Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018

Falthyron

Arsenal making big name signings. To be fair, it is very hard for us to compete with that. :pac:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/7tp2ic/a_front_three_of_lacazette_aubameyang_and/

Cantona's Collars

Falthyron wrote: »

Arsenal making big name signings. To be fair, it is very hard for us to compete with that. :pac:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/7tp2ic/a_front_three_of_lacazette_aubameyang_and/

Trump doesn't like them.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/football-fans-find-what-donald-trump-did-with-the-arsenal-shirt-piers-morgan-gave-him-hilarious/ar-BBImDqL?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

He's more of a United fan, don't think that's a good thing but he could go for "Let's make United great again" or Jose could build a wall instead of parking the bus.

Mitch Connor

If Zlatan wants to stay to the end of the season then great. Maybe he will regain enough fitness that he could be a good option in some games - another option up front when chasing a goal. I'd lose zero sleep over the extra wages spent to be honest. a drop in the ocean of hedge fund fees, debt repayments and dividends.

If he wants to head to America and play at a lower level that would be less physically taxing, then I'd wish him good luck too.

Disappointing that United are going to be the one side he didn't win a league title with though.

https://twitter.com/ManUtd_HQ/status/957730103601123330

Kerrydude1981

Laporte has triggered his release clause

Citys most expensive signing,no media circus about wages or agents fees

Mitch Connor

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Laporte has triggered his release clause

Citys most expensive signing,no media circus about wages or agents fees

Cause he is paying Bilbao 60million out of his own money, to play for City for free. for the love of the game. for beauty. for pep.

brinty

M!Ck^ wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ManUtd_HQ/status/957730103601123330

Are you zerks in disguise M!Ck^

M!Ck^

M!Ck^ wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ManUtd_HQ/status/957730103601123330

Dat passion tho'.

Headshot

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Laporte has triggered his release clause

Citys most expensive signing,no media circus about wages or agents fees

Because they don't sell papers unlike utd.

The journalist know utd are Hollywood and are the giants of the game

Delboy5

Pep, hes all about the coaching....

- Bought the most expensive goalkeeper in history.
- Bought the 2 most expensive full-backs in history.
- 2 of the 4 most expensive centre-backs in history when Laporte joins..

Kerrydude1981

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Cause he is paying Bilbao 60million out of his own money, to play for City for free. for the love of the game. for beauty. for pep.

He has been saving his money for this move,reports are he withdrew all his money from his post office account today

Drumpot

How much including wages will Laporte cost? Oh wait nobody cares about wages unless it can be used against United....

It is a case that United simply are a bigger club that more people love to read positive or nagatige stories about.

pjohnson

Apparently City wouldn't allow Laporte & Bilbao to have a goodbye press conference. Thats poor form imo. Bilbao are an actual family club so woulda been nice if he got a proper farewell.

Drumpot

Delboy5 wrote: »

Pep, hes all about the coaching....

- Bought the most expensive goalkeeper in history.
- Bought the 2 most expensive full-backs in history.
- 2 of the 4 most expensive centre-backs in history when Laporte joins..

He’s a top coach but did f**k all of note at Bayern. Unlike Barca or city, he didn’t have pretty much a choice of top players to sign. Funny that. Don’t recall Jose having this sort of choice at Inter!

brinty

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Cause he is paying Bilbao 60million out of his own money, to play for City for free. for the love of the game. for beauty. for pep.

doubt he's earned 60m so where's that coming from?????

Jayop

Haven't we been told all week that if you're a forward you want to play for Pep otherwise you#re a mercenary. Shouldn't the same apply in reverse if you're a defender??

Drumpot

https://www.mcfcwatch.com/2018/01/24/revealed-the-breakdown-of-manchester-citys-e150m-investment-in-aymeric-laporte/

Feels like if he signed for United all the headlines would be "United splash €150 million" . .

jayo26

brinty wrote: »

doubt he's earned 60m so where's that coming from?????

Same place ander herrera got his money from when he joined us..

Lord TSC

brinty wrote: »

doubt he's earned 60m so where's that coming from?????

Serious answer.

Release clauses have to be paid by the players themselves in Spain I think, so the buying clubs give them the cash. So City give him 60m plus the relevant taxes, and then he buys himself out of the contract, and signs for City.

HONKEY TONK

MLS Miami Announcement Live

https://www.futbolmiamimls.com/#play

Fair play to Beckham

Lord TSC

20 minutes till the FA Cup draw. Teams left in it.

