Ant-Man and The Wasp

Mr E

Couldn't find a thread on this... First trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OntVY2igLw

Varik

Didn't think about it before how civil war was going to effect this movie.

brianregan09

Looks a tonne of fun

Mr Crispy

I was surprised at how much I ended up enjoying the first installment, especially given the production problems. If this is more of the same silly fun, I'm in.

Slydice

Trailer tomorrow!

Lithium93_

New Trailer

Mr Crispy

Looks like they've recaptured the tone of the first one. Looking forward to it!

El Duda

I'm getting a great feeling of

"Who bloody cares.... WE'VE SEEN INFINITY WAR FFS. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENS NEXT?! WHY THE HELL AM I SITTING THROUGH A WACKY COMEDY AT A TIME LIKE THIS?!"

Marvel always deliver though so I'm sure they have it all figured out.

pixelburp

Hannah John-Kamen is a pretty inspired choice for the villain; she doesn't have a huge CV, but she's the lead in the ScyFy show 'Killjoys' and has shown to possess bags of kickass style charisma. Hopefully the script taps into that, and gives her something to work with; goes without saying how often the MCU drops the ball with its villains. At the very least they need to stop killing them off by the final act.

fluke

El Duda wrote: »

I'm getting a great feeling of

"Who bloody cares.... WE'VE SEEN INFINITY WAR FFS. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENS NEXT?! WHY THE HELL AM I SITTING THROUGH A WACKY COMEDY AT A TIME LIKE THIS?!"

Marvel always deliver though so I'm sure they have it all figured out.

I kinda get what you are saying. I think a lot of people are gonna go to this expecting... answers.

Lithium93_

For anyone expecting Infinity War tie in, lower expectations because going by the film synopsis.

Set between the events of Captain America: Civil War and Avengers: Infinity War,

Scott Lang, now under house arrest after the events of Civil War, tries to balance his home life as a father with his responsibilities as Ant-Man

, when Hope van Dyne and Hank Pym present him with a new mission to bring to light secrets from their past, teaming up with Van Dyne as the new Wasp

Mitch Connor

I'm not expecting any answers as to what will happen next for the Avengers, but I do expect something big in this movie that will impact what we can expect in A4 (and I reckon the same for Captain Marvel).

I reckon we will see some Quantum Realm stuff that will tie in to both Captain Marval and reams of speculation for A4.

I see nothing in this trailer to indicate that... but i am (possibly setting myself up for a fall) expecting something big and A4 related.

IncognitoMan

I think the most you'll get is a reason that Ant-Man and The Wasp weren't in Infinity War. I expect this to be more or less like Black Panther with regards to tie ins with IW.

irish_stevo815

I would guess that this will be it's own movie as such with a tie in at the end to or post credit scene to Infinity Way/Avengers 4.

They will do what they have to, travel to quantum realm, etc. Then when they arrive back at the end, they see the effects of Thanos from IW so it will be up to date time wise.

The same will go for Captain Marvel I presume. Hence being set prior to current events in the MCU timeline

JJ

Has anyone noticed how most of the rest of the world has a release date in early July but it isn't released here until 3rd August? Since the World Cup is on and the UK and Ireland usually have the same release dates for most films, they're worried about it low cinema attendance in England during the World Cup. We were supposed to get this a week before the US like we usually do. Now it's pushed back to August. I predict a lot of downloads because fans won't want wait or avoid spoilers for a month.

IncognitoMan

It really was a terrible idea to have a month in between release dates.

Like if there is anything worth spoiling in it then there's no hope not seeing them online at some stage over a month.

I kinda hope they get screwed now just so this is never a viable option again.

EoinMcLovin

IncognitoMan wrote: »

It really was a terrible idea to have a month in between release dates.

Like if there is anything worth spoiling in it then there's no hope not seeing them online at some stage over a month.

I kinda hope they get screwed now just so this is never a viable option again.

Yeah it makes no sense to delay it in Europe due to the world cup. From the studio's point of view, they will have reduced number of people seeing it on release during the World Cup but on the flip side as a result of it being released the month before, most people will have either just torrented it or had gotten spoiled on the Internet so they will still get reduced attendance.

They should have just delayed the US release to after World Cup. Paul Rudd and Evangeline Lily are also completely against the one month delay in Europe .

