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  • 30-01-2018 12:01pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi everyone,

    looking for advice what to do or how to proceed.

    I have been in this work since last spring. They lured me out from my previous company as they wanted to get someone who is experienced and have knowledge and expertise in the area.
    At the beginning everything was almost fine though there were some strange incidents. My probation period was until July last year which I passed and was told everything is fine.

    At the end of October of last year out of blue everything changed - abusive language, offensive emails and etc. I could not make head or tails of it. Long story short - without giving any explanation or stating the reason I got restricted of doing my job, contact clients and suppliers, deal with new queries, basically micromanaging as every email I wanted to send out must have been authorised by one of the directors. I was shocked, but as a fighter I wanted to get to the bottom of it and request a mediation.

    This is a small company , but anyway, to my big surprise they do not have any Health and Safety regulations in place (I was looking to start a grievance procedure)! They have no HR specialist in house or outsourced to turn for an advice. I asked in written for Health and Safety regulations, but was ignored totally.

    I tried to put up with all this as long as I could but as there is no solution coming and there are other aspects in this company which I d not like (unsaying the invoices for suppliers for months, total disrespect to their clients, employees and co-operation partners).

    It all ended with me in sick leave due to work-related anxiety and stress. I am at the moment in sick leave.

    Now all the rest of my colleagues received their January salary except me. I have again enquired in written, but no response from them.

    I hate conflicts and I am strong believer that every situation could be solved when both sides have a dialogue and work together to find a solution from situation.
    I will be happy to resign if this is their intention, but why then not to say so? why not to open a discussion and sort the things out?

    Has anyone been in the similar situation?
    How to proceed if there is no answer to any of your enquiries?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭Diziet


    How to proceed is to talk to an employment solicitor, and also look into your contract, what does it say about long term sick pay?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    Diziet wrote: »
    How to proceed is to talk to an employment solicitor, and also look into your contract, what does it say about long term sick pay?

    As op there less than a year (op said "spring"), the op would not have benefit of protection of UDA so I'm not sure what use an employment solicitor would be.

    Op, in Ireland there is no entitlement to payment from your employer while you are absent from work due to illness unless otherwise stated in your contract. You don't say how long you are off work, if you haven't worked this month, then you will not be paid.

    If you are looking to initiate grievance proceedings six months into your job op, you might be better served looking for new employment, it sounds like this job has gone sour.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,366 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Nuhutaja wrote: »
    Now all the rest of my colleagues received their January salary except me. I have again enquired in written, but no response from them.
    have you worked in Janurary. If not, then I'd assume that's why you haven't been paid.
    I will be happy to resign if this is their intention, but why then not to say so? why not to open a discussion and sort the things out?
    If they was their intention, they could probably just let you go. I doubt it's there intention. Just because they don't want to pay you when your on leave, doesn't mean they want to get rid out you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,301 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Nuhutaja wrote: »
    It all ended with me in sick leave due to work-related anxiety and stress. I am at the moment in sick leave.
    Check their sick leave policy regarding pay. In some companies you have to be there X amount of time before they pay sick pay, others pay nothing, and it's up to yourself to sign up to social welfare.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,574 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    This is indicative of many many small businesses in Ireland. The owner often thinks that because they are a good business person and have created a successful business that they can be a good manager too.
    But the truth is they are very different roles, this is something that only usually comes to the fore when something goes sour and they have no idea how to deal with the situation.

    My guess is the manager has something in their mind but no clue as to how to make it happen or communicate it to the employee and so frustration is seeping through in emails and communication resulting in how things are at the moment.

    Best thing OP can do is ask for a face to face meeting. If letters are being ignored then call into the office. Many business people respond better to face to face approaches. Ask to schedule a meeting when they have time to talk things through, don’t expect it to be dealt with on the spot, although do be prepared as it may happen.
    Ask to explore what the problems are from the perspective of the employer and how they see it can be moved forward.
    My experience is that this type of business owner finds it difficult to fully trust the employee again but can do over time, my fear is this relationship is too far gone to recover. The best result may be agreement that a positive reference will be given in the future.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭Diziet


    davo10;106017892

    As op there less than a year (op said "spring"), the op would not have benefit of protection of UDA so I'm not sure what use an employment solicitor would be.

    Good point, I had missed the length of employment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭koumi


    I'm guessing English is not your first language op and I'm wondering if this might be causing some mis-communications when attempting to resolve difficulties. I'd second the posts above which suggest going over contract and if you were to contact your employer to discuss the situation maybe do so in person if possible and avoid any possibility of misunderstanding via email. I've actually had a bit of trouble trying to understand your writing so I suggest you ask for assistance from an English speaker who might be able to help guide and help you to communicate more effectively with that department. Best of luck


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