West Bromwich Albion (Premier League)
Leicester City (Premier League)
Huddersfield Town (Premier League)/Birmingham City (Championship)
Notts County (League Two)/Swansea City (Premier League)
Manchester United (Premier League)
Sheffield Wednesday (Championship)
Manchester City (Premier League)
Coventry City (League Two)
Millwall (Championship)/Rochdale (League One)
Southampton (Premier League)
Brighton & Hove Albion (Premier League)
Wigan Athletic (League One)
Hull City (Championship)
Newport County (League Two)/Tottenham (Premier League)
Chelsea (Premier League)
Sheffield United (Championship)

jayo26

Lord TSC wrote: »

20 minutes till the FA Cup draw. Teams left in it.

West Bromwich Albion (Premier League)
Leicester City (Premier League)
Huddersfield Town (Premier League)/Birmingham City (Championship)
Notts County (League Two)/Swansea City (Premier League)
Manchester United (Premier League)
Sheffield Wednesday (Championship)
Manchester City (Premier League)
Coventry City (League Two)
Millwall (Championship)/Rochdale (League One)
Southampton (Premier League)
Brighton & Hove Albion (Premier League)
Wigan Athletic (League One)
Hull City (Championship)
Newport County (League Two)/Tottenham (Premier League)
Chelsea (Premier League)
Sheffield United (Championship)

Where is it on tsc?

Jayop

jayo26 wrote: »

Where is it on tsc?

BBC 1

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42854557

brinty

jayo26 wrote: »

Same place ander herrera got his money from when he joined us..

The thre amigo's wha.....

Lord TSC wrote: »

Serious answer.

Release clauses have to be paid by the players themselves in Spain I think, so the buying clubs give them the cash. So City give him 60m plus the relevant taxes, and then he buys himself out of the contract, and signs for City.

Can i just say .. wouldn't it just be hilarious if he turned around and then signed for United instead....

Now obviously it wouldn't happen.... but imagine the uproar.......

DM_7

Lord TSC wrote: »

Serious answer.

Release clauses have to be paid by the players themselves in Spain I think, so the buying clubs give them the cash. So City give him 60m plus the relevant taxes, and then he buys himself out of the contract, and signs for City.

During Neymar saga a lot was written on this. Employment law in spain allows for the contract to include a release clause. It is supposed to be linked to the wages of the employee. In most football cases the buying club will pay the fee to the receiving club as there is a general acceptance the transfer is inevitable. The selling club can be stubborn, insist the player pay up, but that is pointless now as the tax was removed in 2016.

I believe the original Herrera deal failed as Bilbao did not want to accept money from United and if United paid Herrera the tax issue increased the cost, stopping it.

Second time round I think Bilbao were more agreeable to a transfer due to the timing so the clubs worked together.

pjohnson

With Arsenal getting Aubameyang I wont be looking forward to the next time we face them.

jayo26

pjohnson wrote: »

With Arsenal getting Aubameyang I wont be looking forward to the next time we face them.

Fuk that we have Sanchez now if he is on form not one team will look forward to facing him either.

I'd be looking forward to facing arsenals defence and midfield.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Can Zlatan leave for the states any time?

brinty

pjohnson wrote: »

With Arsenal getting Aubameyang I wont be looking forward to the next time we face them.

amazing how Arsene is loosening the purse strings

thats 60m on Aubameyang and 50m on Lacazette...

still less than 953m we paid for Sanchez.....

which has probably gone up another 47.68m for the add ons on Auba's deal....
to bring Sanchez deal to beyond the first billion dollar transfer!!!!

brinty

MrMac84 wrote: »

Can Zlatan leave for the states any time?

i believe so, and aren't they in their off season now so he'd be going into pre season training??

jimmytwotimes 2013

MrMac84 wrote: »

Can Zlatan leave for the states any time?

Jose said the club is there to help him in whatever he chooses to do. Jose did say he's on his last year of his contract and it wouldn't be surprising to see United release him if that's what he wants.

bangkok

Lord TSC wrote: »

20 minutes till the FA Cup draw. Teams left in it.

West Bromwich Albion (Premier League)
Leicester City (Premier League)
Huddersfield Town (Premier League)/Birmingham City (Championship)
Notts County (League Two)/Swansea City (Premier League)
Manchester United (Premier League)
Sheffield Wednesday (Championship)
Manchester City (Premier League)
Coventry City (League Two)
Millwall (Championship)/Rochdale (League One)
Southampton (Premier League)
Brighton & Hove Albion (Premier League)
Wigan Athletic (League One)
Hull City (Championship)
Newport County (League Two)/Tottenham (Premier League)
Chelsea (Premier League)
Sheffield United (Championship)

its at 7.20..