JP Liz V1

I thought it was still out here in July

EoinMcLovin

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I thought it was still out here in July

Nope, it was delayed here due to World Cup. Would have been Ok years ago but nowadays it’s a completely idiotic decision by the studio.

Lithium93_

Not the thread to ask, but isn't Incredible 2 also being delayed by the World Cup?

ixoy

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Not the thread to ask, but isn't Incredible 2 also being delayed by the World Cup?

I believe so. It's also why we got Jurassic World two weeks before America.
These delays are irritating and surely it makes sense to offer these as counter programming.

GavRedKing

I'm sure now that people could still go to the cinema during the WC. :pac:

Although in saying that, I'm not overly pushed though about seeing this, having seen 2 different trailers for it, I just dont like the look of it and I really enjoyed the first one as it was different to the norm.

IncognitoMan

World cup games at 1, 4 and 7 and trip to the cinema at 9.30. Easy :pac:

AMKC

GavRedKing wrote: »

I'm sure now that people could still go to the cinema during the WC. :pac:

Although in saying that, I'm not overly pushed though about seeing this, having seen 2 different trailers for it, I just dont like the look of it and I really enjoyed the first one as it was different to the norm.

I have to say I also really enjoyed the first one and think its a very underrated film. Did not even know about this until I seen a trailer of it in the cinema a month or so back. Think the title is kind of awkward but really hope it does well and is good as I want to see a third one too.

Unearthly

IncognitoMan wrote: »

World cup games at 1, 4 and 7 and trip to the cinema at 9.30. Easy :pac:

From what I can see the majority of games would have been played already by the time it would have been released. You'd be looking at 2 days of matches for quarters, then 2 nights for the semis then the final.

Wouldn't affect the box office at all in my opinion

PTH2009

Going to be a nightmare trying to avoid spoilers for this

I think this will have a huge impact on IW part 2

pixelburp

The few reviews I've read have suggested that this is a broadly standalone story with little to no connection with Infinity War. That it's a deliberate, disposable pallete cleanser after IW. Seems like spoilers may not be such a problem and can be enjoyed on its own terms

ScrubsfanChris

pixelburp wrote: »

The few reviews I've read have suggested that this is a broadly standalone story with little to no connection with Infinity War. That it's a deliberate, disposable pallete cleanser after IW. Seems like spoilers may not be such a problem and can be enjoyed on its own terms

Its set well before those events. Surely everyone expected this no?

vg88

Was looking forward to seeing it friday and only ****ing found out. Like I always pay for movies I want to see, but this time I'm not waiting and watching online

HandsomeBob

PTH2009 wrote: »

Going to be a nightmare trying to avoid spoilers for this

I think this will have a huge impact on IW part 2

If I had to guess the only connection this will have to IW is the last 5 or 10 minutes in order to connect Lang to the bigger picture.

Foxtrol

Saw this last night. Like most Marvel movies it was a lot of fun and this took a step forward from the original. It is a complete tone shift from IW and even though I expected this going in it still took me a while to settle into it. It is probably as close to a comedy movie they’ve done (even more so than Ragnorok) and about 90% of the jokes hit for me, which is a solid return. I saw it in 3D on a huge IMAX screen and actually enjoyed the 3D for a change. Some of the visuals in the quantum realm where fantastic.

Looking forward to discussing it and its implications further when people get to a chance to see it. I feel it was strong in areas where I normally see complaints for other Marvel movies - it didn’t feel like any tie ins were forced, solid villain that you understood the motives, and no world threatening huge battles.

There is one mid credit scene and another one right at the end. I would definitely advise that no one moves before at least the mid-credit scene.

Ant-man and Wasp will return………?

Basq

Yeah, good solid fun. A nice little breezy palate cleanser after Infinity War. Pena steals the show - especially the

truth serum

scene.

SimonTemplar

I really enjoyed the first Ant-Man but I think this is a step down and a fairly forgettable entry for an MCU movie. Making it a fun light weight movie fits with the Ant-Man series and a nice break from the seriousness of Infinity War.

I think the direction is quite good especially the action scenes with The Wasp. She is a cool design and her abilities are used pretty well. The humor is more hit and miss this time but Pena is very funny especially a scene involving truth serum.

The script is the weak link and suffers from too many adversaries. I don't think Randall Park's character works at all and Walter Goggins character feels shoe horned in just to increase the running time.

