or anything for my actual body,if I have cash I'll put some aside for a free bar and a DJ so people will be like "Remember Paddy's funeral? That was a f*cking epic day"

I've never really understood the idea of a grandiose funeral procession or aesthetic tbh, if I had that kind of money to spend on it I'd rather spend it on entertaining whoever shows up. I suppose maybe the grandiose procession offers some kind of comfort to the grieving? Call me a cynic, but when I look at photos of David Byrne's funeral (which took place literally next door to where I went to college, they closed the building for the day on the grounds that the Gardai were sweeping the street for bombs etc the morning before) it strikes me that the grandiosity wasn't so much for him or his family, as much as it was the crew sending out a message that "we're rich and powerful as f*ck, don't mess with us" to those who had targeted them.

Chris P Bacon

Gerry Hutchs kids did not go to private school but they are not involved in crime either. Good people imo and kept well away from that life.

Chris P Bacon

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Flyingsnowball

Chris P Bacon wrote: »

Gerry Hutchs kids did not go to private school but they are not involved in crime either. Good people imo and kept well away from that life.

Wasn’t one of them shot?

Chris P Bacon

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Wasn’t one of them shot?

No

Flyingsnowball

Chris P Bacon wrote: »

No

Sorry makes sense now. Mixed up there.

Rows Grower

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Sorry makes sense now. Mixed up there.

LOL

Flyingsnowball

Rows Grower wrote: »

LOL

Does he have no male children?
How come the media are claiming innocent women are being burnt out of their Gaf’s and innocent women are being attacked at their jobs.

You never hear of innocent lads being chased around the place,

Rows Grower

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Does he have no male children?
How come the media are claiming innocent women are being burnt out of their Gaf’s and innocent women are being attacked at their jobs.

You never hear of innocent lads being chased around the place,

Slightly over 24 hours ago you came bursting into this thread like Mr. Billy Big Balls telling us all not to believe what we read in the papers.

You tried to come across as the big tough man who knew the real story.

LOL.

KM792

Just out of curiosity,are all these gangland figures as fearsome as the media make them out to be?Finglas' Mr Flashy took me by surprise when I actually saw a picture of him.Nothing like what I expected. Would he be an intimidating figure when he's walking round his local area,or would people just say "Ah shur we know him since he's young".
Just a query.

Telly

KM792 wrote: »

Just out of curiosity,are all these gangland figures as fearsome as the media make them out to be?Finglas' Mr Flashy took me by surprise when I actually saw a picture of him.Nothing like what I expected. Would he be an intimidating figure when he's walking round his local area,or would people just say "Ah shur we know him since he's young".
Just a query.

He’s tiny and looks like a child

Gadgetman496

Telly wrote: »

He’s tiny and looks like a child

Its not his physical properties you need to worry about, its his mind & the things he's prepared to get others to do for him.

KM792

Oh I'm well aware what him and his ilk are capable of,just making the point he wasn't what I'd envisaged in my minds eye.I suppose what I was trying to ask was is he someone who would terrorise his neighbours and intimitate or is he just an ordinary guy in his "day to day life"?

Chris P Bacon

Ive been around a few of these "heads" down through the years, on both sides of the feud and another serious player whos not involved and tbh they are usually charming not intimidating people and somtimes even quiet, but ive never been on the bad side of them.

Actions speak louder than words though and there actions usually lead to one of two things.

End of the day there bullys and cowards, the real hardman is the one stands up to them.

Monkeynut

It's a joke the way these people can, Order hummers to funerals, pay for funerals, pay for free bar at funerals. Everyone knows they sell drugs. But yet nothing can be done till it's in their hands and they're caught.
Most are either on social or not collecting at all. But still can buy all these things... Should be searched daily and prove how they have the funds for such an extravagant life or get the hammer.

Not going to happen though. Or they have fronts to bypass it.

El_Bee

Southdubin6 wrote: »

I just don’t want a limo at mine with the 2 men who colluded with the 3rd lad to shoot me. No names no scandal caolan.

Yeah that's mad, I wonder how the poor family felt seeing them there

KM792

Southdubin6 wrote: »

I just don’t want a limo at mine with the 2 men who colluded with the 3rd lad to shoot me. No names no scandal caolan.

And there was me thinking Smithers was so unassuming in the Simpsons...

Atlantic Dawn

Monkeynut wrote: »

It's a joke the way these people can, Order hummers to funerals, pay for funerals, pay for free bar at funerals. Everyone knows they sell drugs. But yet nothing can be done till it's in their hands and they're caught.
Most are either on social or not collecting at all. But still can buy all these things... Should be searched daily and prove how they have the funds for such an extravagant life or get the hammer.

Not going to happen though. Or they have fronts to bypass it.

They could have won it on the horses.

Monkeynut

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They could have won it on the horses.

Yeah I know that one too. Just like Bertie.

bigpink

Chris P Bacon wrote: »

Ive been around a few of these "heads" down through the years, on both sides of the feud and another serious player whos not involved and tbh they are usually charming not intimidating people and somtimes even quiet, but ive never been on the bad side of them.

Actions speak louder than words though and there actions usually lead to one of two things.

End of the day there bullys and cowards, the real hardman is the one stands up to them.

How friendly are you with them

Jeff2

Google street view won't even go in some of these areas. Google knows.

Corduff/Fortlawn/Darndale......

Flyingsnowball

Rows Grower wrote: »

Slightly over 24 hours ago you came bursting into this thread like Mr. Billy Big Balls telling us all not to believe what we read in the papers.

You tried to come across as the big tough man who knew the real story.

LOL.

Lol yourself sitting in on Valentine’s Day talking about Gerry Hutch and how much you know him.

I’m on the way into work and couldn’t tell you how many kids the people I work with all day have.

Much on yourself? Head down the local breakfast roll shop, hope to catch a glimpse of some gangsters?

Southdubin6

El_Bee wrote: »

Yeah that's mad, I wonder how the poor family felt seeing them there

I thought it was mental since that mans ex is now a handful of weeks after his death on a date with one of them

Sweet.Science

Southdubin6 wrote: »

I thought it was mental since that mans ex is now a handful of weeks after his death on a date with one of them

You're joking me ?

Annd9

:cool:

Sweet.Science wrote: »

You're joking me ?

No surprises there , the term "Gangster Gee " comes to mind .