Lord TSC

bangkok wrote: »

its at 7.20..

I can't read military time, apparently. You're right, it said 19:20, and I read that as 5:20.

secman

Is the draw on at twenty past seven ?

jimmytwotimes 2013

secman wrote: »

Is the draw on at twenty past seven ?

No it's in 20 mins

secman

Coventry please

LuckyGent88

Will take that. Revenge against Huddersfield

DM_7

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Will take that. Revenge against Huddersfield

They have a replay to get through.

bangkok

A fairly crap 4th round draw.

20 Times 20 Times

As a season ticket holder I love these early round away draws

FatherTed

bangkok wrote: »

A fairly crap 4th round draw.

Besides us and WBA/Southampton, the other Prem teams get lower league clubs. What are the odds of that happening? I'm sure nothing to do with heated balls or anything of the sort....

Headshot

Delighted for David.

His dream has finally came to fruition

jayo26

Headshot wrote: »

Delighted for David.

His dream has finally came to fruition

Yep now all he needs is zlatan.

Don't think they will actually play until 2019 or 2020 I'd imagine.

Jayop

Some fun* Anthony Martial facts....

- Anthony Martial and Jimmy Greenhoff both on 39 goals in 123 apps. Jimmy only played 123 times for United, hopefully Anthony plays many more times.
- Anthony Martial also now only 3 goals behind Juan Mata for the honour of being the top club goal scorer currently playing for us.
- Martial, Carrick and Valencia have all scored 24 premier league goals.


*may not actually be fun

Jayop

Some stats picked out to compare to United players gone by and some other top PL goal scorers.

United appearances record
1 Giggs 963
12 Roy Keane 480
17 Carrick 460
52 Antonio Valencia 314
56 Vidic 300
58 David DeGea 298
88 VanNistlerooy 219
140 Yorke 152
162 Stam 127
168 Martial 123
189 Lingard 113
200 Rashford 107
244 Pogba 78

United Goal All-Time - (Worth keeping an eye on)
1 Rooney 253
2 Charlton 249
6 George Best 179
8 Ryan Giggs 168
18 Ronaldo 118
22 Bryan Robson 99
38 RVP 58
63 Juan Mata 39
68 Martial 36
87 Welbeck 29
87 Zlatan 29
87 Rashford 29
133 Forlan 17
128 Lukaku 18
172 Pogba 12

United League
1 Charlton 199
7 George Best 137
11 Ryan Giggs 114
21 Ronaldo 84
40 RVP 48
55 Javier Hernandez 37
69 Juan Mata 30
85 Martial 24
116 Zlatan 17
136 Rashford 14
162 Lukaku 11
175 Forlan 10
188 Pogba 8

United Europe (A bit harder to get the combined stats for all comps)
1 Rooney 39
2 VanNistelrooy 38
3 Giggs 29
4 Law 28
5 Scholes 26
Rashford 7
Martial 5
Zlatan 5
Lukaku 4

Premier League all time
1 Alan Shearer Blackburn Rovers, Newcastle United 260
2 Wayne Rooney Everton, Manchester United 208
8 Michael Owen Liverpool, Newcastle, Manchester United, Stoke 150
12 Aguero Man City 138
24 Drogba Chelsea 104
27 Harry Kane Spurs 99
29 Lukaku WBA, Everton, Manchester United 96
101 Mata Chelsea, Manchester United 48
267 Martial Manchester United 24
378 Zlatan Manchester United 17
467 Rashford Manchester United 14
726 Pogba Manchester United 8

Headshot

Going to be fascinating how we lineup against Spurs.

I've no idea how the forward line will look, I just want to see Martial and Sanchez starting

Jayop

Headshot wrote: »

Going to be fascinating how we lineup against Spurs.

I've no idea how the forward line will look, I just want to see Martial and Sanchez starting

I doubt there will be any real surprises.

4231 with the normal back 4.

......Pogba Matic
Sanchez Mata Martial
...........Rom

Maybe swap Sanchez and Mata's positions or swap Jesse in for Mata.

S.M.B.

Genuinely concerned that they both won't start.

Hope José proves me wrong though.

Jayop

I think it's a cert that those two start and I only really see the Mata/Lingard position as being up for debate now.

bangkok

S.M.B. wrote: »

Genuinely concerned that they both won't start.

Hope José proves me wrong though.

Martial will def start, he was even rested for cup game. In the best form of his career.

Think we might go..


Lukaku

Martial sanchez

Pogba matic herrera