And despite a lot of marketing, Pfeiffer's role is disappointingly small. There are also a few astonishingly clunky exposition scenes. So overall, a kinda fun movie but nowhere near as good as it could have been with these characters and just feels like it is going through the motions.

flazio

Compared to the other films and TV series we've got recently, this did seem a bit.... juvenile.
But I don't actually mean that as a complaint. I actually enjoyed it and didn't feel the time going.
One of my favourite characters is actually the daughter Cassie (peanut) and if I had a daughter or son around that age, I'd be comfortable letting them watch that movie with me. You need movies like that sometimes.

PTH2009

Enjoyed it, very fast paced and the special effects were amazing. Lots of humour and easy storyline too follow. The Russian guy was pretty stereotypical but it's only a comic relief character

The first post credit scene is pretty good

Mr E

Enjoyed it too... good fun, good special effects and good story. Walton Goggins was a bit wasted though.

Hannah John-Kamen is doing well for herself this year, isn't she?

Goodshape

Definitely one you could do without, imo.

Evangeline Lilly was a highlight – very good as The Wasp, but there was zero chemistry between any of the leads. Paul Rudd seemed a little disconnected throughout, although maybe that's just his 'style', and Michael Douglas really didn't seem to be there at all, with lines delivered as though he had just read them for the first time.

Some of the set pieces were fun but didn't make up for lack of engagement elsewhere. And as an "episode" of the MCU, it's a filler / bottle-episode for sure.

Sabre0001

I liked it initially...but yeah, it's fine. Some humour but not really roll on the floor stuff, visually impressive, some interesting fight and powers choreography and the Ghost character is very cool. Trailer saturation definitely took away from it for me, I think.

Tough to follow Infinity War. Doesn't really answer why Ant Man didn't make an appearance (and seemingly unaware of what was happening) - he was easily broken out, but never caught any news in relation to events happening around the world.

The post-credit

snap was interesting, but also doesn't act as an explanation because it shows the timeline is close (but also pre-snap) and therefore Ant-Man should have known that something was going on. Though we should get something in trying to get him back out - presumably linked to Captain Marvel.

Penn

Sabre0001 wrote: »

Tough to follow Infinity War. Doesn't really answer why Ant Man didn't make an appearance (and seemingly unaware of what was happening) - he was easily broken out, but never caught any news in relation to events happening around the world.

The post-credit

snap was interesting, but also doesn't act as an explanation because it shows the timeline is close (but also pre-snap) and therefore Ant-Man should have known that something was going on. Though we should get something in trying to get him back out - presumably linked to Captain Marvel.

Ant-Man & The Wasp is set before Infinity War, likely by a few weeks or months

(given that they then had time between the end of the movie and the post-credits scene to build a new Quantum Tunnel and be able to fit it in the back of the van). Only the post-credits scene occurs at the same time as the events of Infinity War. IW happens over a pretty short period of time too, maybe two days at most. But aside from the attack on New York which happened and was over pretty quickly, no-one called Scott in to help or told him what was going on.

nix

Yeah plus Scott is likely very paranoid about working with the avengers again, as it would mean life imprisonment and bye bye daughter if hes caught. Plus from the outside looking in to the Avengers/Thanos dilemma, all that would have been on the news, would have been a ship attacking NY and then leaving. The majority of the IW movie is set in another galaxy and Wakanda, so the rest of the world has no clue whats going on :pac:

Outlaw Pete

Painful stuff. Couldn't wait for it to end.

The bones of the story was interesting enough but wasn't fleshed out enough to the degree where you'd be engaged in it let alone engrossed.

3/10.

Cupatae

Mr E wrote: »

Couldn't find a thread on this... First trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OntVY2igLw

Seen it! very good movie just a really fun movie to chill out and watch... way better than deadpool 2 which i thought was complete muck!

GavRedKing

I was pleasantly surprised by the first Ant Man movie but wasnt holding out much hope for this one, given we had a month to wait to see it in Europe, most of the big stuff had been spoiled for me, mainly the mid credit scene.

I have to say, the weeks of trailers before our "official" release really killed the film for me and a lot of the good scenes had already been seen.

I like Langs character and we seen more of the human side of a superhero but I think the movie was Marvels weakest so far in the MCU, apart form the mid credit scene, there is nothing that hasnt been seen before with Ant Man or the Wasp, Ghost was a cool character but herself and Foster were pretty weak and inconsequential in the grand scheme of things and arms dealer and his thugs were near pointless other than offering some light comic relief.

It was always going to be on a hiding to nothing directly following IW and I was willing to give it a pass and lower expectations but I didnt really enjoy that much.

eviltimeban

Enjoyed it a lot, was a fun, breezy, light affair. Great action sequences and special FX for the most part, though for some reason I found the quantum realm a little underwhelming.

Paul Rudd was good, a few nods to his I Love You Man and This is 40 type characters

(when he's hanging out in his house for the last two days - he might as well have been "slappin' the bass mon")

.

Evangeline Lilly was grand, as was Ghost and Pena was really good. Douglas was phoning it in; not sure if he was doing it on purpose but a lot of his dialogue was slurred. I wonder was that a result of his cancer?

nix

GavRedKing wrote: »

I have to say, the weeks of trailers before our "official" release really killed the film for me and a lot of the good scenes had already been seen.

Yeah I've started to not watch trailers for movies now, well i try my best, some movies i might give in.. But this movie i looked away when ever a trailer for it appeared. The only familiar scene in the movie for me was the giant

hello kitty pez tumbling through traffic

. Everything else was fresh and it paid off, i enjoyed it from start to finish.

#dontwatchtrailers #makeourtrailersvagueagain

woodchuck

I really enjoyed it! The story was pretty basic, but I thought it very funny and a leave your brain at the door kind of movie.

It's very hard to follow infinity wars!! But if you're a big fan of the avengers, you need to watch the mid-credits scene.

Johner

Thought it was great, really enjoyable. Good fun like the first.

AMKC

Mr E wrote: »

Enjoyed it too... good fun, good special effects and good story. Walton Goggins was a bit wasted though.

Hannah John-Kamen is doing well for herself this year, isn't she?

Johner wrote: »

Thought it was great, really enjoyable. Good fun like the first.

I agree. Loved the first movie. Don't get all the dislike for it.

Seen it this evening. Really enjoyed it. Thought it was very funny. There was one scene in the middle of it that I did not like and thought was terrible but otherwise it's a great movie. 9 out of 10 from me

Frank O. Pinion

I thought the movie itself was fine, nothing completely terrible, usual Marvel stuff. However, what exactly was the purpose of this $200million, barely profitable movie? Released after Infinity War, but set before it, why? I've read the term "palate cleanser", but after the dramatic IW, I just thought "mediocre". And Evangeline Lilly is a terrible actress. What has she done the past decade besides Marvel? Real Steel and the Hobbit movies. She sucks.

Besides the mid-credits scene, this and IW could have easily switched released dates. Actually, Ant-Man and The Wasp could have been released anywhere the past two years, since Civil War, and been fine, but 2/3 months after IW, and it felt so...average. Are we going to get a timeline-screwed "palate cleanser" movie after every huge Avengers movie? Spider-Man: Far From Home, Peter Parker's European Vacation Palate Cleanser, sounds kinky.

As for the mid-credits scene,

they could have just shown up to Ant-Man stuck in the quantum realm, and then shown the others disintegrate in an IW credits scene

, and still have this movie released before IW.

eviltimeban

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

what exactly was the purpose

They just wanted to tell a story: a story about an ant man.

Lithium93_

Well if you paid attention during Infinity War, you'd have know why this was set before the events of said movie, as it explained where Scott and Clint were and why, but the mid credits brought it up to post Thanos snapping his fingers.

As for "barely profitable movie", it's racked up so far to date world wide $429,164,918, and given it's going to be in cinemas a good while yet, it'll rake in more for Disney/Marvel.

Sure it won't bring home what Infinity War brought in, but not every film they make will.

As to why it wasn't released anywhere since Civil War, I'd imagine Kevin Feige has this all laid out as to when each movie would be released, to line up with the bigger story they've been telling leading into and after Infinity War & Avengers 4. I mean you don't build a $17 Billion Dollar franchise without a crystal clear plan in place.

And the timeline screwed, the 8 years in Homecoming was actually an accident confirmed by The Russo's which was corrected in Infinity War when Tony said to Strange that "Thanos has been in my head for 6 years"